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slk7387
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If I'm trying to lose a few pounds ( 13-18 ) then should I avoid compliant muffins in the morning? I've been making almond/rice flour pumpkin chocolate chip muffins or blueberry muffins. Are morning smoothies a bad idea as well?

What kind of weight loss can someone expect to see on average? I lost about 6 pounds in two weeks - most of it seemed to come off the first week. I've been measuring too, nothing exciting to report there.

I pretty much eat one chocolate thing per day - 88% cocoa. I take magnesium (400mg/day) but I still love/crave sweets.... I suppose I feel that I need chocolate if I can't have cheese.

Also, my ratio seems to be a higher fat percentage overall. I was under the impression my protein should be the highest.


Husband = O which = easier meal planning!!!

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Even we A people need significant amounts of protein for breakfast, but for O's a high protein (read that as MEAT) breakfast is essential.  Muffins of any type "ain't gonna cut it" for you.  What you are doing with the muffins is eating dessert/snacks for breakfast.

You asked about smoothies for breakfast.  Our A-food morning BIG smoothies contain extra firm organic tofu, high protein Eden brand organic soy milk, either chia seeds or hemp powder, a green veggie (most often spinach) and about 2 1/2 cups of frozen fruit:  Total protein around 25 grams on average. Although O's dont need the tofu and soy milk like A's do because you have many animal protein sources, I think an occasional smoothie using what we do would be OK for you.    

Normal healthy weight loss is generally considered to be 1 or maybe 2 pounds per week.  If you lose faster than that in a week it is often due to water retention problems being corrected.  

And personally - I think I would go totally bonkers if I couldn't have my low sugar, high cocoa count chocolate fix each day.  Supposedly if you are getting enough magnesium you don't crave the chocolate.  Wellllllllll........perhaps that is true.......?????  


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Oh so you wish to drop some weight?  Yes I do too.

It is all dependent on how long you are on this diet?  What did you eat in the last few years?  If you have been compliant in Beneficials or better for years as I have, then more dramatic measures need to be undertaken.  ***  

However if you are new and come from a place of eating potatoes, pasta, bread and dairy, then coming to this 'diet' will give you a much greater chance at dropping the weight you wish to lose, in less than 2 month.  Just keep on walking for on hour a day!

The word ' diet' her is not used in relationship to how much we lost, abut rather how Much we feel Better!  Here we are about health first and foremost. We 'diet' to fix what used to hurt and what used to make us miserable. Being 26 - maybe nothing ever hurt you. or nothing ever gave you feelings of low self esteem, or sleep problems or female problems...   I could go on... You see 'here' most came to the conclusion about 'living' our life healthier was 'the most important' way of life.

For me the first time I heard of BTD was after I had pneumonia, after having been so run down, I nearly checked out for good.  I had sleep issues, nerve pain issues, digestion issues, pain everywhere, and numerous Doctors' labels. Yet, when I read what I could do by adopting this way of life, I KNEW that I would shed all those labels 'just' by eating Right!!! “Weight’ by comparison did not matter ... life and living mattered ... and I never looked back. (sometime I complain out loud for junk food but only some time… Most of the time I feel proud and happy to be O !)  

Did I answer your question? No. but I will.  ***  Yes you will have to eat ALL together Beneficial or Super / Diamond Beneficials to give your body the means to let go of pounds, at the beginning it's easy!.. Stick to it and many good things will happen along the way.  Looking better, feeling better, and enjoying what you are doing morning noon and night!

For instance, you might not be hungry any more, if you eat enough Oil.  I personally need two spoons of oil in place of snacks... seems gross, but not so, I just swallow and wash down with water.  Yes us O's can have more Oil, it took me two month doing that, to get rid of constipation... It may not be your issue, so maybe you might do it to reduce hunger and cravings issues.  

In tern, I prefer on egg for breakfast, add some veggies and I am happy. Lunch at least meat on my plate first, then some veggies or a salad. In the early afternoon I have walnuts or some pineapple and in my case another spoon of extra light olive Oil by about 4pm to make certain that I am never hungry before cooking!  

Hunger is my enemy, I lose all sense of control and I can never go shopping when I am not stuffed.  

When I do go shopping I can buy some pineapple, fresh, in chunks or in slices.  If I am hungry then chocolate is what I go for first. 'help' ... but I learned to eat 90% Yak, but ok I do wish to drop the weight, so a little goes a long way!  If I am hungry I also go for the salami slices and I eat them while shopping... not very polite yet if I did not, then it would be sweets and fruit that would go in the basket.  Fruit is Ok, but as I got older I can have less rather than more, so I have to be careful not to gorge on Bananas on the way home. The perfect finger food!  

As for the 'outside' isles, I just don't even go there.  I eat the gravy off a spoon, the jelly the same way. I make the meat in hurry and enough of it twice a day, with all sort of steamed veggies - all in no time at all! In that way I do better at losing or maintaining the lost weight.  IF I stray form the above, on comes the weight.  So you see, other then when I was your hormonal age, I struggled with weight all my adult life, BUT At The Very Least, on BTD I Can Eat Right until I am Full. - never to be hungry again and keeping the cravings away.  

See what makes sense to you reading this, and make sense out of what you are doing and then you will learn soon enough what is good for you and what is not .. all you have to do is 'listen' to your body!  It will tell you in a hurry.  All the best and much success and welcome.  Nice to see a newbie interested in weight loss.  Come along with me -in some other threads- and together we will drop those pounds... Peppermint Twist lost way more then a 20 pounds. She worked on it for a while, and she did it with much concentration, fun and laughter.  Look for her here or maybe on face book. Seems some spend more time there as of late.     
  


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What's in those breakfast muffins? I bake muffins with smushed fruit, eggs, and almond meal; no added sugars and no grains. If you're baking muffins with rice flour, those might not be the best choice for breakfast. When I make smoothies, I use about 1 cup of frozen spinach, 1/4 cup fruit, some egg white protein and a spoonful of almond butter. What do you use in your smoothies?

My own personal experience is that I'm best off avoiding grains in the mornings, and having one serving of grains later in the day. Usually that's with dinner, but sometimes I'll have a rice cake as a mid-afternoon snack instead. However, others have done well eating their one portion of grains in the morning and then that's it for grains for the day. You need to experiment and see what works best for you.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Pumpkin Chocolate chip muffins:

Ingredients:

2 large eggs
2/3 cup pumpkin puree
1/3 cup raw local honey
1/4 cup olive oil
2 tsp vanilla
1 1/2 cups almond flour
1 cup rice flour
1/2 tsp baking soda
1/4 tsp salt
2 tsp pumpkin spice
Optional: add 1/4 cup Enjoy Life Chocolate Chips


I also did another version from the recipe link for the butternut squash pumpkin muffins - they were great too and only used almond flour.

My husband is the one who cooks our breakfast (I cook lunches and dinners) so I literally have to tell him what to make or plan ahead for us... he's not so creative in the kitchen with our new diet... ! Before it was always a meat and eggs or some type of scramble. We tried beef bacon but it wasn't that great and I figured the nitrates weren't compliant. I think I'm going to try to make beef Goetta because it is my understanding that oats are okay for O's... granted I have no idea if I am a non-sec or sec....

Today I had a smoothie with red raspberries, pineapple, blueberries, applesauce, and prune juice. I need to purchase the O protein mix and I totally forgot to put spinach into the smoothie this morning...

Before my doctor put me on this diet I had already cut most dairy and potatoes out of my diet. I was still playing with wheat because I never noticed a negative effect on my body. I've never been a big corn eater but lately I've noticed how much it is in some of the foods I used to eat - even in the form of HFCS. I still am shocked that there is more WHEAT in soysauce than soy... how is that legal? Luckily I found a place that sells GF soy sauce.

I'm not only on the diet to lose a few pounds, but also to figure out a healthy lifestyle that works for me.


Husband = O which = easier meal planning!!!
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Awesome that your doctor recommended it!  I don't think your muffins sound too bad but I would only eat them for breakfast once or twice a week...Try eggs scrambled in ghee (clarified butter) and sprinkle some nutritional yeast on top.  I have that often with  a little almond butter and a Tbsp. of fruit spread.  Lots of Os eat leftovers from dinner the night before - meat and veggies.  
I also make smoothies with almond butter, unsweetened cocoa, chia seeds for protein and to thicken up the smoothie to almost a pudding consistency, banana, pineapple, blueberries or whatever fruit I had around.  
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I personally would make those muffins with less honey- nobody needs to start the day with so much sweetener. Actually, I'd omit the vanilla and use molasses or agave in place of the honey to make them O nonnie compliant, but I don't think you need to worry about that right now. It's fine to start with the secretor plan.

I buy liquid egg whites (the kind with no additives; just egg whites) and use that as the protein in my smoothies. I can get it at Costco or any grocery store. I don't do well on a lot of fruit, so I only use 1/4 cup of fruit and 1 cup of spinach (I didn't really measure how much egg white I used- maybe half a cup? Plus a spoonful of almond butter) but many people can handle far more sugar than I can. My daughters do fine on smoothies full of fruit and with no greens, but always with some kind of protein in there as well (egg whites, or yogurt even though it's an avoid- they still do better having "avoid protein" than "no protein" for a meal.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from Jane
...Try eggs scrambled in ghee (clarified butter) and sprinkle some nutritional yeast on top.  I have that often with  a little almond butter and a Tbsp. of fruit spread.    


Hi, I hope you don't me asking but I've read a lot of posts where people say 'I have that with a little almond butter" or something similar.  Do you mean you mix it in. or eat it afterwards off of a spoon.  Sorry if I sound dumb but over here we would tend to eat nut butters on bread or rice cakes etc, so I have been wondering    

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I buy liquid egg whites (the kind with no additives; just egg whites) and use that as the protein in my smoothies.


You can put raw egg whites in a smoothie? Does that taste okay?? (obviously or you wouldn't drink it I'm hoping... )


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I wouldn't just use regular raw egg whites. I have tried smoothies with whole raw eggs (actually, it was homemade egg nog) and it just didn't sit right with me. The ones sold in "mini milk cartons" in the dairy aisle are pasteurized, so they're not really "raw" anymore, and are fine to consume without cooking.

I don't think the egg adds any flavor at all, just protein. It tastes exactly the same to me if I use water in place of the egg whites, but it's not as filling.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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When I use nut butter in my smoothies I generally just add the nut butter to the fruit/veg/protein powder and blend together.  I like the taste and it makes the texture feel richer, more like it has dairy in it when it doesn't.  

Also, on the subject of smoothies - it is very easy to absolutely load them with sugar via high GI fruit, fruit juice etc.  So please bear in mind that just because you blend it all together and liquify normal portion and frequency values still apply.  As I recall in the LR book that's three portions of beneficial fruit per day for Os.  So if you put them all in your smoothie that's it for the day.  And yes, add protein to balance all that fruit sugar and perhaps use them as vehicle for things like spinach, which I just cannot train myself to like but will eat as part of a smoothie
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I just put a spoonful or two of almond butter on the plate with the eggs.  When I make the smoothies, it get mixed in.  I buy the almond butter that you grind yourself in the store - expensive ($6.99/lb) but so delicious!
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Go through the New Letters. There was an recipe of smoothies, for each blood type   Ok, found  it. It's in this on July of 1012





http://www.4yourtype.com/2012_newsletter_v9n07.asp


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Newbie , which is more helpful knowing your secretor or getting the swani program?
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Quoted from mystery95
Newbie , which is more helpful knowing your secretor or getting the swani program?


"It depends".

Some people even do fine on the BTD without knowledge of their secretor status.

You can do either first and then do the other later. Most people would do okay with SWAMI first in my opinion, but there are always exceptions. If you are a nonnie it may be better to know earlier.
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Newbie, which is more helpful knowing your secretor or getting the swani program?

I would suggest that SWAMI would be best to start with...  You can run SWAMI both ways to see how much difference there is and make the decision how important Secretor status is on its...


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Skimming through the replies, I trust that others covered all the usual food-related recommendations.

What sleep are you getting, quality and quantity?  If I stay up late and get up early, I tend to gain weight.  (Check out the book "Lights Out....")  Try getting to bed 30 to 60 minutes earlier (if you can't get up later), and keep the room totally dark.

What are you doing for exercise?  I lost about ten pounds just changing my routine from a weight-lifting circuit at the gym at night to a brisk pre-lunch walk.  I'm sure I burned fewer calories with the walk, but the gym workout forced me to have a bedtime snack to replenish.  Yet my % body fat stayed about the same.

And in case no one replied this way, cut way back on carbs (no more than 50g net carbs), and increase fat to maintain caloric intake.

Good luck


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Forgot to mention that drinking water is very important.  I follow the recommendation of: half body weight in lbs, then drink that much in ounces.  For example, I weigh about 160lbs, so I drink about 80oz of water daily.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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ok someone backe me some muffens... mmh.. sounds so good just to read about them...

I have a backer/cook friend, maybe I ask he make some.. minus all the sugar.. I can always add some trehalose if need be..  


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