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BluesSinger
Tuesday, April 2, 2013, 9:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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So here's a question for the powers that be or for those that have done this:

During the two month Swami "wash out period"... how compliant does one need to be in order for this to be successful and those who have done the two month wash out period, were you absolutely 100% compliant?  

I really want to work to make it through this washout period but I can't start yet as I keep finding little things in my foods that are avoids or black dots!!!! I'm slowly working them all out!  

Thanks for your responses!!!
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What's a "wash out" period?  I've been around the forums for a while, but I'm not familiar with this term.


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I avoided black dots for six months completely even now I rarely eat them.


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ABJoe
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Quoted from KimonoKat
What's a "wash out" period?  I've been around the forums for a while, but I'm not familiar with this term.

The "wash out" period refers to the 3-6 month (per the book) period during which Black Dot avoids are kept out of the diet, before moderate re-introduction.

  


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BluesSinger
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ABJoe... my Swami says 2 months wash out period?
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ABJoe
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Quoted from BluesSinger
During the two month Swami "wash out period"... how compliant does one need to be in order for this to be successful and those who have done the two month wash out period, were you absolutely 100% compliant?

I was 100% compliant with Beneficial foods only for about a year, and still eat about 90-95% beneficial foods only because my body is still making profound changes...  I can count on one hand the number of times I have eaten anything out of the avoid (black dot or total avoid) column for the last 4 years...  

That said, I have never had the type of eating issues you have, so do the best you can do.  As long as you are healing, you are making progress - even if it is slower than someone else, or that you may be able to do if you were more compliant.  You have to be able to stick to it long term to make it work for a lifetime...


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ABJoe
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Quoted from BluesSinger
ABJoe... my Swami says 2 months wash out period?

That's why I put the "per the book" notation.  Just to let everyone know that is where I took the information from so as to not conflict with what anyone else may find somewhere else...

My SWAMI also says they should be avoided for a minimum 60 day 'washout time'.  It can be longer for those needing to heal or lose weight longer.


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Quoted from ABJoe

That's why I put the "per the book" notation.  Just to let everyone know that is where I took the information from so as to not conflict with what anyone else may find somewhere else...

My SWAMI also says they should be avoided for a minimum 60 day 'washout time'.  It can be longer for those needing to heal or lose weight longer.


ok got it.. I thought maybe each person had a different 'washout' period depending on their disease processes.
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ABJoe
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ok got it.. I thought maybe each person had a different 'washout' period depending on their disease processes.

I don't think SWAMI changes the time indicated....  I think it is up to each individual to realize whether they need to extend the time...    



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I think the wash out period really depends on where your health is when you start. If you health is really bad you may want to go for a much longer period of time before adding black dots back in. If your health is good you can add them in much sooner. I am a proud vegan warrior. I was in bad health - diabetes, doctor was worried about my kidneys because of the diabetes so put me on a blood pressure med, and had thyriod med. Now I am meds free and over 80 pounds lighter. Being a vegan warior got me there. I was about 99% vegan and about 99% warrior - when I cheated on one is was complaint with the other. I posted a while ago I was going to try adding back some diamond meat - it didn't work for me. I am a happy vegan warrior and can't wait for the update we have been promised for over two years now - so I can enter vegan and have correct veggie protien amounts. I still have more weight to loose and I am on the right track. I found just listening to my body works. My two big cheats (avoids) that I love and still eat occassionally are chili peppers and popcorn. They really don't seem to effect me like some other avoids do. I just follow where my body leads me - it really does tell me when I am off track - it took some time to get to the point that I was able to listen to my body. I love how Swami really personalizes to you - not just anyone.  


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Thank you ProudWarrior!!! I'm finding the more I work with my Swami foods, the more I don't want to eat Black Dots or Avoids and even Neutrals much.  I'm trying everyday to find ways to get more of the Avoids and Black Dots completely out of my life for now.  
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It is funny how that works. I never really liked peaches before, but I have found myself drinking peach green tea and loving it - peach is a diamond fruit for me.  I am trying to just listen to my body - it really does know what it is doing.  


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I have two black dot foods, goat milk kiefer and dark chocolate I am not be able to give up yet. Other than that I eat foods from diamond or beneficial.

Is it then I can have them in small quantity after wash out?
I know it would be better eliminating it.

Any advise?
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Adam
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I hear ya, sunnyside, I've never completed a washout.  Lasted at most one month.  Chocolate (black dot) seems to always get me.
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Sunnyside, after the wash-out period, you can try to eat a black dot food and see what happens.
As your system should be "clean" from two months of nothing but foods that are good for you, you'll feel soon enough if the black dot food in question is doing you any harm at this stage.

At least, that's how I did it, and some black dots felt OK to eat from time to time, while it turned out I have to treat others more like out and out avoids  

But try for yourself and see; if you take the black dots one at a time, you'll be able to monitor the effect on your body easily enough.


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sunnyside
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2degreespices, I have 2 boxes organic 85% dark chocolate and was ready to throw away.
I don't think it is right to give foods I don't eat to some one.

Reading 100% compliance thread inspired me giving up black dot.

I will think about your advise. Thank you.
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It's not like feeding poison to your friends. Some people get chocolate as a diamond and sugar as neutral- making that 85% chocolate a healthy food for some!

I'm personally very hesitant to throw out food that somebody may find useful.


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Any nonperishable food that noone eats here in the house goes to the break room table at work.  It magically disappears.
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sunnyside
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Yes I will take it to office lunch room.

I learned here that I can eat neutrals and think I am in compliance.
But considering my age, I will elimate any neutrals also and stay in diamond and beneficial.

Thank you every one.
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BluesSinger
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Well I can't give up this black dot:

Soy milk.  I have it my tea and sometimes use it in my shakes.  

I was thinking of changing to Oat Milk but it's also a black dot and has Gellan gum (never heard of this gum so I'm treating it as neutral?)

I don't want to give up having something creamy in my tea and currently I don't have time to make my own almond or rice milk.  All of the store brands have bad things in them. (:

Also Ghee is a beneficial but at 1 tsp 3 times a week... well I'm not ahereing to that presently!!!  I've heard others are not also.  
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