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Laura D
Saturday, May 18, 2013, 3:13pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I am trying to decipher my body's changes in hormones throughout the month.  Every month on around day 19 or 20 I have a total mood change.  I go from driven, focused, clear-minded, productive and happy to tired, unfocused, foggy, not sure what to do first or where to start and short tempered.  I also have a huge appetite increase where I am most tempted to not eat compliantly.  Then it subsides for a few days, probably a week, and then I am crabby for one day about 2 days before my cycle starts.  

Any thoughts?  Background is I'm 35 years old, O nonnie with 2 kids age 5.5 and age 4.  I stay at home with the kids.  I try to lead a relatively stress free life.


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do you eat or drink something different around that time or do you change environment around that time.


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I'm intrigued by the thread title.  Why do you think you're experiencing progesterone spikes?


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Quoted from Laura D
I am trying to decipher my body's changes in hormones throughout the month.  Every month on around day 19 or 20 I have a total mood change.  I go from driven, focused, clear-minded, productive and happy to tired, unfocused, foggy, not sure what to do first or where to start and short tempered.  I also have a huge appetite increase where I am most tempted to not eat compliantly.  Then it subsides for a few days, probably a week, and then I am crabby for one day about 2 days before my cycle starts.  

Any thoughts?  Background is I'm 35 years old, O nonnie with 2 kids age 5.5 and age 4.  I stay at home with the kids.  I try to lead a relatively stress free life.


If it's ovulation, how would you know it is progesterone vs. estrogen spike? Progesterone is my friend. Lack of it is my pms enemy!


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Quoted from Laura D
I am trying to decipher my body's changes in hormones throughout the month.  Every month on around day 19 or 20 I have a total mood change.  I go from driven, focused, clear-minded, productive and happy to tired, unfocused, foggy, not sure what to do first or where to start and short tempered.  I also have a huge appetite increase where I am most tempted to not eat compliantly.  Then it subsides for a few days, probably a week, and then I am crabby for one day about 2 days before my cycle starts.  

Any thoughts?  Background is I'm 35 years old, O nonnie with 2 kids age 5.5 and age 4.  I stay at home with the kids.  I try to lead a relatively stress free life.

Welcome!  It sounds like classic PMS, and the very best possible thing you can do for yourself is actually to follow the diet that is right for your type, as that should get your body into its optimum state of balance, including brain chemistry and hormonal balance.  It actually sound like you are experiencing more of a progesterone dip/estrogen spike than a “progesterone spike”.  Try the following:

1.   Be as compliant as you can on your diet—Are you following the blood type diet or the genotype diet?  In my opinion, for now, you should probably follow the blood type diet for O nons, just in case you may have typed yourself wrong as an Explorer—figuring out your genotype correctly is the hardest part of the entire GTD *lol*, actually following the diet itself is a joy, but at this point, since you are so new and it is a bit complex to get the genotyping right, and we KNOW you are an O nonnie, I’d recommend following the BTD O nonnie protocol.

2.  I’d be especially compliant about wheat—avoid it completely—corn, and any junk ingredients.

3.  Every day, be sure to eat enough high-quality protein at virtually every meal.  It is also important to get enough good fats like omega 3 in there.  Foods like wild-caught salmon are great for us O nonnie women to prevent and mitigate PMS.

4.  Try to focus on whole foods mainly—veggies, fruit, meat, nuts and seeds, and some whole compliant grains like brown rice.

5.  This may sound obvious but I know I have to really work at this, as I have a lot of issues making doing this challenging:  try to get enough sleep at night.  Sleep is SO crucial to preventing PMS!

To recap:  be as compliant as you can on whichever of Dr. D’s diets you are following, being especially careful to AVOID WHEAT and to GET ENOUGH PROTEIN and GOOD FATS.  Don’t forget to sleep and—omg, I can’t believe I left this out, but let’s put it in as a “last but not least”:  EXERCISE.  What I do is walk, half an hour per day, sometimes way more.  Yes, it is time consuming, but the benefits are many and profound, including complementing your diet in terms of balancing your brain chemistry.  Again, welcome, and if it gives you hope, I can tell you that I find this diet greatly, GREATLY helps with PMS.  I still get it sometimes but this diet has just balanced every system in my body and, one of the first things it did for me, years ago, was get my periods regular again and help with PMS.  Like I said, I still get it sometimes, and sometimes one symptoms is still BAD—outbursts of either ANGER or CRYING, which, like clockwork, will happen EXACTLY two days before my period, if it is going to happen at all.  I haven’t murdered anyone yet, so we can thank the Blood Type Diet for saving lives in more ways than one!  


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P.S.  Two more thoughts:

I’m not big on supplements, but the one I take regularly (besides DPN’s Proberry Caps in wintertime) is CoQ10.  I cannot say enough about this stuff, which is naturally produced by our bodies, yet sometimes we need a little more (as is the case with Vitamin C, for instance).  CoQ10 does so much, I don’t know where to start, but in terms of PMS, it has an amazingly profound impact on mood/sense of wellbeing, at least for this O nonnie.  I started taking the stuff some years back for gum health, but found that I LOVE it for so many other reasons, like the sense of wellbeing that came over me when I first started taking it.  I must have REALLY needed it because I noticed immediately that my outlook changed.  It also went to work regulating my circadian rhythm/sleep-wake patterns, and it is really good for your heart, which it turns out is important for me, too, as I have a weird heart thing and need to keep that particular organ as healthy and robust as I can.  It is also great for everything from breast cancer prevention to gum health, as I mentioned.  For PMS, it will infuse you with a calmness/sense of wellbeing and help balance your brain chemistry—so between your excellent diet, exercise, sleep and the CoQ10, your brain chemistry will be in BALANCE!

Last but not least, my fellow O non, I notice that before and during my period, I need some RED MEAT, specifically.  IRON, wu HUUUUUU!


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