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Has anyone tried this yet?  I ordered it and will hopefully get it on Tuesday.  I was sure I read that it was good for all blood types.  After reviewing the info again I see it has Cod Liver Oil in the oil combo and am wondering now if I should be taking it since Cod Liver Oil is an avoid in my Swami.  Or does the benefits of the whole combo outweigh the avoid?

Also, does anyone know anything about the Black Cumin Oil?  Guess I should have figured this all out before I ordered it, aye.

One more thing, I've been taking the Trehalose Complex and it's recommended to be taken with a citrus juice.(I use lemon)  Now the powdered portion of this Membrosia Combo has Trehalose in it and it says to take it with any beneficial juice.  Would it still be benefited more with a citrus one?




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I continue to prepare my membrosia according to the old recipe by Dr. D + uridine, and now I add walnut oil to the flax seed oil, both SWAMI diamonds. I intend to add also black cumin oil, which is not rated in SWAMI.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-pres/m-1376860877/s-0/


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I agree, contact customer service but to get the go-ahead I emailed the clinic because DH and I are patients and both of us were given membrosia cocktails that don't contain any of the oils in this new complex.  But we were both told we could absolutely switch to the combo and both of us are doing very well on it.

It's too soon to give a testimony because we had been using a singular oil membrosia cocktail for a year prior to this change so the results will be evident when we go back to the clinic in Feb to get another bioimpedence test.  The difference between using just one oil vs this combined ratio of oils makes me very excited to look forward to my testing again. I would like to see an improved
phase angle. (you might have to do some research on bioimpedence testing to understand
what I'm talking about or listen to the link below of Dr. D's lecture in London)

This test will show if our cells contain the proper amount of fluid inside vs outside.  Old, sick people have too much fluid outside of their cells because the cell membrane is so stiff and hard, nutrients can't get in and toxins can't flow out.

For us, it's been 5 days that we're on it. We rotate pineapple juice, grapefruit and grape juice.
2 tsp of the powder and 1 1/2 tsp of the oil.  I have to say I feel good....DH feels good but are
we profoundly noticing a difference since we began this protocol?...difficult to quantify just yet.

Neither of us take trehalose complex independently of this new protocol.  There is a little bit
of trehalose in the powder of this combo.

So here's something I quickly found about black cumin seed oil

http://www.naturalnews.com/038644_black_cumin_oil_immune_system_nk_cells.html

As I understand it, these particular oils in this new formula are in perfect balance to give you the proper omega 3, 6 and 9 ratio.  So that's the major improvement over using your own oils and
using just one instead of many.

This is rather a guess on my part but although cod liver oil taken individually might tip your balance of omega 3 oils too far in one direction, I'm wondering if combined in this perfect balance does a little bit of CLO give you greater benefits.  This combo is designed for everyone and is the new gold standard for achieving cell membrane flexibility.  As we age, the membrane gets stiff and hard so softening would be one main goal of this new formula.

I've listened to both parts of this lecture by Dr. D and it's amazingly interesting.
He explains about the membrane fluidizer in the second half of his lecture and the test that
measures it's level of success.  If you get a chance, listen to it.

http://www.4yourtype.com/NEWSLETTER_10_10.asp#Martha


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Thanks for your input, Chloe.  And your direction, Lola and Yaeli.



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Thank you so much Chole for elaborating on this and opening my eyes.

It seems that when we use red grapefruit juice we can enjoy both worlds, the citrus for the trehalose and the lycopene in the fruit.


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I want to share some feedback after taking the new Membrosia complex for a little over a week.  

First is that my muscles feel better and have greater ability to stretch and allow me to exercise without feeling achy afterwards.  Second is improved mood.  Well we had gloomy rainy weather last week but still, I noticed a difference today after a very good night's sleep.  Not sure what the difference really is between the variety of oils in the new mixture which contains far less lecithin than I had been taking and less overall oil...plus the addition of other ingredients in the powder, like ribose, trehalose, glutamine.....things I'd never taken before.....but I do feel different. And
a good kind of different.  Waiting to hear what DH experiences....He hasn't said he notices anything yet, but then of course, he has no knowledge of why he's taking this formula in the first
place, except to say it will improve his phase angle (that much he understands)  

Hoping this thread keeps active so we can read how people are experiencing this formula.

Anyone else taking it?   http://www.4yourtype.com/departments.asp?dept=221


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I am giving it a try to the home-made  formula (trying to stretch the $$$$).  After a month or so with it, I may order the combo and then compare and post.  I do take my TC with lemon every morning,( before the flax oil, lecithin and juice drink I just started this week).  TC I have been taking for a while and I do appreciate how alert and balanced in many ways it makes me feel




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If you forget to take the combo (home-made or bought) early morning ... is it OK to take it before lunch instead?  still away from food a couple of hours? ...




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Quoted from Cristina
If you forget to take the combo (home-made or bought) early morning ... is it OK to take it before lunch instead?  still away from food a couple of hours? ...


Hopefully, you will get a definitive answer from someone more well informed than I am.....but it would seem Logical that taking it on an empty stomach is the key......and quite a few hours without food in your body might be second best rather than not taking it at all.  I guess trying not to forget is key.   Maybe leave yourself a little note somewhere in the kitchen until your mind gets used to making this a daily routine.


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I think I may just take it straight after the citrus TC mixture .. it is waiting the 30 minutes after that messes me up ... Today I had the Polyflora with the TC lemon drink and intended to have the oil mixture 30m later ... but started cooking breakky, served it and I already had a few mouthfuls of my turkey dish, when I remember!!! ... New routines, changing habits ... I am not a speedy coach sometimes ... but sure I get there ...   Note on top of stove for tomorrow morning ... good advise Chloe ...




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I think I may just take it straight after the citrus TC mixture .. it is waiting the 30 minutes after that messes me up ... Today I had the Polyflora with the TC lemon drink and intended to have the oil mixture 30m later ... but started cooking breakky, served it and I already had a few mouthfuls of my turkey dish, when I remember!!! ... New routines, changing habits ... I am not a speedy coach sometimes ... but sure I get there ...   Note on top of stove for tomorrow morning ... good advise Chloe ...



Cristina, the new Membrane combo instructions says you need to wait 15 minutes before eating but the original instructions for the homemade membrane fluidizer said to wait 30 minutes.   That's the time it takes me to spray myself with magnesium oil (which BTW....lowers blood pressure if you saturate yourself liberally every day as it's absorbed transdermally and builds up faster in your blood than if you consumed the same amount orally...Many people have high B/P and extra mag seems helpful.  I digress.... so while I've sprayed myself, I have to wait at least 30 minutes before showering it off. I start my breakfast, go make my bed and straighten up the house a bit....come back to the kitchen, eat, then shower off my magnesium and I've managed to make good use of
30 minutes.

I read your post on the FS thread about high B/P but while I'm talking about it, will answer here.

Something to read, although sorry for hijacking this thread.  Be glad to discuss mag issues with
you if you can find the thread on magnesium oil.  It's fascinating info.
http://joannebrophy.com/assessments/magnesium.htm

And you might find this interesting about B/P
http://summaries.cochrane.org/.....hg-is-not-beneficial


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OK, thanks for the links, but believe me when I said I devoured everything BP related here and over the net during this 'crisis'.  

When I first read that link on lower BP no lowering heart attacks, etc, I understood it to be to force it down with drugs!!!  Not doing it naturally as it is our aim here ...   We are keeping an eye on it and it seems that placing himself in the path of eating right for his type has settled the bp curve.  What I mean is, stress of not eating right and not taking breaks during the day to give the body that deep relaxation state we As crave is what may have spike his BP.  

I read the magnerium oil discussions here too, but we decided that although it will  work fine for me, if I ever need it, it will not work for hubby.  He could not see himself of going through that routine of spraying it on himself, waiting and showering it off.  Magnesium powder and empson salt baths worked fine for him, as stated in the protocols ...

The membrane combo, OK, I give it a miss today and I make sure I start it tomorrow ... I may reverse it and use it as first thing in the morning, follow by TC lemon and polyflora 30 minutes later ... that should work for me then ... Thanks for your prompt feedback Chloe ... You are a trooper, as usual ...




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I hope I understand this correctly, one important clarification through Membrosia Complex is, that it is allowed to take Trehalose with cranberry juice....

The issue was discussed at length in the thread "Yes, Trehalose Complex is definitely Wow", following the instruction to take TC away from quercetin.
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-pres/m-1328006355/s-0/

People were looking for quercetin content of foods and made conjectures, and one major item discussed was cranberry juice, a SWAMI diamond for many incl yt, which is rich in quercetin. Now it seems that the doubts regarding taking the TC in cranberry juice have faded away. Again, I hope I am not wrong.


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The main confusion I'm having over this new complex formula is this.  The homemade membrosia
cocktail had one rule....mix the flax oil with lecithin and add a juice.  Any juice.  Drink, then wait 30 minutes before eating anything with fat.  The new and improved Membrosia complex says only to wait 15 minutes before eating a meal with fat.

However, this new Membrosia complex contains trehalose and it contains uridine.  Less uridine
than I was taking with the Membrosia cocktail I made myself.

SO, although DH and I weren't asked to take a separate dose of trehalose right now.....there IS some
trehalose in Membrosia Complex....not much BUT, some days I'm taking it with grapefruit juice,
other days, not.

And I take COQ10 with my breakfast plus I drink green tea.....but I only wait 15 minutes to do all
of this, YET, the original trehalose complex requires you wait an hour before taking either of these.

I don't know if I'm doing this wrong....or should save my green tea for later or my
COQ10 for lunch maybe....further away from my morning cocktail. Or use grapefruit juice every
day in this cocktail.

It's too many different rules that overlap for items that were part of one protocol but morph into
another.

Without any other rules stated for Membrosia Complex regarding  COQ10 or green tea, I guess I'm okay.  Not enough trehalose in this formula to be doing what the original trehalose complex/grapefruit juice was designed to do. (at least I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong)

Just recognize conflicting rules for two different protocols.

And Cristina....My DH who had higher B/P than his doctor found acceptable put
him on a calcium channel blocker.  He started with a low dose and then it was doubled when
it didn't appear to make his B/P go down enough.... His
B/P has come down in a year but it was due to his Warrior diet, Dr. D's formulas (prescribed
personally by the shift and Dr. D) and DH has now cut his B/P meds in half again, and his B/P
has remained stable. It's in a more normal zone...and a higher dose of meds didn't seem to
make much difference.... I agree, sometimes you have to just take the meds and then try to stabilize so you can wean off if this is your goal.  That was DH's goal with the clinic....but we realize, it was not his MDs goal....but he did agree with DH and so far, so good.  Hopefully in another few months when DH sees Dr. D again, he can get
off this drug.  It has side effects....muscle problems/confusion at times....and I know there are
solutions that are natural that will keep him in a safe zone, drug free.  Never would I want my husband to walk around with stress and dangerously high B/P but many supplements like Tranquility Base, magnesium, and others have managed to get his B/P down somewhat.  I don't know if Warriors are particularly vulnerable to issues like this or whether it's because he's a nonnie as well....I always had low B/P and suddenly, mine started going up. But I managed to have
totally normal B/P last week in my doctor's office just by using magnesium oil for the past
month and did alternate nostril breathing before my B/P was taken plus I do it regularly, a few times a day.

Most men aren't good at listening to their wives describe relaxing techniques....especially if
they're rather high stressed to begin with.  My Warrior husband seems to have a super short
attention span and needs to hear information in quick sound bites or he tunes out.

But still, making progress and I hope things go well for you and your DH too


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Re rules for Membrosia Combo: I don't know if the same rules apply here as those for Trehalose Complex.

I take the Trehalose Complex in lemon water first thing in the morning (together with Polyflora & Redoxa & Live Cell), and then I wait one hour before the green tea. I too take CoQ10 with breakfast.

I postpone the membrosia until later in the morning, before noon.... and I can't thank enough for these healing remedies.


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Oh gosh ... it will be nice if some higher authority could clarify these once and for all ...  Has anyone e-mail the office for clarification?

Chloe, are you describing my hubby there? ... I managed, no, he managed to keep himself out of meds via natural remedies:

1/- Celery and kale juice, one or two small shot glasses for him, half a glass for me because I find that it was lowering my bp too much, I tend to be on the lower side of bp (another similarity in our lives Chloe ), Tulsi, or holy basil tea, very good to help with relaxation, drinking it before meditation (it is in one of Dr D's protocols), Hawthorne tablets and ancient garlic ,  CQ10 and of course the magnasium baths or drink ...

We also ate mostly fish, salmon filets without any fat and lots of veggies (cooked and raw).  Every now and then I will juice celery, basil, kale, onion,garlic, ginger, beets and carrots (or any combo from them) and I will stir the pulp with the cooking veggies in the pan (rutagaba, parsnips or turnips) just before serving and pour the juice over the top of the dish, like a sauce.I tend to juice his veggies, cook the pulp for a few minutes.  We avoided wheat or grains in general, except for the ocassional slice of sourdough and couple of rice cakes or the odd quinoa and rice side dish.

Limited fruit intake to a green apple with the shot glasses before breakfast and the dry fruit with the night time meal when we have cereal and yogurt and nuts ...

Last meal about 6:00pm maybe 7:00 at the latest ...

His BP is very stable now.  We are pleased to have avoided any medication prone to side effects.  His doc was good in that aspect and gave him a month to get this sorted out naturally before he intervene ... we avoided that , very pleased ...

I am sure your hubby will get his bp sorted out and be out of meds soon enough ... I am not naive, and understand that we have to be vigilante ... keep using the home testing kits ... wonderful technology these days that allow us to monitor these things at home quite easily.  I think these monitor units should be a must in every household, no matter how fit or young you are ...

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I forgot to mention above that I always use a good dash of olive oil and flax seed oil on any dish I serve for dinner or lunch.  It is a must now in our menu plan ...

I reduced salt to the bare minimum for huybby, but use miso and the odd dash of tamari sauce and tempeh and tofu that do have some salt in them.

Also, coffee is a beneficial and although during the scary first  two weeks we cut it out, since Swami still gives it as a bene for him and he likes it so much, we re-introduce it, as a short black in the mornings and it has not adverse effect on his BP.  Trust Swami


Ps: what else did I forget to mention?  Turmeric, I use that in all my cooking ...





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Now that we've totally hijacked this membrosia combo thread, I'm just wondering if the new and
improved version of the Membrosia combo will impact my DH's B/P in a positive way.

Glad your DH has made such great strides in getting his B/P under control.  Most of us who have
ever had higher B/P in a doctor's office can develop white coat syndrome.....having anxiety just anticipating having B/P taken..And of course, being blood type A, doesn't take much to give us
anxiety!  

Here's what Dr. D has to say about the new complex....notice where it says it can create a more efficent metabolism....
i'm wondering if that impacts blood sugar/blood pressure...Probably, right?


Membrosia Complex and Membrosia Fluidizer

A healthy body begins with healthy cells. We are, after all, completely made of cells. Cells absorb the nutrients from the foods we eat through the cell membrane. A healthy membrane produces bi-lipids, which allows proteins and other nutrients to enter the cell much more efficiently. As we age or when we are sick, the membrane becomes brittle and less fluid. This interferes with the body's ability to keep water in the cell and compromises its ability to respond to hormones, absorb nutrients, and react to other influences from the outside world - resulting in weight gain, bloating, inflammation, and hormonal imbalance. In response to this phenomenon, Dr. D'Adamo created Membrosia Complex and Membrosia Fluidizer. Together, these products re-build the bi-lipid protein so that cells can operate efficiently and productively.

When used together in Dr. D'Adamo's exact proportions, this dual formula has shown consistent results in two years of patient trials. After taking the Membrosia Complex and Membrosia Fluidizer for several weeks, patients report a more efficient metabolism, a better and more controlled hormonal response, better nerve signaling, greater energy, fewer visible signs of aging (such as wrinkles and sagging skin), and an overall sense of happiness and well-being.

Directions: Mix two (2) level teaspoons of Membrosia Complex and one and a half (1.5) teaspoons of Membrosia Fluidizer in 4-6 oz. of a beneficial juice in the morning. Avoid consuming any fatty foods for fifteen minutes after taking Membrosia.


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Can we get away with this major hijacking for a bit longer?

Today I did my usual oil pulling, as soon as I wake up, then I have to wait half an hour before drinking anything, that is when I had the big mixture of straight lemon juice, 1tsp TC, 1 Tbsp flax oil and 1Tbsp lecithin.  About half an hour after that we had breakfast, then clean dishes and went for a relaxed walk with hubby and the dogs.  Now, we are ready for our cup of coffee ... Life is great!  I will report how this TC, flax, lecithin, juice thing is working out for me within the week.  Since hubby is in a rest week now, I decided not to use it on him yet, but, like you said, this combo will surely benefit bp and sugars by balancing them in our systems ...

Ps: Thanks once again for the extra info Chloe ...




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Can we get away with this major hijacking for a bit longer?

Today I did my usual oil pulling, as soon as I wake up, then I have to wait half an hour before drinking anything, that is when I had the big mixture of straight lemon juice, 1tsp TC, 1 Tbsp flax oil and 1Tbsp lecithin.  About half an hour after that we had breakfast, then clean dishes and went for a relaxed walk with hubby and the dogs.  Now, we are ready for our cup of coffee ... Life is great!  I will report how this TC, flax, lecithin, juice thing is working out for me within the week.  Since hubby is in a rest week now, I decided not to use it on him yet, but, like you said, this combo will surely benefit bp and sugars by balancing them in our systems ...

Ps: Thanks once again for the extra info Chloe ...


You're welcome....So far, nobody is getting upset with us for hijacking this thread........so of course, let's continue...

I can't wait until we go back to the clinic for another bioimpedence test (can you have this test
done in Australia?)  The fact that Dr. D has had such great success with this particular combination of oils and powders makes me anxious to find out if DH and I have an improved phase angle.

.....still on topic....

Keep updating your progress and I will too!





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Membrosia Combo contains soy lecithin, which is a SWAMI black dor for me.

The computerized (BIA?   ) diagnosis that I underwent recently indicates that I have a certain sensitivity to egg yolk.... no wonder! I consume too many eggs. It didn't indicate any sensitivity to soy, which I haven't been touching for the last 7 and 2/3 years.

I know it is entirely up to me. On the face of it, soy lecithin may be safe for me right now, but I think that as I intend to make membrosia every morning, which means 1 tablespoon of lecithin daily, this seems beyond moderate quantity and breaching the black dot agreement. So in the meantime, instead of switching to soy lecithin, which is easily available, I intend to continue and order egg yolk lecithin capsules from Swanson. {deep sigh}


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...Membrosia Combo contains soy lecithin, which is a SWAMI black dor for me.

...On the face of it, soy lecithin may be safe for me right now, but I think that as I intend to make membrosia every morning, which means 1 tablespoon of lecithin daily, this seems beyond moderate quantity and breaching the black dot agreement. So in the meantime, instead of switching to soy lecithin, which is easily available, I intend to continue and order egg yolk lecithin capsules from Swanson. {deep sigh}


Didn't we discuss the suitability of soy lecithin for all Genotypes in an earlier thread? I seem to recall that Andrea did the research and determined the soy lectins and other nasties were completely washed out in processing.

Given that Swami contrdicts soy lecithin's safety, I think an administrator shoulld weigh in on this subject. We need to trust our Swami reports.



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Just got off the phone with customer service asking about my original question that started this thread.  

The Membrosia Combo has 2 Avoids for me on my Swami, soy lecithin and cod liver oil.  But I was told that the  positive benefits of the Membrosia Combo out weigh the avoids.  Not that I can take those things by themselves, but that in this combination they are okay.  Glad to hear that since I had already purchased it.



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Just got off the phone with customer service asking about my original question that started this thread.  

The Membrosia Combo has 2 Avoids for me on my Swami, soy lecithin and cod liver oil.  But I was told that the  positive benefits of the Membrosia Combo out weigh the avoids.  Not that I can take those things by themselves, but that in this combination they are okay.  Glad to hear that since I had already purchased it.


Thanks for letting us know...I sort of guessed this would be the explanation....



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