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I've had a couple of people tell me now that they read they are finding out grapefruits are bad for you.  

I have basically ignored them because I love them.  I don't eat them all the time.  But I have to tell you, I just love them.  I had a rio star red this morning and it was just sooooooooooooooooooooooooo gooooood.  

Anyways...  It's one fruit that I felt like I could eat that didn't make yeast worse back when I had it real bad.  

I think they are claiming there is some kind of relationship with heart problems and grapefruit.  But I had an arrhythmia long before I ever even looked at a grapefruit much less eat one.  I never drank the juice either.  Too bitter.  

Anyways..  just wondering if anybody else has heard these rumblings about them being bad too.  There must be some studies out there.  But if there is real merit to them, I'm all ears.  


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Grapefruit interferes with various drugs/herbs.

If you are not taking medicine that it interacts with and it is okay on your SWAMI than you should not worry about the fact that it is not good for others to eat.

If you are taking any drugs for the heart condition you need to read the labels to see if the drug you taking interacts with grapefruit. Lots of the heart medicine are such that you should not eat grapefruit while on the drug.


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More one size fits all blah blah--


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If you aren't taking drugs, you don't have a thing to worry about! It is the heart MEDICATION that conflicts with grapefruit.


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Sorry, C_sharp, didn't see your post before I posted!


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we need furthermore enemypics about that .go..go goooo for it !!! yeeehhha ...


as C_sharp mentioned it... ok for the drug interactions ... but tell me now who really needs drugs ... .....the name should be enough to say,,,ooops...  but for this  you need
courage......... and a bit of grey cells ...........


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Good.  No drugs here.  I do have a prescribed drug for my heart arrhythmia for AS NEEDED.  If it doesn't go away when it happens.  

Praise the LORD I haven't had to take it but a few times in the last couple of years. When I do get my arrhythmia, it typically only lasts a few minutes.  Depending on how I'm feeling.  

I thought this was the case.  But these people were saying it like it didn't matter if you were on drugs or not.  


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All I've heard and read is that grapefruit interacts negatively with medications. I was told that if you take them hours apart, it is OK. I don't know if that is true or not. I love grapefruit and I don't take the statins nor beta-blockers my heart doctor prescribed because of the side effects I had even without the grapefruit.
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Good.  No drugs here.  I do have a prescribed drug for my heart arrhythmia for AS NEEDED.  If it doesn't go away when it happens.  

Praise the LORD I haven't had to take it but a few times in the last couple of years. When I do get my arrhythmia, it typically only lasts a few minutes.  Depending on how I'm feeling.  

I thought this was the case.  But these people were saying it like it didn't matter if you were on drugs or not.  

Probably just read a headline and ran like wild turkeys to write up something.
I have arrhythmia  every blue moon, or so, and I never take anything for it. It goes away quicker than any drug could work. If I were to take anything, it would be Hawthorn. One of my most favorite herbals. I adore grapefruit, too, and it is a diamond for me, but my body reacts violently if I eat it.


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yummy how psychosomatic interactions are working.... but yukky especially for us the AB's...can't say anymore about that thema... tried for so long times..even years...now it's over .........and enough


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I heard a naturopathic doctor I used to go to say that grapefruits weaken or have some sort of negative impact on the liver. I'm not sure what research he used to back up the statement, but my dh is an explorer and has grapefruit listed as a black dot food, perhaps for that reason.


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I have had slightly high bilirubins since age 20, and from reading about that, one possibility is the inherited cause "Gilbert's syndrome: related to the liver, and if you have that they recommend not eating grapefruit, among other things you should avoid.  For that reason I rarely eat it.
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I heard a naturopathic doctor I used to go to say that grapefruits weaken or have some sort of negative impact on the liver. I'm not sure what research he used to back up the statement, but my dh is an explorer and has grapefruit listed as a black dot food, perhaps for that reason.


C_Sharp....I must concur with all the other folks here that can't eat grapefruit on their SWAMIs, unfortunately. I have it as a diamond just as I do for rice, but cannot eat the 2 anymore because (what would normally be positive agglutinating action in most) produces a negative for me. Beyond one serving of rice or grapefruit per month, I get a very bad reaction.

Grapefruit's lectin is carbohydrate binding and grapefruit is a possible hybrid of pummelo and blood orange originating around 1680.


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JJR, I would go ahead & enjoy it!
If it agrees with you, eat it as you have had so many other reactions to other foods.
I think it is a diamond for me, too.

I know that Dr. D doesn't recommend food combinations, but I especially try to eat fruit on an empty stomach. Maybe some of the bad reactions are because some folks eat it with or after other food. I eat fruit in the morning & in recent years, I may have some if many hours have elapsed since the last meal (like if I'm outside & very busy - normally, I eat more often!).


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It is a diamond in my Swami and since it is the only citrus (apart from lime and lemon) in my lists, I really enjoy it!!  I do have it pretty often, usually before my main meals, either half a red grapefruit or half a glass of the juice.  




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I think they are claiming there is some kind of relationship with heart problems and grapefruit.  But I had an arrhythmia long before I ever even looked at a grapefruit much less eat one.  I never drank the juice either.  Too bitter.

The only reason for not taking grapefruit while taking some heart medications is that the grapefruit makes the drug much more effective, so it throws off the "normal" dosage calculation...  It is better for the drug mfr. to say "Don't eat grapefruit, because 1) they sell more drugs and 2) because many people wouldn't follow an instruction to eat 1/2 grapefruit per day so you can take this smaller dosage...  Just like it is too much work to follow one of these diets to be healthier...

I love grapefruit, even though they don't get enough heat here to be really sweet, I still eat and juice them.  It's still sweeter than lemon or lime.


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I remember eating one from Florida once a long time ago and I was blown away by how good it was.  


I do remember that my Doctor said I shouldn't overdue it with them because it had something to do with slowing down my detox system.  I eat them regularly, but not every day.  

They can be sooooo good though.  

I need to move onto tangerines.  I'm supposed to be able to have them, but I haven't tried one yet.  Oranges our out though.  


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Interesting: Breast cancer and thrombosis risks are elevated in patients eating grapefruit in conjunction with estradiol.


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For years I have been taking my thyroid meds with it.  It makes them stronger.  For a while I was trying on my doctor's advice to take the thyroid meds at night and I didn't take them with grapefruit juice.  My TSH shot way up so he said to just continue taking them in the morning with the juice.  It's consistency that matters.  
My father who passed away in '06 couldn't have grapefruit juice because of the interaction with one of his meds - not sure if it was the blood pressure one or a statin.  
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Right, it actually increases effectiveness of medications.

It isn't bad, its actually 'too good' is what is happening. Drug makers can't compensate for the factor, so they add a warning.
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JJR,
Your comment " that my Doctor said I shouldn't overdue it with them because it had something to do with slowing down my detox system".  Would assume it is to do with your liver/gall bladder. Do you have high bilirun by any chance?
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Missing from that list is ConZip (tramadol hydrochloride).  It also isn't mentioned on the Conzip monograph, although the monograph does state that it's metabolized by the same enzyme that gets depleted from eating grapefruit.

I remember writing about this before, and it's not on my blog.  So perhaps I wrote about it here.


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JJR,
Your comment " that my Doctor said I shouldn't overdue it with them because it had something to do with slowing down my detox system".  Would assume it is to do with your liver/gall bladder. Do you have high bilirun by any chance?
Lin


Hmmmm.... I'd have to pull it out again and look at it.  It was with my Detoxigenomic profile test.  


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JJR, don't worry I was just curious because I have slightly elevated Bilirubin that got higher when I had health issues and I did a lot of reading to see what that was about and one reason can be that it is Gilbert's syndrome and there are recommendations as to what to avoid that are hard to detox if you have this, and grapefruit is one.
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