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Hi has anyone tried the Chaste Berry and/or Horsetail listed in the Protocol section of the Menopause Health Library book with any good results?

Also other suggestions are welcome!  My hot flashes are driving me insane!  
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fembalance is a great formula

also try the overnight liver cleanses periodically


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My type O gather wife has had great success with the Fem Balance, Detoxical, Clearcal Protocol. Hot flashes went from frequent and awful to rare and barely noticeable. Taking the recommended dosages made a noticable difference, too.
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soy milk????
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My type O gather wife has had great success with the Fem Balance, Detoxical, Clearcal Protocol. Hot flashes went from frequent and awful to rare and barely noticeable. Taking the recommended dosages made a noticable difference, too.


just ordered the pack!  there's a special going!!!  Thank you!
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Yeah!  Fem Balance!  

Also freshly ground flaxseeds, daily.   (if they are ok on your SWAMI)



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FEM BALANCE!!!!!

Contrary to all nay-sayers who say NOTHING WORKS... FEM BALANCE WORKS!!!!

thank you DR. D!!!

I had written the following on my blog BEFORE Fem Balance!  ha ha



HOT FLASHING... Please Excuse Me!

The heat is unbearable and it rises like a roller coaster up into the red zone pushing... pressing... intensely insistent - unavoidable - un-ignorable right up against every inch of my skin.

The heat and humidity of the WORST day one could EVER imagine in the deep South, lives inside of me with a will of its own, overtaking me at any given second with its GROSS STICKY SWEAT!

There is no waiting for the complete assault.. one must arise quickly upon the first sign of warmth...TEARING off all clothing, RUNNING AND DIVING into any nearby snow drift.  It is the ONLY relief.  An ice cold pool would also nicely do.  Or perhaps a cheap household fan that one MUST carry around like a purse.  It MUST go where you go.  Plug it in and BE READY at any and all times.  Sometimes I fantasize about a fan that one wears like a hat with a toggle switch like a lamp.

Many times during these Winter and Spring mornings I have quickly let my robe drop and stepped out onto my front porch into the frigid air that then immediately lifts the GROSS, STICKY, HUMID, 5000 DEGREE moisture from my sweltering body... the relief is wondrous, pure glory!

But warmer Spring days are coming and Summer looms... and I'm just flat out doomed.  Perhaps I will carry around an ice chest full of  freezing water containers,  pouring them over my head as needed. I  can just wrap my hair in a towel paired with matching earrings with maybe a t-shirt with red glittering letters that reads "'HOT FLASHING' Please Ignore Me."

Mother Nature may I ask, may I inquire, as to the reasoning in your amazing bag of tricks? The reasoning behind the need to make every woman a TOTAL INSANE BITC.... while she does her best to smile and carry on as her entire beautiful body turns into a gross sweaty ICK?

What is this torture?!  This physical insanity?!!!  Some kind of test?!!!  My patience is running thin and I can't presently say the same for my suddenly rounded back end!  Is this also part of the plan?!  "GROSS, SWEATY, 5000 DEGREE WOMAN WITH LARGE ROUNDED BACK END?!"  I know you won't answer so I can only complain, expletive deleted, wail and moan myself through, visualizing the rapid and desperate tearing off of every scrap of clothing, and DIVING WITHOUT ONE THOUGHT OF HESITATION WHAT-SO-EVER, into huge voluptuous snow drifts all year!

And so they say...."This too shall pass."  Well... THAT is the ONLY blessing of the HOT FLASH!

(c) 2013 (3/23/13) Christina M. James
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Ok I've been on Fem Balance through 2-1/2 bottles. However recently my hot flashes have gotten worse... horrible.  Yesterday I was hot ALL day.  I'm thinking possibly the barametric pressure from the rain fronts hanging around is not helping.  

Any thing else I can possibly do to relieve this horror of heat?
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Quoted from Averno
My type O gather wife has had great success with the Fem Balance, Detoxical, Clearcal Protocol. Hot flashes went from frequent and awful to rare and barely noticeable. Taking the recommended dosages made a noticable difference, too.


I have to say that my wife's issues also returned after awhile, though the supps seem to have moderated it somewhat. I suppose then that this will be cyclical and diminishing over time as hormone levels reach a certain balance.

I have noticed that even small amounts of wheat or soy trigger particularly bad episodes (eating away from home is so risky).

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"There is no waiting for the complete assault.. one must arise quickly upon the first sign of warmth...TEARING off all clothing, RUNNING AND DIVING into any nearby snow drift."

  So this is what I have to look forward to, eh?  And there are no snow drifts around these here parts.  WARDROBE!


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I have noticed that even small amounts of wheat or soy trigger particularly bad episodes (eating away from home is so risky).

Wheat does terrible things to Type O hormone balance.  I haven't touched the stuff knowingly in many, MANY years now, but how well I remember--and, if I accidently ingest even a speck, I get a reminder--what monstrous PMS mood/temperament symptoms it triggers.  And at ANY time of the month, if you are an O and eat wheat, for many of us it will trigger PMS-like mood symptoms:  feelings of dread, bursts of rage, bursting into tears, etc.  The stuff is not meant for us.  Yet it is everywhere in our food supply.  If I weren't on the BTD, I would have probably been long-since jailed.  The BTD is a great crime preventive!  

But anyhooo, my point is:  wheat throws the Type O hormonal balance into chaos.  So if you are in any way "hormone balance challenged" to start with (like prone to PMS, or going through menapausal hormone changes, etc.), STAY AWAY FROM THE STUFF, big time.


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Quoted from Peppermint Twist

Wheat does terrible things to Type O hormone balance.  I haven't touched the stuff knowingly in many, MANY years now, but how well I remember--and, if I accidently ingest even a speck, I get a reminder--what monstrous PMS mood/temperament symptoms it triggers.  And at ANY time of the month, if you are an O and eat wheat, for many of us it will trigger PMS-like mood symptoms:  feelings of dread, bursts of rage, bursting into tears, etc.  The stuff is not meant for us.  Yet it is everywhere in our food supply.  If I weren't on the BTD, I would have probably been long-since jailed.  The BTD is a great crime preventive!  

But anyhooo, my point is:  wheat throws the Type O hormonal balance into chaos.  So if you are in any way "hormone balance challenged" to start with (like prone to PMS, or going through menapausal hormone changes, etc.), STAY AWAY FROM THE STUFF, big time.


Hey PT - thanks for chiming in!!!    I haven't had any wheat for 8 days not... (8 days of clean eating!! yay!)... BUT the Teff bread I'm eating has one small avoid - cornstarch.  (:    I'm asking them to reformulate the recipe and they said they will work with it in the fall... I just don't have alot of time to make up a bread but I may try if this small amt of cornstarch is causing me to hotflash worse!

I'm also still in the 'healing' phase and I know I will be for awhile.  I'm still achy and hurting and my strength is not quite like it should be.  I have about 80 lbs to loose and i'm only 8 full days in.  Not completely perfect but NO SUGAR and NO WHEAT.  I did have a few cucumbers the other day which are an AVOID and wow.. I did suffer from just a few slices... amazing how sensitive my body has become.  I'm sure my Gut damage is extensive.   But I'm now on the healing warpath!!!   
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Sweetum, 8 days is excellent yet it will take longer to realize the full detox from wheat, so hang in there.  Also, ditch the bread with cornstarch.  I use a 100% rye called French Meadows 100% rye w/flaxseed.  It is WONDERFUL and available in the freezer section of my health food store.  If you can't find that brand, and/or if you don't want any gluten-containing grain (remember:  rye contains gluten--it is neutral for O's but contains gluten, so if anyone is avoiding that for any reason, you need to know that), you can find some rice breads in your HFS freezer section, too.  btw, do NOT get the French Meadows brand rice bread, as it infuriatingly contains WHEAT (why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ).  But their rye is very pure of heart *lol*, containing only rye, flaxseed and sea salt, I think (I can't recall the exact ingredients, but I know that wheat is NOT one of them).

I don't bake my own bread, either--I am NOT a baker (you have to be precise and follow recipes...or at least do the former, i.e., be precise with measuring stuff...I'm an ARTISTE, I can't work like that *lol*!  I gotta be free to floooooooooooooooow in my creative process, unfettered!), so I long ago figured out what bread to buy *lol*.  Stick to the two r's:  rye and rice.  Just my opinion (I know people are into spelt around here--I am NOT:  to me it is just a kinder, gentler version of wheat, but it is still wheat...nein danke).


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well darn it!  I can't have rye and i hate to tell you this but I HATE it anyway!     sorry PT!!!   You had such a wonderful rant about it!!  ha ha...

i've tried soooo many gluten free breads and i'm not a fan of many.  plus there are so many with with or that avoid or several avoids!  this teff was the best yet with only one bad ingredient instead of several.  oh well.. on goes the search....
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well darn it!  I can't have rye and i hate to tell you this but I HATE it anyway!     sorry PT!!!   You had such a wonderful rant about it!!  ha ha...

You HATE rye?  I don't understand.  That does not compute.  How can anyone hate rye?  That is like hating cats or the Beatles, which some people do, yet I can't believe or understand it.  WEIRD!  
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i've tried soooo many gluten free breads and i'm not a fan of many.  plus there are so many with with or that avoid or several avoids!  this teff was the best yet with only one bad ingredient instead of several.  oh well.. on goes the search....

Well, that is true that many of your gluten-free breads are not really up to snuff, texture and/or taste-wise, AND a lot of brands contain avoids.  I have found a few brands with either no avoids or avoids that I considered minor ones for me personally.  However, I can't think of those brands off the top of my head, 'cause the only bread I've bought for years now is the French Meadows rye w/flax (and, alternately, if they are outta that at my HFS, I get the French Meadows sourdough rye, which is not as good as the rye w/flax...but it's okay).  My main staple grain is brown basmati rice, Lundberg brand, to be specific.  LOVE it!  You can do anything with it that you would do with pasta.


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You HATE rye?  I don't understand.  That does not compute.  How can anyone hate rye?  That is like hating cats or the Beatles, which some people do, yet I can't believe or understand it.  WEIRD!  




ha ha well it's like some people dislike brussel sprouts or anything else..   I really dislike rye alot!! can't even smell it!!!    ha ha...  so I guess i;m missing out but I can't help it!  I HATE olives too!!!    

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Well, that is true that many of your gluten-free breads are not really up to snuff, texture and/or taste-wise, AND a lot of brands contain avoids.  I have found a few brands with either no avoids or avoids that I considered minor ones for me personally.  However, I can't think of those brands off the top of my head, 'cause the only bread I've bought for years now is the French Meadows rye w/flax (and, alternately, if they are outta that at my HFS, I get the French Meadows sourdough rye, which is not as good as the rye w/flax...but it's okay).  My main staple grain is brown basmati rice, Lundberg brand, to be specific.  LOVE it!  You can do anything with it that you would do with pasta.


yes I don't do alot of bread really nor alot of rice.  i do more almond flour lately.  But when i do pasta it's always rice pasta.  

Spelt is not an avoid my Swami so I occasionally have spelt flour.  i made a wonderful spelt flour pie crust last week and did not have a reaction.

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Spelt is not an avoid my Swami so I occasionally have spelt flour.  i made a wonderful spelt flour pie crust last week and did not have a reaction.

Well, is it possible it could be contributing to your hot flashes by impacting your hormone balance?  Even though it is not an avoid on your Swami, you might want to try eliminating the spelt for a while and see if your hot flashes diminish.  


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The cornstarch in that teff bread is a concern, too, hormone impact-wise.  Sorry to be such a buzz kill.  


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yah.. the pie is gone.  been gone for a couple of days... next time i'm going to use an almond flour for the crust and see.  the cornstarch.. yes it might be....

i have an appt with my naturalpath tomorrow to see if she wants to run hormone level testing. she knows how to do it right.  hard to find someone who really knows what they are doing these days and with hormones.. one has to be careful!  
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In my humble opinion, since you are experiencing wicked hot flash symptoms that are really bothering you, you need to jettison ALL wheat and corn in your diet, as well as any "junky" ingredients that might be in anything you typically eat.  Those are the things to be really strict on.  Also, I don't know if you drink coffee, but if so, you may want to switch to green tea (coffee can really mess with Type O's systems, including with our blood sugar and hormones like cortisol).  Again, sorry to be such a buzz kill/Stricty McStrictypuss, but wheat and corn, especially, have got to go.  I'm glad you've been off all wheat for 8 days--good job and keep it going!  


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The cornstarch in that teff bread is a concern, too, hormone impact-wise.  Sorry to be such a buzz kill.  


I imagine that high compliancy would be your best ally in the MP battle. The detox process might be adding to your discomfort as well, but worth it in the long term. Corn products and wheat are probably the 2 things where you absolutely must maintain 100% compliance.  Maybe sugar as well.

And I think spelt may only be appropriate when the gut is healed. It's a bennie for me, but leads to bloating and a feeling of general malaise just like wheat used to.

Just saw PT's post modification, so....ditto  

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Hi All.. just talked with my wonderful natural path and she recommended this cream.  The reviews are stellar!

I can't wait to try it!  

http://www.pureformulas.com/ostadermv-118-2oz-by-bezwecken.html#sthash.4OEPzwQh.dpbs
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