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jtw
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I am hoping the author might pop in and answer this one...

So, I am O type.  Apparently we have problems with blood clotting?  I don't seem to have this problem.  When I bleed it stops within a reasonable amount of time..  But according to the book O types have blood clotting issues.  So..  Ok, so I have been taking magnesium supplements for quite a number of years, it's good for stress and good for the blood and heart. And it is an essential mineral for calcium absorption.  So, ok, I see that we are supposed to eat foods high in calcium or take supplements. But in order to get that to absorb we need magnesium.  Why do I bring this up? Because Magnesium actually thins out the blood.  I'm not a doctor, but I would suspect that thinner blood is more difficult to clot, no?  I know before surgery you're not supposed to take a lot of it because yeah you will bleed more.  

So..  Should I keep taking it?  Or....?

In addition, I seldom take calcium at the moment, but sometimes I do, and of course I take magnesium with it.    But my question above is more about just taking magnesium as a standalone.  I take Magnesium citrate, and anywhere from about 300 to 600mg a day. It's not stable, it's in power form and I don't really measure it out.


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how about you look into the cardio vascular book from the health library and follow the guidelines and protocols?

also use the online protocols for your convenience


now if you wish to kick it up a notch, get yourself a swami express and let it write you a personalized diet report for life......it is fabulous

More information on SWAMI diets can be found at:

http://www.dadamo.com/media/swami.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/swamigenotype.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/media/gtd.htm
find out how food rates for you individually, given your personal variables.


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Presumably you take the magnesium for a reason. Stop taking it and you may find out you actually do need it.


If you do not know why take it and you think it may have adverse effects for you-- you may want to stop taking it for a few weeks and see what happens.


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Thank you for both for your replies, however, neither one of you really answered my question...  

Lola, if you noticed my infomraiton under my user name I am in in Asia, I don't have access to an English library.   And you provided links to a SWAMI diet, and I am not understanding the connection here...  The links look interesting, but I am really not seeing any connection. Did you read my post?  Sorry for asking that..  but it seems to me you are just promoting the author's materials...   In addition what does the software provide differently than his books? It seems a lot of the information would just be overlap.  The software may be somewhat more updated, but, really? Is this necessary?

C_sharp, hmmm well.. I take it because it is good to help relax, and it is good to keep the blood thin and it helps with bowel movements. I know what happens when I don't take it, so I take, I don't need to stop again.  

I am quite surprised at the responses to my question.  My question was simply if type Os supposively have problems with clotting then we technically should not take Magnesium suppliments right?  However, I do not think I have any issues with clotting, unless my definition is wrong...  If in fact I do not have clotting issues than I can keep taking it.  The book does not mention anything about Magnesium that I can find so far.  At least in information for Os.  


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The software may be somewhat more updated


exactly!!!

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it seems to me you are just promoting the author's materials


ofcourse I promote what I believe in and has helped me enormously

FYI the author here is Dr D Adamo, and this is his website

I give guidance and suggest the most updated software designed by Dr D himself...it is as if you were having a private consultation with him at his CT clinic......what could possibly be wrong with that!!!

oh and one more thing, I apply magnesium oil topically daily, and love it!


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Os supposively have problems with clotting then we technically should not take Magnesium suppliments right?  However, I do not think I have any issues with clotting, unless my definition is wrong...  If in fact I do not have clotting issues than I can keep taking it.  



may I suggest you use the search window top right hand corner here?
like so:
http://www.bing.com/search?cp=1252&FORM=FREESS&q=magnesium&q1=site%3Adadamo.com


this is a self-help forum and any advice you get here should be taken with a grain of salt and common sense.....adapt what works for you.

swami is in fact personalized, and will compute depending on your individual variables, anthropometric and health history


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My question was simply if type Os supposively have problems with clotting then we technically should not take Magnesium suppliments right?  


I belong to a forum specifically for atrial fibrillation [via http://www.yourhealthbase.com]  while BTD isn't usually part of the discussion I have noticed that folk with type O blood decrease their problems by eating paleo style - not very different from Dr D's recommendations for O's  

Just about all participants take magnesium glycinate [chelated mag, some in quite high doses] some also take nattokinase to help avoid unwanted clots, and that includes the O's.... some sadly are on rat poison!

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Good morning from so far away..

The 'author'  Dr D has moved on and is working on way more advanced learning - since he wrote the books decades ago. You might want to look at N~1 to see the new connections..  
If you are computer capable you can even participate in the new discoveries and make new connections within those programs.  

http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/

To your question.. let me start with: I like Swami because it updates new info whenever I change something, and yet it stays the same to a large degree.  It addresses my dairy issues, I like a little and in Swami I can have some very specific ones. I like to print out my Swami foods as a shopping lists and they are somewhat updated from the early books. I will input my headache muscle connections and see what will happen soon. (I just discovered the Magnesium connection.)

I am O and I have just recently (2 weeks) added Phillips Milk of Magnesia to my daily intake, just a good swallow, to prevent muscle constrictions and then pain headaches.  It seems to work well for now.  I find that it solved my bathroom issues, a nice effect.

I have not taken it long enough to be able to tell if my blood thinned, My doctor was ok with me taking it in that form - he said it is not absorbed well in any other form -.  I will eventually do a test for it, but not yet.  

As for the worry about clotting, I have the same worry IF I don't take it.  

Meaning, doctors recommend that we take a little aspirin daily, but as O I am not taking it.

And because of Dr D and BTD advising that Vitamin E could cause thinning of O blood I am not taking it either.

The BTD books according to my recollection, say nothing about magnesium and O's clotting, so I feel it is OK to take it for NOW as I do, but it does create nausea for a while, so I will look for FOODS that contain Magnesium and focus on them.  

For me Diamond/Super Beneficials are  medicine.  

I am always focusing on Super Beneficial Diamonds and NOW will compare them to this magnesium list:  For me the muscle tension is a big thing and I am benefiting from the Magnesium connection for NOW, so more of the high magnesium foods on my plate, so that maybe later, I can let go of Phillips Milk of Magnesia...

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/food/magnesium-foods.htm

For me it is IN the learning and comparing.  I do not like supplements.. food works most of the time, and as I learn more I can experiment.

as for Lola- I am always pleased at how fast she answers all questions, day and night..most of the time she is spot on..(thanks Lola   

Give your question a chance .. others will help to answer it....  and as you learn you will know more than just the 'simple' yes and no answers.  All the best and welcome.


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Non Secretors typically have thicker blood than do Secretors.  

Do you know your secretor status?

It might explain a lot.  


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Thank you all for your replies.

1. The online software is how much more updated than the books are? This is an important question for me, I don't mind spending the money if I am going to get a lot of bang for that additional $60.

2. I was thinking maybe I misread something somewhere...  Do O's have thin blood or thick?  My original questions was about Magneisum thinning blood too much, but I am wondering if I misread the information.  Is it that Os lack blood clotting ability or is it that Os have too much blood clotting ability?  If Os have thin blood already, then I suspect Magneisum is not needed. However, if Os have thick blood then it would be needed.

3. Tom, I have no idea, and I do not think the test is really worth another $60. Especially since I am living overseas it is also not very convenient.  Is this something that can be done at a local hospital to find out rather than sending in the kit through this website?  Is there a more chemical or medical name for this test?

Thanks


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Type Os tend to have thinner blood- we're less likely to get problematic blood clots inside. I've never read anything (on this forum or in Dr D's books) to suggest that we're prone to excessive bleeding as a result of this. Our blood clots just fine when we have cuts that need to heal.

I use topical magnesium because it's better absorbed than oral forms and I don't trust the additives in oral forms (is the citrate in magnesium citrate made from corn?) If I forget to use it, I get muscle pains- clearly I need the extra magnesium!

There's absoultely no problem taking supplemental magnesium when your body needs it.


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The only advantage to swami is a list that can be printed out, and if things change, by getting healthier then Swami changes a little.. If money is not on issue - it is nice to have- it is great to go on line and look things up, it is the modern way of doing things.. BUT it is not needed at all.  The books are perfectly adequate, my books are dog eared from use, I have looked at my Swami list 80 times since I have it..

The test for Magnesium, I think is relatively easy.. take some, until you see your bowls become unstable, or near diarrhea, and then cut down or stop taking it. It gives you clues soon enough.

If it is tooo much then the body will create other ways of telling you what you need to know, like cramping at night, or just INTUITION.. it is all a test.  WHY NOT EAT foods that have minerals in them?  It's much safer and tastes much better.  I am going to concentrate on that starting yesterday - since I had near diarrhea.  I am happy with having taken it for a while every day to clean me out - YET now it is time to change again- Now I will take it only as needed- when I get the first tell-tale signs of muscle tension - which then gives me headaches.. I will NOW use it for 'MY headache prevention' only when needed.  

Rutygirl is using it topically for her issues. WHY ARE you thinking of NEEDing it? Maybe there are other solutions to issues you have..

Taking the non secreter test is possible at your doctors office.  They may have to look it up, it is where I took it. I will try to remember the name, it escapes me just now..    


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The only valid lab test for magnesium in our body is testing the content in our red blood cells.
Magnesium oxide, for instance, can cause diarrhoea with absolutely no reference to our cellular magnesium status.
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THE ORIGINAL answer to your question is answered :  ... You can not get to much  to affect blood clotting.. you will get diarrhea long before that would happen...

NEXT question? ah yes the secr test.. why not Google it?  

http://www.dadamo.com/program_advanced_secretor.htm

here is what I found.. do you fit his suggestions. either way?



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Thank you all for your replies, we're getting there, but not quite.

Ruthiegirl: According to the book Os are at higher risk for a cerebral aneurysm than any other blood type.  Meaning we have a weaking of the walls in the cerebral artery.  If the blood is too thin if we get hit on the head or the artery ruptures we can have a hemmorage.    This is related to a lack of blood clotting factors.  So how to increase blood clotting abilities and strenghen the artery walls?    Indeed our cuts are just fine, I agree.  

I use magnesium citrate which is highly absorbable, but yeah of course if you take too much you'll get the runs.  I built myself up to where I am now, it helps with stools, but I don't get the runs.

Goldie: Well I have the books, so...  haha, I don't really see the need to have another online sorce, but if it is updated, then it is great, but if it is not much different than the books, I see no need.  

I am not sure I need to test for magnesium, I never mentioned I wanted to test for it, I only asked if I can take it due to blood clotting issues in Os. And I don't even know if I have a blood clotting issue as stated in the books.   I need to take over 800mg of magneisum to get the runs, what I take daily helps with bowls, but that's about it.  My stress is mildly reduced and my muscles are a little less tense.  I probably should be taking more.

I have done a lot of reading on magneisum, it is useful for all sorts of health issues as well as the fact that people generally do not get enough of it in their daily diets. I read the Magneisum Factor about 5 years ago as well as found many useful online resources for magneisum.  This is why I take it.

Are you sure doing the secreter test is possible at a doctor's office?  I looked it up in google and only found this website as a resource.  I highly doubht any doctor I go to is going to know what I am talking about.  Is there another chemical name or blood test name for this test other than secretor and non-secreter? Again I am going to have to do this locally, and frankly don't want to spend $60 on a blood test when I am sure I can do it here for about $5, if that is this is a normal blood test... Now if it is Dr. D'Adamo's thing only, then there is only one way and that is to order his kit. And this is what I am asking....

Joyce: I am not sure who you are replying to, but I never asked to do a magnesium test. If you want real numbers, yes you have to go do a blood chemistry test. I don't need to do this.  Oxide is not absorbable, it is the worst kind you could take by the way...  

Goldie: See above....  I am not sure my question is answered..  Can I take it without risk of overly thinning the blood?

Yep the website you found is this author's website, and that is not what I want, I need to know if a normal lab can do this or not...  and what the name of the test is.


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jtw,

Just my personal anecdote, but I've been taking Mg for 2 years and have never had a clotting problem.  I'm pretty active and subsequently more accident-prone than most.  Blood stops just fine

D'Adamo does talk about bleeding problems for type O, and I can attest.  As a teenager I would bleed for hours from a nick of a razor, but no longer.

Very few labs will/can do a secretor test.  Only way possible is if they possess Lewis (Le) antibodies, and know what to look for.  (Le a- b+ = secretor, Le a+ b- = non-secretor)


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Yap.. here it is..the test shown above.. doctors mostly have to look it up..

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YOUR body knows what it needs.. You are taking just enough not to get the runs.. good enough..

Why are some of you responses to some answers so 'sensitive' Why be under stress if you are taking Mag?  What else is going on?  Did you look at the food list that have most Magnesium? are you including them?

O's have no worry about clotting issues, if we do what is advised in the books.. EAT RIGHT.. no aspirin, no Vit E..  

It is the clotting of our blood with grains and dairy products that would cause clotting internally, and then cause the bigger issues.

The answer is still: Best to try and decide what is good for your body.. I might do well with my supplement, others with varicose veins might do well with cream on magnesium to soften (by strengthening) the blood vessels.  One of the biggest answers here is always YOUR personal individualized body responses TODAY! not tomorrow, nor yesterday.    

Imagine if we still ate all the foods on our avoid list???  NOT doing so is the only responsibility I have to my body self..  and on here, it is a given that we understand THAT to be the biggest advantage of coming here, refinements notwithstanding..  

What are you eating? can you get enough foods to accommodate the O list?  Can your family stand all that meat to look at?

Have you seen the Geno book? Swami is all about genes..  It is a broken down step into more refined food needs.. Food gets changed a little for some, more for others.. I went from blueberries Beneficial, to avoid.. ouch.

For instance you can see in my avatar:  I am Gatherer, I was told 40 years ago that I am diabetic.. I fought the label, as I never knew anyone in my family to have it..  30 years later blood tests confirmed that I was born with the gene that would most likely trigger diabetes.. Today I have it.. Then I found that my father has it and my brother.. My sister has the cancer gene in her family from moms side.. so you see there is value in Genealogy..  


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Just my personal anecdote, but I've been taking Mg for 2 years and have never had a clotting problem.  I'm pretty active and subsequently more accident-prone than most.  Blood stops just fine

D'Adamo does talk about bleeding problems for type O, and I can attest.  As a teenager I would bleed for hours from a nick of a razor, but no longer.

Very few labs will/can do a secretor test.  Only way possible is if they possess Lewis (Le) antibodies, and know what to look for.  (Le a- b+ = secretor, Le a+ b- = non-secretor)


Or for $454 you can test yourself!  (j/k, not recommended)

http://www.lsbio.com/Antibodies/Lewis-A-Blood-Group-Antigen-Antibody-LS-C46047/45863

http://www.lsbio.com/Antibodies/Lewis-B-Blood-Group-Antigen-Antibody-LS-C46049/45865



Hi Eric, thanks for the reply.

I have been taking magnesium suppliements on and off now for almost seven years.  I hit my head many times, and that is why I worry that one day it may cause a really bad bleeding problem.  I haven't had any issues with minor cuts and things clotting, though I have cut myself quite deep twice this year, one time was a trip to the ER as it wouldn't stop bleeding, but I knicked the vein that's why...  but the ER doctor told me I probably could have treated it at home, small cut, just wouldn't stop bleeding after about 30 minutes, so...

I didn't have much issues with bleeding continually as a child even from knicks, but it does seem to take about 5-15 minutes on average to clot, is that normal?  Why do you no long have these issues?  Age? or something else you did?

Thank you for the chemical forumula, I will try to talk to some labs first before I just go to do it, because even the doctors may have no idea what I am talking about.. Medical here is hit or miss.  I will check the two websites you provided.  I have some friends doing PhD work on different things too, they might know which hospital can check for that stuff and how much it costs, it may end up being worth it to order the kit here. Thanks for the information!


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YOUR body knows what it needs.. You are taking just enough not to get the runs.. good enough..

Why are some of you responses to some answers so 'sensitive' Why be under stress if you are taking Mag?  What else is going on?  Did you look at the food list that have most Magnesium? are you including them?

O's have no worry about clotting issues, if we do what is advised in the books.. EAT RIGHT.. no aspirin, no Vit E..  

It is the clotting of our blood with grains and dairy products that would cause clotting internally, and then cause the bigger issues.

The answer is still: Best to try and decide what is good for your body.. I might do well with my supplement, others with varicose veins might do well with cream on magnesium to soften (by strengthening) the blood vessels.  One of the biggest answers here is always YOUR personal individualized body responses TODAY! not tomorrow, nor yesterday.    

Imagine if we still ate all the foods on our avoid list???  NOT doing so is the only responsibility I have to my body self..  and on here, it is a given that we understand THAT to be the biggest advantage of coming here, refinements notwithstanding..  

What are you eating? can you get enough foods to accommodate the O list?  Can your family stand all that meat to look at?

Have you seen the Geno book? Swami is all about genes..  It is a broken down step into more refined food needs.. Food gets changed a little for some, more for others.. I went from blueberries Beneficial, to avoid.. ouch.

For instance you can see in my avatar:  I am Gatherer, I was told 40 years ago that I am diabetic.. I fought the label, as I never knew anyone in my family to have it..  30 years later blood tests confirmed that I was born with the gene that would most likely trigger diabetes.. Today I have it.. Then I found that my father has it and my brother.. My sister has the cancer gene in her family from moms side.. so you see there is value in Genealogy..  


I'm a sensitive person by nature.  I can't change that I think. sorry.

To be honest I just got the books and have been reading bits and pieces slowly, but I am already trying to adopt some of the things in the books.  Coffee is going to be a hard one, but if it is one of the only things I don't do, I think I will be fine.  I eat a lot of breads and grains and I think that is why I don't feel well half the time. I don't sleep right, and don't sleep well.  I need to exercise but don't do much. I have ADHD which well.. who doesn't have that nowadays, I deal with it.. haha.  The magnesium helps me to relax a little and keeps me focused a little better...

I'm not worried about all the meat, my family doesn't care, but I have attempted over the years to eat, "better" more veggies and fruits. and less meat...  hmmmm I think I digressed for the last 6 years, but boy did I learn alot of about nutrition in the process and other foods that are generally just overally bad for us.  

And yes, I know we all have to listen to our bodies, that is something I teach people who do the master cleanse.  

Geno book? Which one?  Can you give me the details? Thanks.  Though I am not sure what I can do with it because that would probably entail another blood test right?  hahaha.  



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I'm a sensitive person by nature.  I can't change that I think. sorry.

To be honest I just got the books and have been reading bits and pieces slowly, but I am already trying to adopt some of the things in the books.  Coffee is going to be a hard one, but if it is one of the only things I don't do, I think I will be fine.


90% of that will get resolved when you move away from the beans.. you can have caffeine in Green tea or dark chocolate.

The ADHD is helped greatly when you follow mostly Super Beneficials and Beneficial foods (only) for a few month.

No blood test needed for Geno typing.. but if you are a nonnie it points in the direction of Gatherer, a gene that might be yours if someone in your family has diabetes..

The Geno book is available, in libraries maybe, .... read more here

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED011  

If you are new to this, have patience.. You will see great results and Best: you can make great differences if you are still planning to have a child.. or stop the misinformation food wise in your family.. It is easy once you clean out the kitchen of all packaged foods. Fresh every thing will be a great change, and easy to cook with.  It is still a discovery of things even 2 decades later for me.

There is no rush unless you plan to get pregnant, then there is a book for planning for that several month in advance.. Dr D wrote many specialized books, and enormous info is available on this site.. go above and look around.. make notes as you go or you will never find the info again.

There is enough information here for a college education.. and if you are computer literate.. look at the choices given in N~1 ... about Quodlibet/// read about its possibilities in

http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/

most of all have fun with this, be forgiving of self, and others.. stress is spelled backward: desserts..  Is it the chicken or the egg?  for me its memories of pastries galore..  






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Geno book? Which one?  Can you give me the details?



D'Adamo only has one book on the GenoType Diet. It is available in hardcover, softcover, electronic, and other languages.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED011

Some books say "GenoType Diet" and other say "Change Your Genetic Destiny", most say both. It is the same content regardless of the cover.



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  I eat a lot of breads and grains and I think that is why I don't feel well half the time.


Very bad move for an O-type! no wonder you are unwell.

My sister, the only O in a family of A's had to give up all grains to deal with her bowel problems.

BTW have you ever had your platelet levels checked as I know other O's with low platelet counts and that can lead to 'thin' blood and problems with lengthy clotting times?
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Ok sorry for the late reply.

Goldie: Not sure what book you are looking at, but the one I have does not mention any “super beneficial foods” It only mentions beneficial…  

I am pretty sure I found the book, but the review on amazon is interesting, one guy poses a very interesting question that makes me very very confused…  

http://www.amazon.com/review/R.....ead=Tx1NC3TD63XORSU#

This is the link to the review page, but this person’s review is what prompted the question.  This is verbatim from the review, “everest67 says: I really thank you for your amazing, competent, educate reviews that are helping me to clear my clouded mind So, you are saying:
" If you want to produce healthier offspring, then follow the GenoType Diet. If you're only concerned about your well-being and/or trying to fight off a particular disease, then follow the Blood Type Diet.
To understand: if I suffer from chronic maladies and my general health is poor, suffer from migraine, viral chronic infections etc, the blood type diet would be a better choice?
I only recently bought the first three books with the understanding that changing the way we eat helps the body to heal itself.That I really believe.
I would be grateful for your opinion. Many thanks.


He is obviously being sarcasitic here, but actually what he says makes sense as the books seem to tell you to do differnet things.. That is confusing...  So… now a little confused on which one to follow… Can someone elaborate in laymen’s terms please?

It is difficult to stop the misinformation about food in the family, family is hard-headed, and they have watched me go through different programs before. They live to eat not eat to live, so…  Fresh is not really a big problem I think…  Most of the things here are relatively fresh, though we do use sauces and such but will have to check labels a bit more carefully.

I believe it will take some time to utilize these things in the books and I may choose to ignore some of them based on other findings I have read in other books.  I have an entire library of health books and medical papers.

We do want to get pregnant, having a hard time, 5 years of trying, both are ok, both got checked, no problems.  I might buy the book about pregnancy, we’ll see.
I bet there is a lot of information on this site, I will copy and paste what I need, thanks for the advice.  

Stress needs to be worked on, has been like that for years, one step at a time.

C_sharp, see above my question about the book, a little confusing..  

Joyce, yes, I know, thank you, I know already, I read that the first day I got it..   It’s abundantly clear, trust me.  I am not “unwell” so to speak..  But I do believe I could be healthier that is for sure.
You, however, mention about grains, and your sister having to give them all up?  According to the book not all grains are bad…  For example I eat granola bars from Quaker, now aside from the sugar in them, they are fairly healthy and low calorie, provided you don’t eat 10 at a sitting.. that is something I have to learn not to do. Hahaha.  I have some bowel issues also, but not severe, at least I can go.


As for platelet count, every year, no problems, everything is where it is supposed to be.
So again..  ok, so magnesium supplements are fine for O types?  We are not going to thin our blood out to the point it won’t clot and we won’t be getting any hemorrhages because we take it right?  Aspirin seems to be similar to magnesium as it thins out the blood, so it is confusing to me, why can I take magnesium and not aspirin?  


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You need to read all ingredients on all processed foods carefully. I don't buy any ready-made granola bars, because all the ones available near me contain wheat and/or corn ingredients. There used to be a kind with just oats,  but they've changed the formula in recent years. If there was something made with oats as the only grain, I'd gladly buy it for my kids.

It's OK to make dietary changes slowly, if it's too much to make all the changes at once. Remember that what you do eat is as important as what you avoid eating. Add in plenty of good quality animal protein and vegetables. Make sure to include fish and red meat a few  times a week- poultry is good, but that can't be your only protein source. Forget trying to "eat more veggies and less meat." Change that focus. You want to "eat more veggies and fewer grains" while keeping the meat intake up. Most O's dont need to go completely grain-free, but we do need to choose the right ones and keep the portions down.

If you're not ready to cut out all the "bad foods" just yet, cut down on wheat and corn. Better yet, cut out those two foods. Avoiding the "wrong" vegetables and beans isn't quite as important. You'll certainly be healthier if you can be 100% on the program, but you're more likely to see big changes from cutting out wheat and corn than you will from cutting out cucumbers or kidney beans.

Ideal is to move away from processed foods altogether and eat foods you prepare yourself. Instead of grabbing a granola bar "on the go," take homemade, compliant trail mix. Rice should be easy enough to find in Asia. If you go with simple meals, it's less work to prepare AND it's healthier. Meat, veggies, and a little rice makes a filling meal, and you can vary the spices and veggies so it doesn't get boring.

For fertility issues, it's important that both of you "eat right" for a few months. Her diet probably matters more than yours in this regard.

Back to the magnesium question: my understanding is that magnesium and asprin work in different ways. Asprin thins the blood in a way that's helpful for most A's but harmful for most O's, because our blood is already "thin enough" in whatever asprin works on. Magnesium does something else to the blood, plus is needed for hundreds of things elsewhere in the body.

My conjecture: perhaps it's not that magnesium thins the blood, but that magnesium deficiency leads to "thick blood." Replace the needed magnesium and you get healthier blood cells, which means less blood clotting for individuals prone to blood clots. Add magnesium when the blood is already "thin enough" and it won't cause problems, but rather the magnesium goes to where it's needed in the body for muscle relaxing, enzyme production, etc.

All I know for certain is that Dr D has never told O's to limit magnesium intake.


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