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Mirro
Saturday, August 17, 2013, 5:41am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi, I'm new on this forum ( first post in fact) and I can't handle English very well so I'll try to make it quick

I have three questions about Hunter's diet.

First: If chocolate is recommended, can I get its benefits by drinking hot cocoa powder? ( when I was in Spain this summer, I got used to drink about 30 grams of http://www.valor.es/uploads/producto/3f592e4a82fc9287cc4da346b9b15ae7c0e7c0c6.png daily . It is pure cocoa powder, and I'm not sure about daily doseage and its benefits. How much cocoa powder daily do you recommend, and is it better than 100% chocolate?)

Second: Farmed salmon is bad, alright. But what about keta ( chum) salmon from Pacific, which is fished in China? In my city I can choose either this salmon, Norwegian farmed salmon, King Oscar's canned salmon ( pink maybe) or frozen wild Alaska - native salmon ( probably chum as well as this from China). Which is the best, what do you think?

Third: Can I eat egg whites without limits?
Just whites, I love them and 9 weekly are far not enough. I'm dreaming about 4 and more daily.

Thank you for reading all of this. Please, do not write "eat what you like and how much you like" because I can eat everything which is healthy as well as unhealthy foods, so lets stick to the recommendations ( I mean, please tell the truth, I have very strong will and ability to enjoy food after eating it few times - I used to hate broccoli, now I'm eating it 3x225g daily because it's healthy and I loved it. Yeah, steamed broccoli, just this green thing.)

Ps. Sorry for my bad English
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swami might be just what you need

which country are you from?

bloodtypediet@gmail.com will give guidance


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Hello Mirro,

Good Morning (?) and Welcome!

First of all, although not the person to comment on English, I can tell you that everything you say is most clear, so you don't have to worry about that one bit  

Secondly, you haven't told us yet what is your blood type - please enter the Member Center above and choose your avatar, so people can answer your questions regarding foods and quantities.

And thirdly, which of Dr. D's books have you read? Are you already following one of the diets?

When we know these details, we'll be able to help and guide you.

Re cocoa powder, evidently it's the same value as chocolate, with the benefit that it doesn't contain sugar, which is an avoid for many (still don't know about you though).

Most welcome again!


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Mirro
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Thank you for your kind words. I have read "Change Your Genetic Destiny", looks like I'm a Hunter ( not a big surprise, meat was my favourite food for all of my life). I might be young ( 18 years) but I used to be pretty obese - 86kg/170cm/14 years ( junk food, cookies, chocolate, honey in huge ammounts almost every day). Two years ago I started to diet which was pretty more like a starvation + insane exercise and boom, after two years my weight is 60. Now I'm trying to figure out which diet should I follow, and after 2 months I can say this: Hunter's diet is awesome
Im eating about two times more ( caloric value) than when I was dieting, and I'm just getting stronger, happier and healthier every day.

And these are the details
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Quoted from Mirro
First: If chocolate is recommended, can I get its benefits by drinking hot cocoa powder?  
It is pure cocoa powder, and I'm not sure about daily doseage and its benefits. How much cocoa powder daily do you recommend, and is it better than 100% chocolate?)
Cocoa powder is 100% cocoa with some of the fat removed.  This would be the best "chocolate" to use since it has no avoid additives...

According to the book:  Portion size for spices is 1 teaspoon (which should be 4.5 grams, according to my conversion calculation) with at least 1 to 2 servings per day.

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Second: Farmed salmon is bad, alright. But what about keta ( chum) salmon from Pacific, which is fished in China? In my city I can choose either this salmon, Norwegian farmed salmon, King Oscar's canned salmon ( pink maybe) or frozen wild Alaska - native salmon ( probably chum as well as this from China). Which is the best, what do you think?

I would say the frozen wild Alaska is best, with the others in this order: canned, the Keta - although it is difficult to know the packaging process in China, then the farmed salmon...
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Third: Can I eat egg whites without limits?
Just whites, I love them and 9 weekly are far not enough. I'm dreaming about 4 and more daily.

The recommendation is to eat up to 9 per week.  The idea is to balance the protein and nutrients from different types of foods.  


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Quoted from Mirro
But what about keta ( chum) salmon from Pacific, which is fished in China? In my city I can choose either this salmon, Norwegian farmed salmon, King Oscar's canned salmon ( pink maybe) or frozen wild Alaska - native salmon ( probably chum as well as this from China). Which is the best, what do you think?
Of the above choice, I'd go for the frozen wild Alaska, because personally I'd rather not have canned fish. Their site doesn't specify which salmon they can, but it does say that it is wild caught. http://www.kingoscar.com/our-fish/salmon.html

Keta salmon is not rated in Dr. D's food lists. I see that it is a close relative of the sockeye salmon, a Hunter's diamond. http://www.wildpacificsalmon.com/site/680079/PAGE/505886
I've just added it in the proper thread
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-xpress/m-1250265646/s-175/
as a request to include it in SWAMI in the future.




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swami might be just what you need
Swami will give you your personal recommended quantities, which may ease on your decisions and be more supportive to you in every step.

For example, my swami recommendation is 10 eggs weekly...  

Moreover, you may run swami time and again for yourself and change, if needed, your weight data from time to time, or add new data of which you may learn later, and ratings/quantities may change accordingly.



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Thanks, thanks and thanks again!
I was considering SWAMI but for now is too expensive for me - healthy food, driving licence, education and poof, no money :S
But I think I will buy it anyway, maybe in 2014 or so.
At least I have the book.
I'm really grateful for your posts. Good health and long live to all of you
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In general Os can "over eat" on proteins and fats without gaining weight,  but we have to be careful about portion sizes of sweets,  grains, and fruits. Since you're an 18 year old male, you may still be growing, and you may need more protein than somebody older who's done growing.

I would suggest that you make sure you eat enough total protein and total vegetables, and make sure you don't over-do the starchier foods. However, if you're very active, you may need more carbohydrates than somebody who's less active. The portion sizes in the book are only estimations; some people need more or less food than others. I certainly would not worry if you ate more eggs than recommended, especially if you compensate by eating slightly fewer of other animal proteins.

I often eat more eggs and less fish/poultry/red meat than recommended because eggs are much more economical.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Hi, its me again, thank you for every single answer  

Buuuuut i have another question, even two of them. Today I found new salmon in the supermarket, also Pacific, also wild and also fished in China
Oncorhynchus gorbuscha, or just gorbuscha.

Question number one : is this one better than keta, or no diffrence at all? They both are cheap, and thats why I'm asking for help, otherwise I would buy the wild alaskan keta which is three times more expensive ( and canned pink is about 8 times more expensive ;_; )

Question number two : Tuna, tuna and tuna again. What about tuna, is it neutral ( not mentioned for Hunter's in the book) or rather benefical? Should I swap it with salmon?

My every question is about Hunter genotype, rather than just O blood type. Im choosing among foods recommended by the book and then I make my diet plan using http://nutritiondata.self.com/ where I can see all the micronutients and vitamins. It might be not precise, but it's better to aim for 100% ( maybe not if it is about saturated fats and cholesterol) than have no knowledge at all :x


I knoooow I should buy SWAMI, but currently I can't even afford more expensive salmon.

So, tuna or salmon for Hunter? xD
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Quoted from Mirro
Hi, its me again, thank you for every single answer  

Buuuuut i have another question, even two of them. Today I found new salmon in the supermarket, also Pacific, also wild and also fished in China
Oncorhynchus gorbuscha, or just gorbuscha.



At some point you will just have to do the best decision you can with the money and knowledge you have.

Use the guidelines of the diet as best you can and when you can't, try to make the best informed choice.

Some things to consider are that China fished has lower safety by historical standards, and that Pacific fish from that area may give you some unintended radiation exposure (Fukashima).
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The link leads to the article about fruit labels, BUT there is "Dark chocolate protects DNA and the heart" in the popular, which is veeeery interesting, HUGE THANKS
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I think that tuna is neutral for everyone.

You are doing so well for your age & I'm glad you can afford this good food. Many folks cannot.

Your English is very good, too. Learning another language is a big job. Keep up the good work & keep checking this forum/message board. There is a lot to learn & good friends are here!


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I am not going to answer any of your questions... and here is my reason for writing to you any way.

I am O Gatherer and a world away from your Geno type, yet we are connected as humans. As humans I would suggest you read Live Right 4 Your Type, and particularly read it to see the words that also encourage you to maintain some -open spaces- for you to have a life.  Being on the diet for me at one time was My interpretations of what I read the first time I viewed a video on BTD long ago... I heard I could eat all the meat I could eat.  It was not the right interpretation, but it worked for me, and works for me even now.  I knew that I can eat meat and 'feel' good.  All else leaves me wanting more food and I gain weight.

Over time I have learned that I can do that, or I can find other foods and live with them also, for different purposes.  When I need to drop weight I eat more meat and stay away from other foods.  When I am healthy and can eat more fruits or berries, then I eat seasonal foods.  When I am needy for self pity, I eat beans or deserts.

So you see I have many different needs at different times.  I tell you this so you look at all of your life; look to all needs and wants.  There is a need to be healthy and there is a need to choose your own freedom.  I would advise 2 things... find a doctor who will tell you your state of health, so you can test things as you go.  Then eat according to the many choices you can make within your budget and the food lists.   (Careful, many doctors do not support BTD.)

Money is part of this diet as well.  If you get SWAMI some day you will have a better shopping list, but that is basically the biggest advantage.  Even with Swami you need to live inside of You!  The second suggestion I have is: to try one food at a time, for a week and see how you feel.  In the end it is all about feeling well.  Eating 80- to 90 % Benficials and better will make all the different.  And Neutrals are good also.

I can eat all the best of foods, yet when I eat one food that is not good for me ( avoids) I ‘feel’ my itchy jaw, or another food does not let me sleep, or make me tired. I needed two spoons of oil to be able to stop constipation, and I can feel full when eating meat but other foods make me hungry.

I think this is what Dr D is really suggesting all along in the books and the food lists.  Letting your body decide what is good for you.  I back it up with getting my blood tested every so often and make sure I stay informed.  If that where not possible, I would at least listen to my body - really listening to all the differences.   Your body will tell you.  

All the best to you and your interest in trying to do the best you can... for Your body.    


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Thank You for this long post. I know I must "listen" to my own body, but living in these days made me fourteen years old teenager with obesity. In fact, my body weren't screaming when I was eating everything I could find in one sitting, which often included pasta, frozen pizza, egg, cheese, milk, honey, cookies, ice cream and so. Half of a pizza, rolled cheese with ketchup ( 200g or so), two packets of chocolate cookies and 1 l of milk with, I don't know, 5 or 8 tablespoons of honey for a dinner/evening meal? No problem for me.

I was a monster ( hunter? XD) when I was eating on my own. My family was already feeding me ( and themselves) with traditional Polish food, which consists (in my family) mainly of fat cuts of meat, butter and flour ( pierogi, known as dumplings). Chocolate, cookies and candies were everyday in my house. And I was healthy.

The fact is, despite love to the candies and cookies, I have always love meat. When I smelled meat ( in any form, really) I threw out cookie and ran straight to consume meat. Trout on Christmas was my favourite food, farmed chicken was every two days in my grandmother's house durning holidays and my mother was making beef/por every weekend. I couldn't make it on my own, but now I can eat meat whenever I want to ( steamed meat   ).

When my diet, small amount of will and "supermetabolic genes" made me lost 25 kg, I'm feeling even better, healthier and stronger. It's great to know that the food you eat actually helps your body, not slowly makes it to rot.

Ps. probably most of my sentences are wrong, sorry

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I would buy a combination of tuna and salmon and alternate them. I'd try all the different varieties of affordable fish, and see how your body responds to them. If one reacts better than another, buy that one more often. If you react  badly to one, stop buying it. If they all seem about the same in your system, then alternate them for more variety.

If you ever have the interest and the time to play around in the kitchen, I bet you could imitate some of those traditional Polish foods with sweet potatoes in place of potatoes and spelt or rice flour in place of the wheat. Maybe it's not something you can do right now, but some day, when you're settled into your own house and want some "traditional comfort foods" it's something you can play around with. Traditionally, people in Eastern Europe ate a wide variety of root vegetables, not just potatoes.


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