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tolondontoparis
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I mean I am an O, not sure of secretor status, but fallow the nonnie one to be safe. However, I don't understand how coconut is bad for most types. I mean many civilizations have been eating it for years! And I am from an island nation. Also, soy in general I think is bad with how it affects the hormones. Oh, and even apples are bad!

Oh and, I am so paranoid about hormone injected meats! I mean I can't always find organic or afford it, and need meet. Should I just stop being paranoid?

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just try doing the diet for a period of time, honestly and with as much enthusiasm as you can muster. you will be pleasantly surprised.

personally I wouldn't follow the nonnie diet unless I knew I was a nonnie (which I am) get tested to be sure and take the guess work out of the equation.

Give coconut a miss for a while.

you may be from a island nation recently but your blood type goes back way way further than that. it may have enabled some people to survive but eating the old way will make you thrive.


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yes

if you are so concerned about following the very basic O BTD recommendations,

try a swami

no way will you find anything more personalized than that!!!

tweak as you go along, by finding out your secretor status and rerunning the software, comparing one list with the other, finding out more about your individuality

the whole discovery process has been nothing short of liberating.....letting go of the avoid staples throughout your life and avoiding all one size fit all advice given everywhere!!! bliss!!!


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coconut is bad for most types. Also, soy in general I think is bad with how it affects the hormones. Oh, and even apples are bad!

Oh and, I am so paranoid about hormone injected meats!


Coconut has been described like a soap in the system, and not everyone needs it. Also it is hard on the liver.

Soy has as much documentation for its benefits as anything out there. Your belief system means nothing to the people that are thriving on it (blood type A and AB). Furthermore all blood types can benefit from the bonus of soy by products, under many situations.

Hormone injected meat isn't really showing up as a determining factor in health. It has nothing to do with kids maturing faster. Earlier puberty is a response of self defense, for self reliance, by kids who don't have their parents around as much, or that feel that way about them. The real problem with cheap meat is they feed the animals in such a way that they become hosts for bad bacteria so strongly they will die shortly if not slaughtered. When that happens the balance of Omega ratios is way off, offending proteins may be present, and if not cooked all the way through the bacterial aspect could be an issue. (You might like it medium rare but I wouldn't recommend that with cheap meat) Also they use meat glue on "prime cuts" - meat glue is toxic.

Funny enough you are still better off eating lower quality foods that are good for you, than not eating them at all. Better to avoid wheat and eat lower quality meat, that to eat wheat (even organic, which doesn't make it healthy) and avoid meat.
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I can't handle hormone dairy products or meats.  It causes pain in my ovaries and bleeding, and breast lumps.  When I quit eating any hormone meat or dairy these problems go away.  I've tested myself a few times to be sure they were the cause.  I'm sure my simple way of testing wouldn't be up to scientific standards but I like to listen to my body and try to keep it healthy.  Maybe if you don't have ovaries or breasts you can eat hormones in meat and dairy with no health risks but I ain't touching the stuff if I can help it.
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I can't handle hormone dairy products or meats.  It causes pain in my ovaries and bleeding, and breast lumps.  When I quit eating any hormone meat or dairy these problems go away.  I've tested myself a few times to be sure they were the cause.  I'm sure my simple way of testing wouldn't be up to scientific standards but I like to listen to my body and try to keep it healthy.  Maybe if you don't have ovaries or breasts you can eat hormones in meat and dairy with no health risks but I ain't touching the stuff if I can help it.


I'm not willing to use an anecdote like that for science. But as I've said I wouldn't consider those meats to be particularly healthy; but neither is starving.

Dairy, would be no surprise to cause problems under any circumstance.

But anyway, you don't know that your problems are caused by the hormones the meat was exposed to, what the animals where fed, anymore than if it is the plastic and Styrofoam causing hormonal imbalance. Last it sounds like you have bigger problems if your hormones that thrown off so easily.  
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I will continue to listen to my body and not advise anyone to think that synthetic hormones given to animals that we use for food will not possibly harm us.
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I will continue to listen to my body and not advise anyone to think that synthetic hormones given to animals that we use for food will not possibly harm us.


Right. But I'm pointing out it is hard to know if it is the hormones or not. As the the kids, it doesn't show to be true. That doesn't meat it isn't with you, but it doesn't mean it is. It could be meat glue. A lot of possibilities.

If you want to be upset about hormones in live stock, the repercussions alone of feed lot style should be more than enough of an argument. The animals are not healthy, and the environment is not healthy around it. It is subsidized by tax dollars going to their feed. The methane is one of the largest contributors to climate change. Every thing involved with those that use the hormones is an issue, so why believe they are incapable of causing just as much grief without?
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DoS, you're not female. I'm with Kibble, it does effect my hormones, especially in the menopause times.


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DoS, you're not female. I'm with Kibble, it does effect my hormones, especially in the menopause times.


That isn't the point.

Since the beginning of time humans have come to conclusions we later find out where not true. It could a lot of things not associated with the hormones, but associated with the animals that get treated by hormones.

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It causes pain in my ovaries and bleeding, and breast lumps.  


Kibble    I would be concerned about that and make sure nothing else is happening.. like see a doctor.. or two?

tolondontoparis   But yes I can have all sorts of avoid foods, and some I don't react to.. others I do.. How you ask?  some give me no problems, others give me on itchy chin.. The ones that give me no problems right away, make me THINK i can have them, and then I start gaining weight soon after.

For some foods, eating them will neither harm me right away nor make me gain, but my gums start bleeding. Others create sinus issues, and or dry skin, skin bumps, and make me tired.

So you might be right in thinking as you do, and as you get older, the real issues will show up.. like diabetes, or heart conditions or cancer.  

I am not fanatic about all organic foods, I try the best I can, but when I CHEAT - I take full responsibility for my own actions -- living dangerously!  

The good part about this diet is, that it is a concept to which we need only adhere to 80 to 90% and we can choose among this or that food. There is no food police here, unless you taunt us, or unless you are a nay sayer.. then we come back with hard won, learned wisdom, and we tell it like it MIGHT be if you chose to do it your way.  So here all the choices are yours to make!  Enjoy all of them.   

all the best..
    

  


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I mean I am an O, not sure of secretor status, but fallow the nonnie one to be safe. However, I don't understand how coconut is bad for most types. I mean many civilizations have been eating it for years! And I am from an island nation. Also, soy in general I think is bad with how it affects the hormones. Oh, and even apples are bad!

Oh and, I am so paranoid about hormone injected meats! I mean I can't always find organic or afford it, and need meet. Should I just stop being paranoid?


Soy wrecks havoc with the hormones in Os and Bs. It doesn't have that effect on As and ABs.

Apples are bad for O nonnies but OK for eveyrbody else. It's an "avoid" on my SWAMI but I never had any obvious bad reactions to it, other than blood sugar instability if I over-eat them (which happens with any kind of fruit.)

I never noticed any problems with coconut consumption either (except coconut ice cream with carrageenan and other additives.) But that doesnt' mean anything. Lack of obvious reactions tells you nothing about what's happening inside- it could still be causing subtle, long-term damage.

Coconut milk and meat is absolutely delicious, but there's still something in there that isn't altogether healthy for most people. Coconuts do contain healthy fats and some protien. If the diet is otherwise lacking in calories or beneficial fats, then the addition of coconut is going to improve the health of the population. But people would be even healthier if they got those fats from completely compliant sources (say, coconut oil instead of consuming the whole coconut).

As an individual, you need to decide how compliant you need and want to be. If you're overall healthy, you may decide to eat coconut occasionally, in social settings, as a special treat. OTOH, if you're dealing with health issues, it pays to be extra careful until you're done healing.

We're all unique individuals. Some people are super-sensitive to lower-quality meats, and do  better eating less meat/more veggie protien if high-quality meat isn't available. Others need to have *enough* meat, even if it's not the best quality. I fall into the latter category- I need meat to function. Some people have the resources to jump right in and only buy organic foods, while others need to implement BTD on a budget and need to make compromises. Figuring out WHERE to make those compromises may vary from one person to another.

It may take some trial and error to figure out what works best for you. O's need ample amounts of meat. Buy the best quality you can afford- if that means the "cheap meats" so you can afford to eat enough meat to nourish your O body, then that's what you need to do.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Are hormones still used in the US - I'm sure they aren't in UK.
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Are hormones still used in the US - I'm sure they aren't in UK.


Yes. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of cows in the U.S. are on some. That doesn't mean they look like this; that requires gene manipulation.
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That bull looks like it is a Belgian Blue, bred to have tendencies towards myostatin blocking.


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Glad i can't stand coconut!
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