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marjorie
Tuesday, April 9, 2013, 4:08am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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So, I googled the symptoms of leaky gut, and I am not sure, but I definitely did something wrong in the last few days.

I was wondering if any o's have experienced this before? I used to have it when I was only eating fruit but that was like 20 years ago!

I also think I cant do nightshades or carrots, despite what swami says. Well, at least I know now. I was MISERABLE for 3 days and I think it was because I had too much sugar in me and again, if I am not in ketosis, I get moody.

I am not sure if this is normal, but I hope going back to extreme low carb will help.

In general though, I feel better without eating soooo much protein. I need to find a healthy balance.

Aussie has mentioned that we dont need as much protein as what is recommended... I agree, but I can see a difference when I dont have enough.

STill not doing the meat but fish is ok right now.

Not that anyone cares, just thought I would share))
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Spring
Tuesday, April 9, 2013, 4:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from marjorie
STill not doing the meat but fish is ok right now.
Not that anyone cares, just thought I would share))

Can you have lamb, Marjorie? I wonder how you would do with that.... I buy the boneless stew meat and make dishes with it. I use shears to cut off every bit of fat possible. Most of the time it is almost fat free anyway. I eat it every week or two.



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Tuesday, April 9, 2013, 4:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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We all care, Marjorie.
Even if we can't relate to your exact situation, we all have something unique to our own situations that we're trying to fine tune our eating to.  So, we can all relate to that need to be the best we can be.  Working on what's best for us individually.



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marjorie
Tuesday, April 9, 2013, 5:04am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from BCgal
We all care, Marjorie.
Even if we can't relate to your exact situation, we all have something unique to our own situations that we're trying to fine tune our eating to.  So, we can all relate to that need to be the best we can be.  Working on what's best for us individually.


Thanks so much. I know everyone is so different... but I will be ok. I am strong, I always make it through somehow. This too shall pass.
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marjorie
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Can you have lamb, Marjorie? I wonder how you would do with that.... I buy the boneless stew meat and make dishes with it. I use shears to cut off every bit of fat possible. Most of the time it is almost fat free anyway. I eat it every week or two.


I can, however, I dont like it. and... this would mean I have to cook, and LOOK OUT SMOKE ALARMS!!! I am still a hot mess in the kitchen if it is not a salad.

Seriously...I am doing raw fish right now if I eat any protein at all and i buy it at a sushi store.


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I can, however, I dont like it. and... this would mean I have to cook, and LOOK OUT SMOKE ALARMS!!! I am still a hot mess in the kitchen if it is not a salad.
Cooking is so simple!!!! - when you choose the simple way. Simple is cooking yummi too! NOW is the time, no point in delaying. Obviously your first step is to get friendly with controlling the fire, and learn to heat oil in the pan on a moderate heat, to catch the pot right before the water is boiling, etc. The rest is peanuts!   and FUN.



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There is a possibility that your digestive system is not working as best it could.  Maybe a round or two of Dr. D's Gastro D, Intrinsa & Polyflora O to bring things back into balance. <3


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I can, however, I dont like it. and... this would mean I have to cook, and LOOK OUT SMOKE ALARMS!!! I am still a hot mess in the kitchen if it is not a salad.

Seriously...I am doing raw fish right now if I eat any protein at all and i buy it at a sushi store.

Oh, yes, I forgot that cooking is something you want to avoid if at all possible! My oldest son's wife LOVES sushi and eats it every chance she gets because it makes her feel wonderful! And, of course, that was the thing she craved with her first pregnancy.   Couldn't have it then, though. Her mother promised her that she would bring her some to the hospital as soon as she had the baby!

Can you eat canned beans of any sort to get protein from them? A few years ago I had a major project going on in my kitchen, and I couldn't have done it if I had not opened up cans of black beans and eaten them right out of the can for snacks. They literally kept me going between meals. They never bothered me at all then. Maybe I need to try to eat some right out of the can now and see what happens!  


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marjorie
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thanks. Beans do not work for me at all.


I am glad that they saved you
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I know I wish I had answers for you but even though we are both O's I was able to solve most of my problems by not eating gluten and then the rest by sticking to the BTD.  I think you need someone smarter than me to help.  

I know gluten can cause leaky gut and milk products to a lesser degree but I don't know if other foods can cause that condition.

I know nightshades cause me to have joint, muscle, and bone pain and of the nightshades potatoes cause more of that than the other nightshades...And I know that science has found genes that make some more sensitive to nightshades than others...
my mom had rheumatoid arthritis so I may have those genes.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the protein allowances in any of the diets as high protein.  I think some eat more protein than the diets call for and it works for them, but to me 4 oz. twice a day doesn't seem like a high protein diet.

I know how hard you try to find answers and I would love to be able to help but I don't have the knowledge, I can only wish you well and try to encourage you not to give up.  

Is it at all possible to go to the clinic?  I think you could really benefit from someone with a lot of knowledge working one on one with you.  
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Hate to ask this, but have you did a parasite cleanse?  With all the sushi you eat, it might contribute to your problem.  

Here is a good video to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx9WXwsGfQA

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marjorie
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Quoted from kitari
I know I wish I had answers for you but even though we are both O's I was able to solve most of my problems by not eating gluten and then the rest by sticking to the BTD.  I think you need someone smarter than me to help.  

I know gluten can cause leaky gut and milk products to a lesser degree but I don't know if other foods can cause that condition.

I know nightshades cause me to have joint, muscle, and bone pain and of the nightshades potatoes cause more of that than the other nightshades...And I know that science has found genes that make some more sensitive to nightshades than others...
my mom had rheumatoid arthritis so I may have those genes.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the protein allowances in any of the diets as high protein.  I think some eat more protein than the diets call for and it works for them, but to me 4 oz. twice a day doesn't seem like a high protein diet.

I know how hard you try to find answers and I would love to be able to help but I don't have the knowledge, I can only wish you well and try to encourage you not to give up.  

Is it at all possible to go to the clinic?  I think you could really benefit from someone with a lot of knowledge working one on one with you.  


I cant go to the clinic. I am going to be fine, I am sure. I just need to stop analyzing everythign I eat for heavens sake. It is causing me more stress. I think you are right about the nightshades, my muscles and joints ache bad today and I started eating the peppers again... also, I overeat and I know this is partly the problem. I am going to start a fast this week. I want to lose about ten lbs and then I can get back on track. Actually, I just want this horrible bloated feeling in my stomach to go away.
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How are you doing now Marjorie?


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How are you doing now Marjorie?


Hey there-- thanks for asking. I had an ok day but was brainfogged until about 730 when I had my dinner of salmon and veggies.

I still think I need to tweak my diet, but will have to find a way to make this work. I know I need my fish to focus, but just not sure why some days I can be fine with it, but then others, I can hardly digest it.

All I know is that i was soooo miserable and mooody today until I ate a good meal. I think it must just be my body telling me something.

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marjorie
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And.. I did not do a fast, but I cut back alot on my calories. Geez, at this point, I dont know if I am overeating, undereating or not.

Sometimes, I feel like NOT EATING is the answer.. but this turns into bad habits.
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O Hunters can handle a little fasting.


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