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robertaangelina
Monday, July 23, 2012, 8:04pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi...I just discovered the Geno type diet over the weekend and bought the book and did all the measuring etc, like three times...and I was an Explorer according to the Intermediate Testing Calculator ...I did it twice and got the same outcome. Then I decided to see if the Advanced Calculator could possibly change things. I don't know if I am a Secreter or a Non Secreter but when I followed the instructions (using chart 1) I discovered I was a Teacher either way since I am a woman. OMG!!! This is an extremely different list of foods, many opposite....same items can be diamonds on one list and avoids on the other??? I need some reassurance that the SWAMI will give me the real truth about what I should and should not avoid...but I am also seeing some posts where people can change one item and it changes everything???? Is that true? HELP???
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Monday, July 23, 2012, 8:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi.

Don't obsess over foods changing. The SWAMI will give you the diet most likely to be best for you, the individual, based on the inputs provided.

That may be nearly the same or quite different than the generic "Teacher" diet. Either way the Teacher diet is the best diet for you without going through a SWAMI.

There is no perfect diet. SWAMI is the best you can get in my opinion. The generic GenoType diets in the book work quite well for most people.
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Don't worry! Everything's fine  
The Explorer diet and the Teacher diet are very different and so are the food values, admittedly, a tough idea to grasp if you've been a believer/follower of the Blood Type Diet for a while.
If you plan to invest in a SWAMI, you will need to know your secretor status, it's a very important bit of information. Approx 15% of your foods will have a different value depending on your secretor status!
SWAMI is a remarkable system - it takes all of your uncertainty out of the equation and automatically calculates a diet specifically for you.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody on these forums who has regretted their SWAMI purchase. The only instances that I can think of is if there is a particular food that may end up on your 'Avoid" list that you absolutely refuse to give up and end up disgruntled towards the whole concept. I've seen that happen... But if you trust the research of the experts and scientists and are willing to believe what they tell you, you can't go wrong with SWAMI


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Take a deeeeeeep breath.  Are you struggling with some health issues?  Are you just wanting to lose weight?  

This is my experience.  I think it's really good to follow BTD (blood type diet).  I think the Genotype is a better diet.  However, some of us fall into some strange areas.  As an AB, my swami looked more like the lists in BTD.  The GTD book diets are fine, but they're not as good as a swami, imho.  But what will REALLY help you is learning WHY.  Or at least reading the book and getting a small grasp on it.  I would read any of the profiles that pertain to you, plus the others in time.  And the rest of the book of course.  Plus, it would be good to read Live Right for you Type.  I think GTD is a better, more advanced diet.

If you ARE an explorer, and you're an A, a swami would be a very good idea.  It puts you in that weird area.  A's and AB's have a tenancy to have lower stomach acid and are supposedly better off on less meat.  According to BTD.  Well, my swami gives me as much or more meat than some O's and B's.  Why?  I'm not sure. Except that some genotypes like explorers (which you could be) do better with more meat.  I have a LOT of explorer in me.    I had avoided red meat for a while, because of the BTD.  And my own fears about it.  And because my gut wasn't working real well.  But now that I eat it more, I do better.  I think it helps my immune system.

But one thing is for sure, with ALL of these diets, it's a process.  Things will change, and then you might get to a point where it settles down.  Or if you find something that works.  And it's all a process.  My BTD/GTD lists have changed a lot.  But they all seemed to be what I needed at the time I was on them.  Plus, it just gets you thinking about eating good food.  And that's never a bad thing.

Here was my evolution in diet lists:

I was on the:

A diet (because I didn't type myself and assumed I was an A because my Mom said she thought that's what I was)
AB diet (because I typed myself and found out I wasn't just an A)
AB fatigue protocol
GTD nomad (briefly)
GTD teacher (Quite a while)
Then I got swami.
And on swami I was a Teacher, then Explorer, now I've got it down to Nomad.  Which I've been following for almost a year now and seems to work.  

Reading the book will help you understand what works and what doesn't and maybe why.  And we are all individuals, so you have to take that into account.  SWAMI is GREAT.  It's probably the best diet out there, but there's no way a computer program can know you better than you.  

It's all OK though.  Enjoy the journey.  Maybe keep a food journal.  But more than likely it will all help in the long run, so you can relax.  It won't happen overnight.  

God bless you and keep us posted.  

And oh yeah, I recommend getting your secretor status done.  Probably before you get a swami.  


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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SWAMI is an incredible tool. With it, you can eat well for life, and tweak things if your medical needs change over time.

It's not cheap, but it's a bargain for what it gives you. I see it as an investment in your personal health. If you didn't have the money to invest right now, then I can fully understand that and I could help you figure out which diet (Teacher or Explorer or type A diet) would best suit you right now.  But now that the money's invested, consider it well spent.

Until SWAMI arrives and you get it all filled out, continue following whichever diet you currently have the house stocked for. There's no need to go change your diet drastically (to follow a DIFFERENT diet from a book) when the personalized SWAMI is on the way.

What has your diet been like up until now? Had you already implemented the Explorer diet when you re-checked yourself against the Advanced Calculator, or had you not yet started? Were you on the Blood Type Diet before that?

It can't hurt you to eat more veggies and beans and cut back on meat (modest portions of fish and poultry are fine.) Start cutting out any foods that are "avoid" no matter which diet you're looking at.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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follow ONE set of food suggestions and as you learn a great deal more then things get more interesting, .. one diet at a time is good enough for learning the basics .. all the best and welcome..


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Quoted from JJR


Then I got swami.
And on swami I was a Teacher, then Explorer, now I've got it down to Nomad.  Which I've been following for almost a year now and seems to work.  


It might be helpful to Robertaangelina if you clarify why you went from Teacher to Explorer to Nomad in your SWAMI.  This seems to be one of her concerns:
"I need some reassurance that the SWAMI will give me the real truth about what I should and should not avoid...but I am also seeing some posts where people can change one item and it changes everything???? Is that true? HELP???"



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ABJoe
Monday, July 23, 2012, 11:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from robertaangelina
I need some reassurance that the SWAMI will give me the real truth about what I should and should not avoid...but I am also seeing some posts where people can change one item and it changes everything???? Is that true? HELP???

It is possible that 1 measurement will change SWAMI outcome in a major way, but I have seen the opposite.  Once I got SWAMI, the percentage has changed a bit, but the Genotype family has stayed NOMAD no matter what I changed.  When the measurement video first came out, I realized I had done the leg ratio incorrectly - but there was very little difference in the outcome.  

You just never know in what ways input changes will change the output.


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I have a feeling with heavier people, as the fat goes down and off the body, the measuring may change and that is why the difference in the types on the swami. Right now if I look at my fingers my ring fingers look longer then my index fingers, I haven't measured yet, but that may make me a hunter.  Lost 145 lbs now.
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Take a deeeeeeep breath.


My thoughts exactly. This post reminds me of myself a few years ago.



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GS........145#.....................awesome!


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enjoy the magical mystery tour!!!

we are all here to help you out.....take it one step at a time


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Quoted from geminisue
I have a feeling with heavier people, as the fat goes down and off the body, the measuring may change and that is why the difference in the types on the swami. Right now if I look at my fingers my ring fingers look longer then my index fingers, I haven't measured yet, but that may make me a hunter.  Lost 145 lbs now.


geminisue....you've lost 145 pounds?  OMG.....What an awesome accomplishment....WOW  
Has Eric interviewed you for his film?



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Quoted from geminisue
Right now if I look at my fingers my ring fingers look longer then my index fingers, I haven't measured yet, but that may make me a hunter.  Lost 145 lbs now.


Fingers can look longer and shorter on a glance because the palm is curved so they all do not start at the same point.

This is why measuring is so important and not just looking.



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Quoted from geminisue
Lost 145 lbs now.

Congratulations!!! Well done


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33% Nomad, calories calories!!!!!!
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Quoted from Victoria


It might be helpful to Robertaangelina if you clarify why you went from Teacher to Explorer to Nomad in your SWAMI.  This seems to be one of her concerns:
"I need some reassurance that the SWAMI will give me the real truth about what I should and should not avoid...but I am also seeing some posts where people can change one item and it changes everything???? Is that true? HELP???"



Mine changed from minor things.  Mostly a few of the health issues I would update and it changed it.  Andric or Neutral legs changes it, and when I put in lactose intolerance, that changed it.  All of my measurements stayed the same, as I had a pretty good handle on those when I did it originally.  So...  little things can change your Genotype.  It didn't change my food lists drastically though.  When I was a teacher, I got less meat.


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Wow GS- that's an amazing weight loss!

I've previously answered the "why do people change genotypes on SWAMI" question  on another thread.  I see it's on a sub-forum that's not available to newbies, so I'm going to copy and paste that information here instead of providing a link.

Quoted from ruthiegirl
We're all unique individuals. GTD divides us up into 6 different categories. Some of us fit really well into one category. Some of us don't seem to fit into any of the categories well, while some of us seem to fit into several all at once.

SWAMI takes into account lots of information about you, and computes a diet just for you. Genotype labeling is part of the computational process,  but in the end it's not very important. My SWAMI diet plan varies widely from the Gatherer plan in the book, but interestingly it's not all that different from Goldie's diet plan, as we're both O nonnie Gatherers with some of the same health issues (diabetes and arthritis.) My food list is closer to Goldie's (whom I've only met online) than it is to my own daughter's, who' an O, assumed secretor, Explorer. So that label does have some value in finding somebody with a similar food list to swap recipes and eating tips with.

Then there are people like Henriette who see their "genotype label" change when she changes some of the input data. That's because she's already straddling 3 different types; she never fit particularly well into any one of them. It's like she's standing on the border and takes one step to the east, and she's in ExplorerLand. Then she takes one step north and enters Gathererland. Move a little to the southwest and she's in Nomadland. Meanwhile I'm standing in the middle of Gathererland and I could move a few steps in any direction and never get anywhere near the borders with Hunterland or Explorerland. It's not that her whole outlook on life changes when she changes genotypes; it's just that she's already showing characteristics of all 3 types, and the genotype label changes when she needs to emphasize one health issue rather than another. My SWAMI is just as sensitive to changes in the input data and refining my food lists, even though the label does not change.

If you find yourself switching from Nomad to Gatherer, that means that you've always had those "Gatherer Traits" in you; they were just overshadowed by the "Nomad Traits." Once you've healed some of the "nomad problems" some of the "gatherer problems" may become higher priorities to heal next.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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robertaangelina
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Wow! Thank you ALL so much for taking the time to answer my pitiful post. I am feeling so much better now about having ordered SWAMI. Actually I'm so excited I can hardly wait to get it!!! I have been following the Teacher food lists (well today was my first real day) and I will continue unless and until SWAMI tells me differently. I will let you all know when it arrives and I get the results. Again, thank you ALL so so  much! It's so nice to know there is such great support here. I'm sure I will be back for more really soon .  

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Geminisue!!!! congrats.. no wonder your diabetes is so much better..

I lost as much but I always gain again.. but I did drop 50 and am going for 20 more over the next decade.. ha ha  .. I wish to be healthy when I die..  

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As for weighloss and Swami.. I tricked it and reduced me by 50 pounds and it made no difference at all.. I am Gatherer.. and now I know why I suffer hunger, even when I don't, I gain even when I watch it, I am Gatherer.. now I understand who I am.. OK the next lifetime I am coming back as????  

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As for doing this BTD SWAMI and all inbetween.. the more you cool it- mentally, stay with basic beneficials - or better, then you are just fine no matter what.. you will feel healthy enough to take on the world.. which is a good feeling.  Stay the course..  

This is a life time journey.. never to arrive.. for arriving goes 6 feet under.. Feeling good is for generations to come.. to see and admire.. (that from a person who was in big pain for 68 YEARS!    got rid of belly pain at 32, got rid of back pain at 63, got rid of daily 6 hour headaches last month!!!!   Could I ask for more??? What would that be? You tell me


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Quoted from robertaangelina
I will continue unless and until SWAMI tells me differently.

Your food values wiill be quite a bit different once you get your SWAMI up and running, so you may not want to stock up on anything just yet And as you continue to feed it information about yourself as you discover more things, your food values will/may continue to fine tune. Don't fret  - it's all part of the process...
Hang on and enjoy the ride  


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Thanks Everyone!  No, Eric doesn't know.as far as I know.  Ruthie thank you that copy and paste helps a lot. and Andrea I will measure soon.  I'm going to remeasure my legs, also.  My body seems so different.  I can actually feel my hip bones. lol

Went from a size 34W or 4X, down to a 12/14W size dresses.  I actually wear shorts again.  I was in my twenties last time I did that.  I go shopping with a smile now. Things fit. lol
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Thanks Everyone!  No, Eric doesn't know.as far as I know.


Eric made a request for people to get in touch with him for his movie.  Just sharing in case you're interested.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1337839086/



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