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BluesSinger
Thursday, July 25, 2013, 4:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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So I need help for my fatigue!

I'm following Swami, taking supps and some aminos but I'm so tired.  Deeply fatigued.

I am under a huge amount of stress as I get ready for our upcoming 40 day tour - we leave July 31st.

Is there anything I can take, do or whatever to help me gain some energy?  Stress release is good but it's a bit rough right now to fully release it as I have to be on READY, SET, GO right now as we leave July 31st.

help!  Thank you!
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Thursday, July 25, 2013, 5:33pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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begin by giving us a count down of your exercise routine

this alone is my daily prosac and energy replenisher

which is yours?


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Thursday, July 25, 2013, 5:56pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Your liver is really affected by stress, and if it's being strained it can cause fatigue.



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BluesSinger
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Quoted from Lola
begin by giving us a count down of your exercise routine

this alone is my daily prosac and energy replenisher

which is yours?


I alternate the following and most weeks I take one day off:

Walking - 55 Min - 2-3 times a week
Elliptical - 45 Min - 2-3 times a week
Step Class Routine and Floor Exercise Work (i.e. abs, arms, legs, etc.) - 2-3 times a week
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Sounds like adrenal fatigue. There are some great adrenal supplements out there, but if you're looking for something simple I'd recommend vitamin c and sea salt. Your adrenal glands will keep dumping out sodium the more stressed they become, so replacing the sodium with a good quality sea salt (I personally love himalayan pink sea salt), about 1/2 tsp. daily on an empty stomach, as well as supplementing with a couple thousand milligrams of an absorbable form of vitamin c will likely do the trick if you continue the protocol daily. The vitamin c and sea salt also provide plenty of other benefits, particularly for your immune system, while you are on tour.

Best of luck to you!


Coleen ISF-J, Non-Taster
"Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." James 1:26-27
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No other symptoms with fatigue?  Are your BMs normal?  Hope you find your energy back up soon ...  




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Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Was just trying to recall if you were a Hunter (& you are) as you sound like my man...
Yeah, adrenal burnout - you hunters are always so coiled ready for action eh?!
Massage, sex, magnesium, B vitamins? Hope you cope ok?!
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Friday, July 26, 2013, 12:04am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Ok.. i figured out what three parts of this may be:

Part one - STRESS

Part two - I've had two quarts of blood drawn in the last two weeks for my Hemochromotosis.. my iron is high so they are trying to get it down.

Part three - over 100 degree temps the last two weeks.  

And I've been drinking a tall glass with 1/2 squeezed lemon juice, sea salt, and agave daily!  Sometimes twice a day.

what do you all think?    
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Sounds logical.. All those things would stress your body!! How are you normally with agave, incidentally? Can be hard on your liver sometimes?!
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yaeli
Friday, July 26, 2013, 5:22am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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The anti-stress supp friend of blood type O is Rhodiola.

It is contained in Dr. D's Catechol.

Here is Dr. D's Anti-stress Support Protocol (from the Health Protocols in Online Support above):

BLOOD GROUP O
Catechol (Rhodiola rosea & L-Tyrosine Formula): 1-2 capsules, three times daily
Sip Right 4 Your Type 'O' Tea: 2-3 cups daily
Valerian (Valeriana officinalis), 0.5% essential oils: 500 mg, 1-2 capsules, before bed
Aerobics, swimming, cycling: 25 minutes, four times weekly  

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/5.html

You may buy Rhodiola rosea in the supp market. Stress is very dangerous to health, but at the same time, it is such a ridiculous enemy! Who needs it.

My doctor prescribes Rhodiola rosea to me 3 x daily. I am an O. For me it works magic. If I don't take it, well, there's no point to complain. So, when I stand before the supp shelf, it is totally up to me.


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Here is Dr. D's Liver Support protocol to use for 4 weeks:

BLOOD GROUP O
Hepatiguard: 1 capsule, twice daily
Hytrax (Dandelion): 1-2 capsules, twice daily
Deflect O (ABO-specific lectin-blocking formula): 2 capsules, 2-3 times daily between meals
Quercetin Plus: 1 capsule, 2 times daily on an empty stomach
Phyllanthus (Phyllanthus amarus): 500 mg, 1-2 capsules daily

Hepatiguard:
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP043


Take care!  


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Quoted from BluesSinger
I am under a huge amount of stress as I get ready for our upcoming 40 day tour - we leave July 31st.
So exciting!  

Could you tell us a bit about it? How many concerts are you going to give?

In any case, wishing you lots of success and a wonderful experience.



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Friday, July 26, 2013, 10:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from BluesSinger
Ok.. i figured out what three parts of this may be:

Part one - STRESS

Part two - I've had two quarts of blood drawn in the last two weeks for my Hemochromotosis.. my iron is high so they are trying to get it down.

Part three - over 100 degree temps the last two weeks.  



Hello?

Be kind to yourself on the road, BluesSinger. Be great.

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Goldie
Friday, July 26, 2013, 1:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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All anyone is saying I am certain is good...

Yet you have suffered foe a long time... can you see the good you have experienced so far?

Can you post some picture on the wall like soldiers used to do, to remind them that there is more to life... or wear a ring or neckless, or a favorite shirt.. Almost anything to remind you of a better future.  

And tell your Self a thousand times a day:  THIS Will Get Better, this will pass.  try to believe it and learn to believe it, and repeat it as a mantra, in time it will settle in your mind and then the mind will function better.

Depression is a downer... playing the 40 day tour will be a change, can you leave all worries at home?  Will you be able to eat right?  If not then at the very least expect to feel less strong... but again remember: This will pass... This will pass... This will pass...

Just please stay far away from bad habits... you do not need them.  'Tired' alone and lonely is the biggest trigger to go off schedule, going off eating sleeping and loving who you are RIGHT now... loving you the way you are today!

In my family, no one was ever good enough... I am trying to change that.  WE are all good enough Right Now!! The Way we are right now!!!!

Don't sit in judgment of what happened 2 seconds ago... if something is wrong then fix it for the next time... but do not fret, the past is the past, and all that is in the past is 'meaningless and empty.. no fretting over it, just learn from it and then it's a lesson well earned.  This is to be understood in terms of caring for who you are Right Now... never mind the past and never mind the future... all that matters is right now... give ALL your cares to the Universe and let it handle all the questions and answers.. Let it be your best friend carrying your entire luggage and all your thoughts that might be in your head doing a -shadow dance-... a dance that is exhausting...

Stop the cycle of feeling tired... Yes we know you are... You know you are... for now let go of the thinking about it.  Take the sunrises and the sunsets as a Promise to you, of being alive and overcoming much of what life throws at you.

Tired is only a 'feeling'. : Like an orgasm in your mind... give ’tired’ a different word/ and the feeling will change...  IF you can buy the big book of Alcoholics... read any or one page at the time when you get overwhelmed...or read it for diversion or to forget being tired... read it...  there are short messages that will sink into your unconscious, and into your personal conscious and the words will by the end of the tour help to give you understanding and more strength..  At least you will know you are not alone!

All the best... and visit here often... visit to report the days when you adhered to BTD and visit for the days when you did not.. Good Luck and All The Best!!!!!

What is a link to your music... your tour... can we listen in?  Would we like to?  I would try it at least once if the powers to be will allow a link... I am looking forward to hearing from you and your music...  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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I was told to eat, a protein breakfast, within an hour of waking up in the morning, after it was decided I had Adrenal fatigue.

Goldie is right about having a schedule, kept one that works for you and make sure you get enough sleep.

I'm taking many of the sups listed by others and they are helping.


Swami, 100% me..
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When you absolutely don't have to stay up late, try and get to bed by 10 pm so that your adrenals have their optimum recovery time (early in the night).



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Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
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Goldie is right about having a schedule, kept one that works for you and make sure you get enough sleep.


I was talking about foods... and eating... and sleeping... but not adhere to schedules as might be restrictive to the SELF... Freedom to explore and experience is as important as are normal hours...

Freedom to choose gives one the sense of worth - the sense of autonomy that creates a space in which to be creative and become the explorer of real life.  

Adherence to schedules as is often touted for many reasons is a great responsibility, as then the schedule becomes a boss to a mind that is infinitely more capable than worry about what should would or could be.

If BTD is one thing, it is flexible with the prescribed 80% adherence needed to make it work.  The rest of those 20% leftover are the stuff that allows us not to be robots, or machinery that follows only one dictate.  That would be the least BTD like one should live by, as BTD always emphasizes the individual.

A musician who first gets to bed early morning, who is tired before he wakes up has a hard time with what should be ideal.  If indeed the adrenals repair themselves during the ,above mentioned time is important, then the work he is doing is there to feed his bank acct. but the feeding of the adrenals has to happen another way... --

--maybe by eating for the adrenals... like taking adrenal support in pill form as a pro active effort to at least provide food for the adrenals... that is one supplement ready available by nearly any chiro who sells Standard Process items.. Less than 20.-. and extremely effective... I go along with the above answer but suggest getting the supplement into the body energy so as to do what is possible for the next 40 days... to prevent further damage.

It is a little late to prepare yet that would be one way to actively prepare and protect your adrenals...

All the best on tour. Hope it will be your personal success as well as the group.

Also when nothing else is healthy on the food plate... eat apples, I think they do wonders... especially before sleeping... and they quench thirst...


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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royal jelly for adrenal fatigue....


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I think yoga  might help you because it helps me.  After I finish a yoga session, I have a lot more energy.  

And I would like to share:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n1GtOaL7XU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hruBWP3kugU

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hihUlcy394Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0yY1erl8Zs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN9_OGuzrH8



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When you absolutely don't have to stay up late, try and get to bed by 10 pm so that your adrenals have their optimum recovery time (early in the night).
...and sleep until 8am.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Acetyl L-Carnitine can help improve mental function / alertness.

Myself, I ignore the BTD advice -- I drink coffee, even though I understand that it might contribute to Adrenal Fatigue.

This response is not intended as medical advice.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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This response is not intended as medical advice.


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So I need help for my fatigue!

I'm following Swami, taking supps and some aminos but I'm so tired.  Deeply fatigued.

I am under a huge amount of stress as I get ready for our upcoming 40 day tour - we leave July 31st.

Is there anything I can take, do or whatever to help me gain some energy?  Stress release is good but it's a bit rough right now to fully release it as I have to be on READY, SET, GO right now as we leave July 31st.

help!  Thank you!


Focus on increasing dopamine.

I find that cardiovascular exercise actually decreases my dopamine - i.e. I get more tired.
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I have learned to copy the thread for when I am interested and saved it in my documents.. I will do it with this one too.. some answers are just worth having..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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