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Nomad maybe
Thursday, December 27, 2012, 5:10am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I've been gluten free for about three weeks now. Well, I think I'm gluten free. I'm not completely sure about the oats. But I'm still severely bloating and have seen absolutely no weight loss. How long does it take to see some result? I'm a B+ sec. and as best as I can tell, I'm a Nomad.
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try this quiz

find out where and why the weight won t shift

http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp


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I've been gluten free for about three weeks now. Well, I think I'm gluten free. I'm not completely sure about the oats. But I'm still severely bloating and have seen absolutely no weight loss. How long does it take to see some result? I'm a B+ sec. and as best as I can tell, I'm a Nomad.


Watch your stress levels.

Bloating and gas = correcting gut flora hopefully. Otherwise maybe some indigestion from say eating the wrong cheese.

Do you get things in diet that help with metabolism? Omega 3s?
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Thursday, December 27, 2012, 5:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I've been gluten free for about three weeks now. Well, I think I'm gluten free. I'm not completely sure about the oats. But I'm still severely bloating and have seen absolutely no weight loss. How long does it take to see some result? I'm a B+ sec. and as best as I can tell, I'm a Nomad.


I had to give up oats as well because I was getting the same symptoms. A lot of celiacs can't tolerate oat protein because it's so similar to wheat, rye and barley protein.

Also, I was losing weight without trying when I gave up gluten and oats. When I gave up glute but still ate oats, I didn't lose any weight.
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It varies. Some people have amazing results after only a few days, while others have more subtle results that take months before you realize "Wow- I haven't had that symptom in a while."

I personally have symptoms for a month after accidental wheat ingestion- so still feeling sick after 3 weeks sounds like "not long enough yet" to me. OTOH, digestive symptoms are usually the first things to clear up when you change your diet. If you're not seeing results by now, you may need to change something. Perhaps there's still something in your diet that you shouldn't be eating (such as oats, or gluten contamination in other foods, or something else altogether different in your diet.) It's also possible that your diet is already fine, but you need some supplements to heal your gut.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Thanks for all the suggestions. I think the going without oats may be my best next step  
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Thank you, Lola, the quiz was helpful.
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Mayflowers, do you use the other grains with out a problem, like rice, almond flour, millet, quinoa?  
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Takes 6 months to get wheat out of the body probably longer for some.


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Takes 6 months to get wheat out of the body probably longer for some.


Uh I don't know about that long... More like that long to recover enough to not feel the affects from what it did to you.
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6 months to get it out of the system-- not sure why that sounds unreasonable to you DoS?


the gut is easily offended by lectins and takes time to regenerate.

Told to me by a very good source


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My previous blood allergy tests show other offending foods. Some of them correlate with the BTD and many do not. I'm wondering if I stay gluten and oat free, if over time, the other foods won't be such a problem. Appears I'm super sensitive. Last night no grains, yet blew up like a balloon with stomach and liver ache all night and into today. Garlic shows up on every blood test as offending. I just realized oats does also. I had both yesterday.

I'm B+, and according to the BTD I should be able to handle dairy and do really well with it. But it causes my tongue to swell and my throat to close off. So I actually have an epi pen for that. With my study yesterday, I have come to realize dairy also has lectins. It appears all foods do, with some food families being more toxic to individuals than others.

I've been to every kind of doctor. Most recently my GI specialist said he doesn't think he is smart enough to figure it out. That's why I went to the BTD, just to try to see if it would help. Now I'm thinking I will do the BTD + add all the foods to avoid from former blood allergy tests. That doesn't leave much to eat . . .
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This information is quite well known, one fling with gluten and it takes six months for it to leave the system. That is why it is so important to be aware of not ingesting, unbeknown to ourselves,  'hidden' gluten.

Dr. D'Adamo does mention somewhere that it can take up to two years to heal from gluten damage.
I find that the Intrinsia, Polyflora and Deflect have fast forwarded my healing and I am so grateful for these supplements and my SWAMI.  
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Now I'm thinking I will do the BTD + add all the foods to avoid from former blood allergy tests. That doesn't leave much to eat . . .

My guess is that SWAMI, with the "allergy" indicated would be the best diet possible, but you may have to still limit some huge offenders...  Eat as much beneficial from your list, but remember that healing can cause crises as well, so everything that causes a reaction is not a problem...  Sometimes, we have to go through adversity to get better...


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Allergies work on a different mechanism than lectin damage, and food allergies are not factored into BTD, GTD, or SWAMI.

If you have an anaphylactic allergy to cow's milk protein, then it's unlikely you'll ever be able to safely consume cow's milk or products made from it. You may be able to tolerate ghee, if it's very pure and has no traces of protein. You may be able to tolerate dairy products made from the milk of other mammals, such as goat cheese, buffalo milk mozzarella, or sheep's milk yogurt. But try these other dairy products with extreme caution- it's very common for people allergic to one kind of dairy to be allergic to others as well.

There are all kinds of uncomfortable symptoms that can be part of a "healing crisis" such as gas or bloating, diarrhea, skin rashes or acne, fatigue, or general malaise. Having your throat close up is NOT on that list! "Healing crises" are uncomfortable but not dangerous.

Even though you're a Nomad, you may not be able to eat all the cheeses that are normally good for your type. If you're able to tolerate goat or sheep milk dairy, you can eat the recommended quantity of dairy without touching cow's milk products- but if you don't tolerate those either, then you'll just have to get your nutrients from other foods instead.

Your diet is already so limited- I'd suggest you go for a SWAMI at this point. It's less money than another visit to a specialist and all the tests he or she is likely to run (or not, depending on your insurance coverage.) Most people find that SWAMI gives them a wider range of foods than any of the "book diets" do. Why avoid "every food that most Bs have trouble with" when some of them might be OK for you?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I don't understand the SWAMI. Isn't it just another test for GTD? I see it is something to order online, or is there a trained individual who goes through all this with me to narrow it down?

No, I can't tolerate dairy products from goat or sheep.

I think some of my problem is due to genetics, but it was exasperated by my appendix rupturing five to seven days before I was operated on. My body was full of gangrene and there was no medical record of anyone living through the situation at the time. So this infection plays a huge part in my outcome today. It was after that I had problems with food. That was 40 years ago. I've been to one doctor after another--GI specialists, homeopathics, acupuncturists, etc. Nothing seems to work for very long.

Thank you for all your suggestions and help.
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I am using Deflect B and I ordered the Polyflora, but help me understand the Intrinsa. Is it the magnesium that is the needed ingredient there? Some of the other products I am using (or have ordered) have the Larch Arab. in them. Isn't that doubling up on the Larch Arab.?
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I don't understand the SWAMI. Isn't it just another test for GTD? I see it is something to order online, or is there a trained individual who goes through all this with me to narrow it down?

SWAMI is a computer program that you enter personal measurements and medical history for you and family and get a printout of a personalized diet that is a combination of your Genotype and Blood Type...  It is the best diet possible for you based on Dr. D.'s knowledge.

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I think some of my problem is due to genetics, but it was exasperated by my appendix rupturing five to seven days before I was operated on. My body was full of gangrene and there was no medical record of anyone living through the situation at the time. So this infection plays a huge part in my outcome today. It was after that I had problems with food. That was 40 years ago. I've been to one doctor after another--GI specialists, homeopathics, acupuncturists, etc. Nothing seems to work for very long.

This sounds like a tremendously traumatic event.  It is possible that this is the source of the "allergy" symptoms.

Have you tried following the Allergy Control protocol?

I use a technique that I've been taught that works very well to deal with these type sensitivities.  It requires that you know what is bothering you at the time, AND have or can obtain a sample of the substance...  PM me if you want more details.


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I found the Allergy Control Protocol. Thank you.
SWAMI still depends on the individual being accurate in doing the measurements. That is why I put Nomad Maybe as my name, because I was concerned that even after watching the video that I may have not measured correctly.
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I don't understand the SWAMI. Isn't it just another test for GTD? I see it is something to order online, or is there a trained individual who goes through all this with me to narrow it down?


SWAMI XP is available for those who prefer doing it themselves.

SWAMI GenoType is available:

From MIFHI practitioners in your area:

http://www.generativemedicine.org/ifhi/memberlist.pl

Or from students working under Dr. D'Adamo's supervision in the "Teaching Shift"

http://www.generativemedicine.org/healthcare/teaching_shift.shtml

Or from physicians at the Center of Excellence in Generative Medicine (Dr. D'Adamo or Dr. Colicci):

http://www.generativemedicine.org/healthcare/private_practice.shtml


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I like Swami for this .. It is always available on my computer adjusted for ME!.. very reassuring.

I have (personally) done some fooling around on it to see if it would change much when I entered this or that, but except for a few little changes it has stayed remarkably stable...  and I agree with all it is saying I should eat or do..

A quick check to my TEACHER Swami, my shopping list is foolproof.. love it.


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