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faithandjoy4
Friday, November 30, 2012, 12:34pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Good day, I am hoping for your thoughts. I have been trying to follow genotype for a long time as the theory behind it makes a lot of sense to me, however there are many foods even beneficial that it say I should eat that I know I can't, do to autoimmune issues, or allergies ie...all dairy including ghee, which i just tried again and got all my allergy sympotms back immediately, all grains gluten free or not, i have celiac...So I get a little a little confussed as to why so many foods he says I should eat I actually can't. I then decided to do swami which was even more off the mark...what are your thoughts on why this is the case for me? I see many on here have so much success, is my immune system just too damaged? Ps I have been unable to eat dairy in any form for years....
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Friday, November 30, 2012, 2:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I'm surprised that your swami gives you any diary or any grains with gluten or similar. mine doesn't.

Are you sure that you have completed the data correctly. have you thought about getting a practitioner to help just to be sure.

Many find that they are unable to eat a lot of stuff initially but that later they are able, this includes me, my daughter and my partner. it took us a couple of years to get better guts. but even we still have to be careful. I can'r see how old you are so I can't see how much damage is done but if coeliac then a while so it may take a while for you.

I still only have rice once a week, and quinoa twice a week and I'm not a coeliac. sound to be as if you need to fix the problem a bit more, it also sounds like you have Crohn's perhaps to be so sensitive to grains, in which case some find it better to do no grain at all, although I'm not sure if Dr D would agree with that.

do you have other health issue like pain anywhere?

the protein in milk is very similar to gluten as is soy apparently so you should avoid these but most O's do anyway. why not make a list of what you eat over a period of time, post it here and see what people comment. they are very helpful on here with things like that. just know that it is all constructive, even the criticism. the more detail you give the better. personally if if I was within a few hundred miles of Dr D I would walk there to see him and not eat to raise the money for a consultation, god know my stomach could do with a fast . assuming NYC is near him why not make a plan to see him. everyone is always glad they did.


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ruthiegirl
Friday, November 30, 2012, 2:37pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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If SWAMI was "off the mark" then it's my guess that something was entered incorrectly into the software. Some of the measurements may have been wrong, skewing the results. Are you 100% sure that you're a secretor? If you have the SWAMI Xpress (the kind where you put in the data yourself) try running it as a non-secretor, and see if the resulting food list makes any more sense to you.

SWAMI isn't designed to address actual food allergies. If you get any "beneficial" or "neutral" foods that are known allergens, simply don't eat those foods. If it gives you foods that you have an "intolerance" to, it's more complex. Sometimes foods encourage healing, and healing isn't always comfortable.

Your best bet, though, is to be evaluated by a naturopath who can prescribe supplements and run a SWAMI pro at the same visit. You may need some supplements to heal your gut- food alone isn't always enough for healing.  It looks like you live in NYC, so the Williamsburg center shouldn't be too far away from you. If you can afford it, making an appointment with one of the NDs there would help you a lot. There's also  The Shift in CT, which isn't all that far away from NYC either. That's less expensive but harder to schedule.

AndreaAWS is on Long Island and can also give you a SWAMI pro, but it won't be part of a full ND exam. You can trust that the SWAMI is accurate and all the measurements are done correctly, but she may not be able to resolve all your health issues the way an ND can.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Andrea AWsec
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Why not visit the Brooklyn location and talk with Dr. Levy or Dr. D'Adamo?

Sometimes we just need fixing that is deeper then SWAMI.

I see that you talk about what you can't eat-- but SWAMI has so many foods that I can't imagine that you can't find some foods that work.
Lola is a great one for getting to basics-- bone broth, fermented foods all strengthen the body-- not sure why so much emphasis on dairy?


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Lola
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your gut need fixing.....

once you do that, all will fall into place

take it one day at a time.....be consistent, patient and start a food log, to help guide you


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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D.L.
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FaithandJoy4 - There are a number of foods listed as beneficial or neutral on my Swami that I am allergic to. I just don't eat those. I eliminate everything that skin tests, IgG4 blood tests, and experience show that I have bad reactions to. For now I am trying to heal my gut. After that perhaps I can have some of those foods on a rotation diet... (except gluten, gliadin, eggs, soy, sunflower and dairy... my worst offenders).  
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faithandjoy4
Friday, November 30, 2012, 7:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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thank you all for the help, I feel better to know I am not the only one who has issues with fod that are suppose to be good for us..  Andrea, I was just mentioning dairy as an example, I was trying to figure out why so many foods are suppose to be good for me but my body says they are not...I do eat lots of great food. and agree we have lots of other great choices.
Thanks Lola I will get back to the food journaling it did help alot...
again thank you all
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Lin
Saturday, December 1, 2012, 12:16am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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faithandjoy4,
You are not alone. Many of us have foods we react to that are on our beneficial list which shows our gut needs healing.  Once the healing happens it is possible to slowly re-introduce some of the foods.
Good luck,
Lin


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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To expect the lists to perfectly fit you as an individual is unrealistic. Dr. D would have to know every gene- and understand every gene- and every food effect. He would also need to know where you were at physiologically on a moment to moment basis.

Soooo, close enough is good enough. Listen to your body. If you have food sensitivities or allergies AVOID those foods, then when you are well you can see about reintroducing and rotating.

I don't care if I never eat gluten again (though the addictive portion of my brain says otherwise). As celiac- NO GLUTEN, probably no oats either. And you best be looking at casein- it mimics gluten (or wheat?) in molecule shape. Don't get in the habit of overeating any one food. Rotate your foods.

I've also heard some hearsay that the folks that have more birthdays may do better on BTD than GTD.

I think a SWAMI done ***by a pro*** for your individual issues is superior.

If your gut is letting though molecules it shouldn't- gluten is probably not the only issue. Did you have IgG and IgE testing done? After you heal your gut, you potentially get back IgG foods. Maybe your info is what would be best AFTER your gut heals.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Lola knows best

Check out the GAPS diet


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