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Goldie
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I have over the last few Months played with many reasons for taking Magnesium.. Those who followed my other threads, know that I found it helped my headaches which I got daily .. and then learned that they were stemming from self aggravated stress - which centers in my neck and then constricts whatever - until I get a 6 hour headache..

Then, I read that Magnesium might help the muscles and I found that (Milk of) Magnesium really did the trick.. The taste of it after a while is so vile after a while, that I now looked for other forms of absorbing Magnesium.. (interestingly- I never got diarrhea from it, no matter how much I took.)

I bought MagneGel from my DO.. and I have seen great results..

A few days ago, I snapped my lower back by bending the wrong way, I applied a few drops of the gel and within a few hours on my heating pad felt fine again.. the same for other areas where muscles where involved.. IT SEEMS TO BE THE ANSWER of the day!!

I am going to buy several bottles and give it to all in my family with recurring headaches.. a few drops at first before a shower on the neck might work for all to reduce the headaches.. one can also place a little on the lower back or belly.. or legs for muscle cramps..

THE BIGGEST place I think it ought to be used is BEFORE AND AFTER exercises.. !!!!!!!

I am going to have someone test it to see if it will help with shin splints, plantarfaciitis, and shoulder issues..

I will report back..

NOW to the real reason I think this warrants a separate Thread..

Two of my nieces have had injuries in their late 40tis.. they tore their Hamstrings.. one 2 the other 3 needing surgery..

I now feel that it is possible that we ALL suffer- you and I and all - from not enough absorb-able magnesium.. there are few foods that contain it, and just maybe it is the Mineral that is needed for muscle health.. (I would add Manganese as well, as that has helped me many times and B vitamins for sport oriented people, or those with cramps... especially with heavier running and or other stress exercises, I think it is worth looking at, getting some means to have the body absorb the minerals AS PREVENTION of injuries..

Comments are more then welcome..    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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Interesting observations, Goldie! Keep on reporting on the progress and further tests.



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Today I woke up and decided to give myself a rub with the Magnesium gel.. I rubbed the shoulders and arms instead of just applying the gel.. what was interesting is that it felt good to be touched in that stronger way.. gently with my own strong hands, it felt like awakening my muscles.. worth a try..

I think, tooo often we just apply some slippery cream and never really move any tissue on the outer layers and deeper inside.  I think it is worth a try.. I seem to have a lot less pain the last few days, but I also expect that to have been from the Dr's visit in which he did trigger point releases..

But one thing is near certain that I have no headaches any more.. and if i would get the neck tension, I can apply some of the gel and have mayor HOPE!  



A friend who is ill with many labels.. serious ones.. she by comparison is on 5 different pain killers.. all together they make her more tired then she is, and make her think she is even more sick then she might be....  IF doctors would FEED the body what it may need instead of chemicals.. what a difference that could make????? !!!

I was one of those who had taken many more then 9000 Tylenol, until I cam across Ligaplex ll (standard process) which contains Manganese, and Vit B 12 ..  That experience was my first one successfully getting rid of pain.. later it turned out that I had/have a greater need for that then some other people might.. OR and that is what I think chemical pills MIGHT do.. my body needs where not met, and by taking chemical pain killers MY CONDITION got worse.. self perpetuating.. the cycle..

I am soooo grateful that I found a better and so much cheaper way to help ME!

We need to be our own detective, and we need to help our selves to things that may work for us.



For instance I have offered help to many for pain, painless, over the phone, and have had great results.. and yet some who received the same offer, never even tried it.. I mean how in my mind selfish is that?  Why complain if not willing to take some experience to heart? why look for a pill when maybe there are other better ways to make a break through? The cost of some time and or a phone call?  in todays world I can even pay for a call.. and still people rather suffer.. it makes me wonder..    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I use the topical magnesium oil, all over my body. I try to use it daily, but sometimes life gets in the way.


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I've been using topical magnesium oil on and off for years.  I find it works well just to do a foot soak.
And works well for conditions like fibromyalgia.

The body absorbs what it needs. I noticed in some areas where I applied it topically every day, like on
arms and legs, my skin would get dry. I think it means I wasn't fully hydrated.

WOW Goldie, oral milk of magnesia didn't give you diarrhea...You had to be very deficient in magnesium.

there should be a lot of old threads on magnesium and mag oil.
http://www.bing.com/search?cp=1252&FORM=FREESS&q=magnesium&q1=site%3Adadamo.com


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thanks for the links..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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There is a whole book written on the benefits of magnesium, The Magnesium Miracle by Carolyn Dean, http://www.amazon.com/Magnesiu.....ds=magnesium+miracle.

Your body uses it in so many processes and many people are deficient.

I've been taking an ionic version by Mineralife for my migraines and it has helped tremendously.  I used to take magnesium gluconate but it never did anything.

It never occurred to me to use it for other things but I will see if the oil will help dissolve the scar tissue at old surgery sites.  


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Some of us need more magnesium than others. For example, people with Fibromyalgia (like me) seem to need more than the general population. Using the magnesium oil on my entire body, several times a week, seems to be needed- when I cut down, muscle pains come back.


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This was written by Adam Abraham's blog..He always speaks about transdermal mag. Just found it interesting.  http://phaelosopher.com/2007/09/10/understanding-magnesium-replenishment-transdermally/

Understanding Magnesium Replenishment Transdermally

The world is waking up to a new form of magnesium replenishment on the strength of the book, Transdermal Magnesium Therapy, that is experiencing high pass along and word-of-mouth growth. As a concept, the term “replenishment” would be positioned as a step beyond supplementation. “Supplementation” presupposes that you are getting somewhere near adequate supplies from traditional nutritional sources, which for most of us are through food and beverages.

But that’s not the case.

We’re not getting enough magnesium; not nearly enough, and our health — in the form of a rising tide of chronic diseases, such as diabetes, stroke, heart disease, Autism, cancer, and even AIDS — is showing it. This is not to say that magnesium deficiency is the “cause” of all of these conditions, but it is a major factor in the ability for each to exist. The severity of the deficiency is directly related to the severity of the disease.

One other factor that is almost never considered with respect to “nutritional” intake, is the water we ingest, not by drinking, but that which is absorbed through the skin. While we fastidiously take measures to buy the best and sometimes expensive bottled waters and convince ourselves that we’re well protected, we take showers, baths, and wash dishes with waters that are often treated with chlorine and fluoride. Chlorine, which is used as a disinfectant in water treatment systems, produces carcinogenic byproducts in the human body. Fluorides are used in water and toothpaste. Both are members of the halogen family of elements, along with bromide. All have harmful effects, and are ingested without much thought given to the consequences.

Irrespective of how one came to be magnesium deficient, our state of health and well-being improves when magnesium levels are increased. To that end, replenishment is important, and as a concept, it is still new. Well, it’s not really new; our experience with it is.

Many of the people who are now talking about transdermal magnesium intake are only discussing it in the context of being something that you apply to an ache or pain, or for inflammation. While this is true, this level of communication yields behaviors that maintain deficiencies because it is only being applied when something “hurts.” When the critical role of magnesium as a foundational nutrient that can and will help the body produce DHEA master hormone plus over 325 enzymes on its own is fully appreciated, different behaviors will ensue. We will apply it even when we’re not hurting. This will improve the condition of our bones, flexibility of muscles, including the heart.

Magnesium naturally breaks down calcium deposits, which can build up in the arterial system, increasing blood pressure and causing blood clots. It does much more.

I spoke to a man the other day whose son has an extreme case of psoriasis. He gave his son some “magnesium oil” (actually contains no oil). When he applied it, it was like someone had put liquid fire on his back. He summarily put the magnesium down, and didn’t pick it up again.

What happened?

I told his dad that this is what happens when magnesium chloride encounters toxins, pathogens, or heavy metal deposits that have lodged themselves in skin tissue. The magnesium chloride solution — which tests have shown contain virtually no toxins or impurities — would cause no discomfort if applied to tissue areas that have no toxin or heavy metal buildup. Since magnesium works in ionic form, entering inside each cell, it is crucial that a sufficient supply of magnesium ions are available.

When they enter through the skin, they will encounter toxins where they reside. Sensations experienced can range from mild itching to wildly painful. I call it a “shootout at the OK corral.” If you know what’s happening, then you won’t put the magnesium down and forget about it. You can dilute it and reapply, or add it to bath water or a foot bath. You can also apply it to another part of the body that doesn’t react as dramatically.

Once the magnesium has entered the body, it will be carried to the place of greatest need, where the greatest benefit can be realized. As your levels get to normal — whatever that is for you — any discomfort that you may have experienced, will abate. All you need to know is that it’s critical to the restoration and maintenance of your health.


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Today might have been my first day where it was easy for me to go to the bathroom.. in fact I needed to respond rather suddenly..  Could a drop or two now be enough.. after all these weeks? Interesting..

I will read all the above a little later THANKS.  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Today might have been my first day where it was easy for me to go to the bathroom.. in fact I needed to respond rather suddenly..  Could a drop or two now be enough.. after all these weeks? Interesting..

I will read all the above a little later THANKS.  


Are you responding only from using magnesium oil or are you taking any magnesium orally?

If you have no aches and pains and your gut seems like it's functioning better, you could spray less often (a few times a week) or use less each time.  Either way.  You might have reached a saturation point and at this very moment have adequate magnesium...I often stop using it for a few days or a week and start again if I feel I'm showing signs of mag deficiency.  


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well as of last night I had a episode of pulse over 105.. I woke up and was able to reduce it with various meditative things.. (including using my ): http://www.ondamed.net
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The reason was that I had taken a (NAP) Mag supp and it was enough to FINALLY send me to the bathroom this morning.. great clean out, but now I might have needed some potassium..

Either way, I am doing the Mag gel one drop a day .. the reason I am feeling it is the way to go, is  that I have had this long time connection pain on my rotator cuff.. in fact I started to think I was tearing it.. I had the trigger point released last week that helped a lot, but using the Mag gel every day is definitely letting me use the rotator muscles down the arm longer before it spasms..

I also think it is my fix for the tension headaches that may well have been NOT tension but muscle weakness from lack of for now Magnesium.

I am coming to Believe that everyone who can not go to the bathroom easy and with ease, is needing this mineral.. It might be the fist warning that the intestines (muscles) are slowing down because they do not have the strength to move any longer.. It is worth a try to see how all this will work out..

Today my arm is NOT hurting ! that is a good thing.. all that I changed is the Magnesium and putting a pillow below my arm during the night..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Here's another question about Magnesium oil. I use it daily, it has really helped my tight hamstrings. I finally talked my husband into a nice soothing foot bath last night. He usually sleeps like a rock. Oddly enough , last night he was awake from around two to four am. Could it have been the mag.? Nothing else ws different, and he said he didn't have a "busy mind" or anything. I find Mag. Helps me sleep more soundly, so heis sleeplessness is weird. Any ideas?


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Here's another question about Magnesium oil. I use it daily, it has really helped my tight hamstrings. I finally talked my husband into a nice soothing foot bath last night. He usually sleeps like a rock. Oddly enough , last night he was awake from around two to four am. Could it have been the mag.? Nothing else ws different, and he said he didn't have a "busy mind" or anything. I find Mag. Helps me sleep more soundly, so heis sleeplessness is weird. Any ideas?


Here's what mag oil can do.....and I suspect it gave your husband energy while it relaxes you.
His body might have taken up the mag oil rapidly.  I got this info from the link below so excuse the caps. I just cut and pasted for quick review of info.

http://www.integratedhealth.com/hpdspec/magnesium-oil.html

MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE (MgCl2)
SOME BENEFITS / APPLICATIONS
INCREASES ENERGY BY GREATER PRODUCTION OF
ATP (ADENOSINE TRIPHOSPHATE) IN CELLS

RELAXES MUSCLES / REDUCES MUSCLE TENSION

BOOSTS VITALITY, ENDURANCE, AND STRENGTH

IMPROVES CARDIOVASCULAR / HEART HEALTH
(RELAXES CARDIAC MUSCLE)

RELIEVES PAIN, INCLUDING CHRONIC PAIN

IDEAL FOR ARTHRITIS / FIBROMYALGIA / JOINT PAIN

IMPROVES HEALTH OF SKIN AND MUCOUS MEMBRANES

USE ORALLY FOR STRONG TEETH AND HEALTHY GUMS

EASES HEADACHES AND MIGRAINE HEADACHES

IN SPORTS MEDICINE — REPLENISHES MG LEVELS FOR ENERGY
(COMBATS FATIGUE, AND SOOTHES PAIN AND SORE MUSCLES)

TOTAL BODY TONIC — REVITALIZES AND REJUVENATES BODY
(PROVIDES RAPIDLY ABSORBED MG TO RESTORE LEVELS NEEDED FOR OPTIMAL CELL PHYSIOLOGY AND FUNCTION)

IMPROVES MOOD AND REDUCES STRESS

INCREASES MEMORY AND COGNITIVE FUNCTIONS

BOOSTS IMMUNE SYSTEM

IMPROVES ASSIMILATION OF CALCIUM / BUILDS STRONGER BONES

  BALANCES CALCIUM AND MAGNESIUM LEVELS IN CELLS

PROVEN ANTIMICROBIAL AND ANTISEPTIC

RAISES DHEA (DEHYDROEPIANDROSTERONE) LEVELS NATURALLY

EASES MENOPAUSE AND PREMENSTRUAL SYNDROME (PMS)

SUPPORTS HEALTHY LIBIDO (AND ENDOCRINE SYSTEM)

ANTI-AGING, REJUVENATING, REVITALIZING

KEEPS CELL MEMBRANES FLEXIBLE

CONTROLS CHOLESTEROL PRODUCTION AND PREVENTS OVERPRODUCTION OF CHOLESTEROL IN THE BODY

REGULATES BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS / NEEDED FOR INSULIN PRODUCTION, TRANSPORT, AND FUNCTION IN CELLS

SUPPORTS ANTIOXIDANT SYSTEMS


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My sister uses the oil she loves it, and she even turned her husband on to the oil when he has panic attacks it works in minutes.  I take it orally about 325 mg a day.  I was watching Dr. Oz the other day and he said that if you have 'anxiety' that you are deficient in magnesium.
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Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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UPDATE 4 AM:   I was so hoping that I am able to report that my headaches are gone.. but so far all I can do is make them go away without pills within one hour of onset with all things I am trying.. any form of Magnesium in whatever form I have tried.. to no avail..... I still get them again and again.. Today is a day/night of it in which I got 4 different headaches spread over the last 24 hours ..    

But still I credit Trehalose Complex for at least allowing me to 'separate' the headache from its cause.. the muscle tension in my neck - as I would say for no darn reason - but clearly tense for whatever!!..  

BUT MY SHOULDER PAIN is diminished by 90% by Magnesium gel.. ..


so my search goes on..     I guess it could be worse.. the movies this night where fab..

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My sister uses the oil she loves it, and she even turned her husband on to the oil when he has panic attacks it works in minutes.  I take it orally about 325 mg a day.  I was watching Dr. Oz the other day and he said that if you have 'anxiety' that you are deficient in magnesium.

As a suplement or a pill?  from NAP?  I have some and will give them to a friend for anxiety..

.. or I will take them for my head.. again .. hope never dies..

UPdate 8.30 am: I am duplicating this just for my sake.. ......
hundreds of time!!


MY headaches are from stress muscle contracting of blood vessels / compressing my neck functions.. ;; and then  
not CONVERTING bloood into downward Lymph fluid fast enough..

I am so sensitive to stress..

I got up at 8 am today and was fine after finally sleeping for 3 hours...

then I called a fried to ask him to help with something and he is willing by Saturday or Sunday.. all is well but..... I could feel tension rising in my NECK within seconds of not GETTING 100% of what I wanted..   HOW AWFUL stupid is that!  It is nothing.. but my body REACTS!!!!!!

SO NOW a few minutes after I can feel all my upper back muscles contracting for telling of getting ready to cause me another headache..  I am going to use the Magnesium Gel and take 2 Ligaplex ll with Manganese!!! this will be helpful.. but IT IS SOOOOOOOOOOO aggravating.. I feel so powerless over MY OWN BODY..


The only good thing is that I finally figure this out!!!!!! it is not a brain tumor! IT is my nerve fibers over EACTING!!!



  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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