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san j
Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 1:28am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I remember learning that SWAMI doesn't factor climate into its recommendations.
Both macrobiotics and Ayurveda considered climate of major importance, and the ingredient selection changed with both seasons and locations.

I remember a lecture in which the Tomato was being discussed, this fruit being virtually never eaten by macros. But the teacher, Japanese, was recounting of a lecture tour that had sent him to Arizona in the summertime, and he said he found the tomato a "medicinal" food item there during the hottest times. He was actually recommending it to some questioners there for "balancing" the intense heat.

To an extent, SWAMI and D'Adamo's individual health challenge books address the alteration of the "regular" diet to deal with certain diseases, but not with climate or change of season in one given location.
Wonder if that'll ever happen.


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Quoted from san j


To an extent, SWAMI and D'Adamo's individual health challenge books address the alteration of the "regular" diet to deal with certain diseases, but not with climate or change of season in one given location.
Wonder if that'll ever happen.


I very much doubt it actually. The benefits of introducing this sort material would be somewhat marginal and only serve to intrude on the presentation of what many people seem to find a complicated diet.

If you live in a climate than tends to seasonal extremes you are going to make the adjustments on your own anyway. I have found that threads posted on this board along such lines have fallen on deaf ears so what is the public going to think?

Another obstacle is that thinking about seasonal or climactic foods is generally Oriental philosophy based and by no means familiar to the general public.





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I mainly eat seasonal produce- with the exception of a few staples that are available year-round (such as carrots, onions, broccoli,spinach and green beans.) What comes in my CSA box varies from week to week.

In the winter I eat more cooked veggies; in the summer, more salads. I supplement the staples with whatever seasonal produce is available. Sometimes that includes "black dots" or even "avoids" (in small amounts) from the CSA box. Everything in that box is grown about 50 miles from my home; it's all appropriate for both the climate and the season I'm living in. I can't say the same for the frozen veggies at Costco.

So, my SWAMI list stays the same, but the items I choose from it vary seasonally. And there are some foods that SWAMI deems "beneficial" for me that don't grow locally and are never available at a reasonable price; I don't eat those at all, or only eat them as a very special treat.


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Dr. D can't do everything, but the guidelines he gives can allow us to adapt to our climates.
I thrive better in a warmer, drier climate, but I live in a colder, wetter one. So I am sure I would eat differently & be healthier if I lived in California, for example.
But here I am in the Windy City & must do what I can. Even Dr. D is of a 'warmer' nationality, but live in Connecticut. What can he do? We all just adapt & do the best we can more or less!

But I do agreee that climate affects us.  I went to a school in West Va. for 3 school years. On the internet, someone was asking about attending that school. I was honest & said that it is  a rainy gloomy area. I don't remember if I suggested she not attend if bothered by that or just said it affected me, but I bet the people at the school didn't appreciate my comment.
It was a small school & I am sure my IQ & abilities were above the average student, but I saw that I was near the bottom of my class in grades. Extra sunlight & exercise would have helped.

So, I say a resounding YES that climate is important, but we gotta figure it out!


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In one of my wonderful Japanese cookbooks the author always mentions the season in which the food is eaten.  Much of Japan has extremely cold winters and the winter recipes concentrate on hot broth based meals.  The summer foods are things like cold noodles, and - surprise - curry stew.  Guess that shouldn't be a surprise, though, because the people in very hot climates in other countries eat a lot of very spicy foods.  

And, here in America, most people I know associate hot soup with cold weather and salad meals with summer.  So we are all not so different after all, are we?

I think most people will self select their foods by season.    


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I very much doubt it actually. The benefits of introducing this sort material would be somewhat marginal and only serve to intrude on the presentation of what many people seem to find a complicated diet.

If you live in a climate than tends to seasonal extremes you are going to make the adjustments on your own anyway. I have found that threads posted on this board along such lines have fallen on deaf ears so what is the public going to think?

Another obstacle is that thinking about seasonal or climactic foods is generally Oriental philosophy based and by no means familiar to the general public.


We aren't very seasonal anymore now that we can import foods through the Panama Canal coming from Chile so that we have grapes and such in the winter And because we have AC units and heat pumps going all the time (unlike our ancestors) as well as fancy climate controlled cars and video games to distract us from "real life" outdoors until we get older and find out WE have changed and do not tolerate our climate very well! Being "closer to the earth" isn't a hippie or farmer thing; it should be a very natural thing. Just like being able to know it's time to sleep when the sun is going down.

People in Scranton PA love their cabbage rolls and Ukrainian food because of the intense winters there. And yes, they don't take kindly to being told flat out that they and their climate are "dreary."   they just tolerate it or switch the subject!


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I remember John ( resting) writing a lot about seasonal food.

I live in a climate where the raw vegan/ fruitian diet would really not work.

I tend to adjust my food natural after the seasons- In late summer/ autumn I rave fruits a and eat a lot of them even though I eat very little fruit the rest of the year.
In winter time I prefer hot food, lots of root veggies, butter and meat
Springtime I crave eggs, and raw green veggies
I summertime I tend to eat less meat and more cheese, yoghurt and fishbased food.

As an archeologist I find it interesting that it is pretty much the same pattern my forefathers had even in the Stone age.


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We have 2 seasons here on the High Desert; summer and winter.
It usually rains and snows a little from December to February. We always have at least one snow day and a few rainy days, but then it "moves on" and the sun returns! With 355 days of sun per year and summer weather from March through November I am outside much of the time. The worst thing here is the constant wind. We all grumble about it yet are glad it keeps us smog free!

Regardless of the season, my DH (O hunter) and I want our raw salad greens daily! I make soups year round but this summer was such a scorcher that we haven't had any since June. We grill our meat/fish/poultry outside year round. I will begin some baking by mid October if it is cooler. It is still in the 80's during the day and last night was the first bit of coolness in the air!

Now, Chloe lives in New York and said she has to remind herself to drink water...I need to also...and we live in totally different climates. I expect to be guzzling liquids as it is so dry here but really have to "make" myself stay hydrated!
  
So, we eat our produce by the season...health food stores or Farmers markets..but everything else pretty much year round.    


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