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rosa
Saturday, July 20, 2013, 4:40pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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My daughter , in her 20´s, wants to use the contraceptive Pill...however she is O´Pos like me. I read in LRYT that the contraceptive pill is not suitable for O´s as it can cause bleeding disorders. I used it for a few years in my 20´s also and stopped when I was planning my babies...I never seemed to have a problem with it.

Have any O´s had problems...or are there better options for O´s? Her doctor also suggested a ´contraceptive ring¨ which can be inserted for  3 wks at a time ,then removed for a week to allow menstruation - I hadn´t heard of this before!

I really would like her to have good clear information, while also protecting her from an unplanned pregnancy!
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Has she looked into an IUD? With a ParaGard there are no artificial hormones; Mirena has hormones. Personally I think ParaGard is the better choice, but of course that's an individual decision.

http://www.paragard.com/default.aspx
http://mirena-us.com/index.php?ecid=mirena:ppc:bng:brbrd:2132


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rosa
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many thanks ChrissyA - I will pass on the information to her...certainly the non-hormonal ParaGard seems like a good option...she may not be entirely happy with the heavier period aspect though as she already has a heavy flow..
many thanks again  
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I think the pill is bad for all women.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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That´s a sweeping statement! but I do agree..messing with hormones is not an ideal situation... but women must weigh up the pros and cons...I wish there was a healthier way to have some control over one´s fertility and choices. I would love to be able to advise my daughter on what is best for her system...hopefully some other female O´s might be able to shed some more light on the topic on what worked for them without health-risks..
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in those days having sex without condom is remaining to suicide... sorry my 2 cents.....


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rosa
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so true! ideally it would be best to use condoms as well as a 99.999% method...but unfortunately a 20something person will not go to such bother In many ways the choice is out of my hands...I am just glad my daughter trusted my opinion enough to ask for advice in the first place...whether she follows it or not is up to her
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Natural family planning works and is completely safe- but it requires a degree of self-control that not all couples are willing to use. It can also be combined with a barrier method such as condoms or  diaphragm-  use nothing when you're 100% sure you're not fertile, abstain when you're certain you're fertile, and a barrier on those iffy/reduced fertility days. I never got pregnant using that method- except when I didn't follow the rules carefully.

Of course, this method is only a good idea for women in mutually monogamous relationships, where neither party has been exposed to anything dangerous before the relationship began. It works perfectly when two virgins get married and stay faithful. It's not as wise a choice for a woman with multiple partners.

I'm going to assume that anybody with multiple sex partners is using condoms exclusively, and the young woman looking into other alternatives is in a  monogamous relationship, and STDs are not a pressing concern of hers.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Hi Rosa.

I'm brand new to the site and have just been poking around the various forums/posts...and I stumbled upon yours.  I am an O+ non secretor and I had a hell of a time with birth control pills.  I went on when I was 17 and didn't get off of them until I was 33.  Needless to say, I'm a hormonal mess!  The problems that I had on the pill were constant spotting, severe migraines and nausea, and a whole host of other non-descript female issues.  My doctor had me on 6 different pills throughout that time because he wasn't sure what the problem was.  Now I know!   Best of luck to you and your daughter.
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Quoted from rosa
...she may not be entirely happy with the heavier period aspect though as she already has a heavy flow..


Often, flow returns to normal after an initial adjustment phase. And some women don't experience any monthly changes...

But one thing is for certain - messing with your hormones now is a sure fire way to complicate your life later on...  


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I asked the question as my fear is that it will mess-up her hormones and her liver...I was fortunate as I did not have any issues being on the Pill in my early 20´s ..but it was just a couple of years. I will advise her to seek another form of contraception as I don´t want her to face further health problems in the future..
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good idea dearest rosa  


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What is wrong with condoms? Am I old fashioned? make a game of them-- and he won't mind  in the least. The better the quality the more natural the feel-- so sheep skin condoms although expensive keep sensitivity. Any guy worth being with will comply.





i know she is a young girl, but maybe teaching her a few things about how to make it fun might be worth it--

The only thing that will protect her from STD's too.


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Adam--Have you used super sensitive condoms made from sheep skin?

She is very young-- and nothing like getting an STD that you will have the rest of your life.

I understand the dilemma in the end she will decide what to do and live with the decision.



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I very much appreciate all the advice here  ....and having used various forms of contraception myself in the past, condoms were my least favourite, I think the sensitivity issue is similar for females as well as males!   (I haven´t seen sheep skin ones here!)...but I would always advise my daughter to use them until she is sure of her partner´s sexual health. I gave her the info on ParaGard and she is considering it.
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Probably just never looked for them-- one of my friends for over 40 years was bemoaning the whole condom issue and I told her about them she could not believe the difference.

Reviews from Amazon--  done now just wanted people to know that they are easy to get--
http://www.amazon.com/Trojan-N.....amp;showViewpoints=0


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This is, admittedly, from Wikipedia, but it's so concise, I thought I'd use it:

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Regardless of containing progestogen or copper, potential side effects of intrauterine devices include expulsion, uterus perforation, pelvic inflammatory disease (especially in the first 21 days after insertion), as well as irregular menstrual pattern. A small probability of pregnancy remains after IUD insertion, and when it occurs there's a greater risk of ectopic pregnancy.
Substantial pain that needs active management occurs in approximately 17% of nulliparous women and approximately 11% of parous women.[24] In such cases, NSAID are evidenced to be effective.[24] However, no prophylactic analgesic drug have been found to effective for routine use for women undergoing IUD insertion.[24]
Also, IUDs with progestogen confer an increased risk of ovarian cysts, and IUDs with copper confer an increased risk of heavier periods.


2-10% of IUDs are expelled during the first year. An expelled IUD isn't contraceptive.
Uterine perforation is rare, but horrendous.
17% of IUD-bearing nulliparous women (i.e., those who've never had a baby) suffer "substantial" pelvic pain from these devices.
Please investigate this with your daughter's goals, lifestyle, and medical history in mind before standing behind it as your recommendation.
Research is definitely called for, IMO.


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This whole topic isn´t as simple as I´d hoped SanJ I know of the risks with IUD´s as my sister-in-law had major issues with one...it may have been embedded...ugh..
The sheep condoms sound amazing...many thanks Andrea AWsec...honestly I´d never heard of them! great they can be bought on Amazon  
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Adam... so true...sooo true ( all a question of point of views and hey you're one of the rares who is taking this positively.... bravo....

and ladies.. I didn't knew about the sheepy's propositions.. hmmm I don't know if that exists here... btw. I myselve have a laterx allegy... .....but merely my hands get cracked up by using latex gloves........


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it is all how you present it to your man-- it can be fun or a drag. Be creative as to how you put them on.  


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