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Dirty
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Hello everyone. I'm new here, but have owned "Live right for your type" and "Eat right for your type" for over a year now and recently bought a copy of "Change your genetic destiny" and did the "Swami" thing. I have been 90%ing the BTD for over a year now and have a few complications with some of the foods, but overall think its a good idea. That"s why I bought the other books and the Swami.

I'm not sure how to get all this information in my profile, but I an A-, and a "Warrior" and don't know my secreter status.

Anyway to my question. Does anyone here have or have had a heart arrhythmia. I developed mine over 3-4 years ago and even though it hasn't killed me yet, I feel like I have already died. My life is not what it was and I can't do anything I enjoyed before this happened to me. It has ruined my social life and my personal life, and has been horrible for those that care about me.

I hope to be able to share any helpful information I have (if any) who could use it and be able to help other in any way in this community, but the reason I'm here is because I have very few options left to find a way to heal myself, and think Dr. D'Adamo's research is great and may be something that can help me. Since I can't work with him personally, I thought maybe someone here may have some useful info or personal experience with heart arrhythmia.

I would like to post much more detail about my condition, but I've already made this post to long, so I think I might make a page later and post the link for anyone interested.

Thanks for any info and I'm glad to be in this community finally.
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I'm not sure how to get all this information in my profile, but I an A-, and a "Warrior" and don't know my secreter status.


How to add comments like "Warrior" to the left of your posts:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/#num1


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Have you had any treatment or instruction from a medical doctor about this? Or any testing done? The more information people have the better... I suppose you will be posting more later. I have the problem occasionally, but I have not been diagnosed with any serious problems at all after extensive testing. Usually mine is brought on by some type of trauma except when I was put on a blood pressure medication a few years ago that caused it. Of course, I quit taking it and that problem went away.

My mother-in-law had it really bad, but she lived to be nearly 85. She drove herself to the ER in the middle of the night on one occasion when she was having a very severe attack of it. Sangfroid could have been her middle name even though outwardly she was a delicate little thing. Amazing...!

So we will be waiting to learn more about your own experiences with this sometimes scary problem....


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Thanks for the link C_Sharp.

Hi Spring, to be more specific I have PVC's (Premature Ventricular Contractions), PAC's (Premature Atrial Contractions), and SVT's (Supraventricular Tachycardia), and "general palpitations", whatever that means.

These were diagnosed by a cardiologist.

I will make a page with all the info and data I have, but have spent so much money on doctors, ER visits, naturopaths, and alt. heath specialist, it may be a week or so, cause I have to spend so much time trying to keep the lights on and the family fed. I will get working on it as soon as I can. In the meantime, I can add that, I have tested phase 2 adrenal fatigue, low iodine levels (just got off iodine therapy), and have had a metal test using hair samples that came back very toxic levels of arsenic, lead, cadmium, thallium, antimony, and tungsten. My magnesium levels barely even registered even though I have been taking supplements for years.

I believe the problem is caused by the Vagus nerve, which is triggered by GI problems that I have and are currently undiagnosed by a "professional".
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as I read the heading I said this is going to be on A person..

It seems A's can have a lot of issues as you described..

I am somewhat surprised that it has not gotten better after one year?/  

Might I ask .. how has this affected you so negatively - life wise-- ?

why would you be showing up with so many metals.. any history work-wise?

sorry I have no answers, other than that many have issues and get scared by them.  That might be the wrong thing to allow for your self.. but I understand it can be scary..

I will keep reading as you share more info.. all the best and welcome..

as for your name.. I would change it to something more positive.. or am I reading that incorrectly?  


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Does anyone here have or have had a heart arrhythmia. I developed mine over 3-4 years ago and even though it hasn't killed me yet, I feel like I have already died. My life is not what it was and I can't do anything I enjoyed before this happened to me. It has ruined my social life and my personal life, and has been horrible for those that care about me.



Yes I do and am similarly Warrior.

I started with arrhythmia when I had a spell of over active thyroid, possibly brought on by stress in my early 30's.

The a gap, then lone atrial fibrillation about 10 years ago.

The most help and info I've had has been from the forum of http://www.yourhealthbase.com
http://www.afibbers.net/forum/list.php?9 [user name afibbers and pw 2 sesame to keep spammers out].

Many folks on there are actually type O's and dietary recommendations are paleo!!!!!  BUT it is worth reading the forum, asking questions, and reading the archived material etc..... esp note posts by Jackie - and Hans, the owner and editor.

I am back on here because I want the support offered here to be eating well for an A/warrior along with the info I've gleaned/gained from the specifically afib forum.

I use magnesium as glycinate orally and as dissolved in water sulphate on my skin.  I can't tolerate taurine or potassium supplements which is why I also need the BTD/GTD to reduce inflammation as much as possible in other ways.
Lots of reading for you and good luck! - it is possible to be in control without the condition controlling you.

One thing I've also learned is that if you can get to the point of saying "...to hell with my weird heartbeat...." and let it happen... then it will be more likely not to, that's my experience anyway.

As a precaution against blood clots, esp at my age, I do take a good quality nattokinase caps every 8 hours as the docs would like me on rat poison.

Joyce

PS my mother also had it and lived to 90, dying of pneumonia.
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Yes,I have it. I also have an enlarged heart, my left ventricle isn't pumping blood correctly, and a leaky mitral valve and somewhat low thyroid. I was put on baby aspirin, magnesium, potassium, a beta blocker, and a statin when I got out of the hospital last year, and also no more caffeine. However, I quit the beta blocker and statin because of side effects and inflamed liver. I have been taking L-carnitine, ubiquinol, B complex, under the tongue B12, milk thistle (for my liver - which worked), red yeast rice (for cholesterol), a good quality fish oil, 500 - 1000 mg of vitamin C every morning after breakfast, and a baby aspirin, calcium citrate, magnesium, potassium, and vitamin D3 an hour before bed. Recently I added a multi-vitamin (no iron for my age), astaxanthin, bacopa, and turmeric. I have to take liquid gels or capsules because I can't digest pills. Sometimes I take Iosol liquid drops for my thyroid. I plan to start quercetin soon. I walk two miles every day on my treadmill. Most of the time I feel good, but some days I feel tired or my chest has a heavy feeling. I find that happens usually when I eat something I am allergic to (my pulse will get extremely fast)or too many carbs. I'm also pre-diabetic. I can't do so many things I used to do, but I'm happy to still be here.
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as I read the heading I said this is going to be on A person..

It seems A's can have a lot of issues as you described..

I am somewhat surprised that it has not gotten better after one year?/  

Might I ask .. how has this affected you so negatively - life wise-- ?

why would you be showing up with so many metals.. any history work-wise?

sorry I have no answers, other than that many have issues and get scared by them.  That might be the wrong thing to allow for your self.. but I understand it can be scary..

I will keep reading as you share more info.. all the best and welcome..

as for your name.. I would change it to something more positive.. or am I reading that incorrectly?  



I have to say the past year has been the best year since all this started. I have gone just over a year without any major episodes (I'll have to describe them on my bio when I type it up), but they still happen and still often.

The way they have affected my life so much is, mainly becoming agoraphobic. Going to concerts, hiking, vacations, visiting friends or family out of town or having to commit a certain amount of time to anything stresses the hell out of me. The randomness and frequency, they happen keeps me close to home. This is not something that I can pretend isn't happening when they do, I have to stop everything, and get to my bed and try to breath and not freak out. These things give me severe anxiety attacks, something else I don't deal with well.

The metal toxicity, the best I can guess is use of prescription drugs through my teenage years, and I have a metal fabrication business, and have worked in machine shops for the past decade. Metal and abrasive dust, fumes, oils, coolants, metal working chemicals, etc. I have only started eating organic foods just over a year ago. I can't say that I have the healthiest career nor the healthiest hobbies, but I have switched all the metal working fluids to non toxic in my shop (for me, the other workers, and the earth), added extra fume extracting exhaust, and try to keep protective clothing and breathing and eye protection in all the work spaces. It's still not perfect, but alot better than when I started.

As for my name, there is no negative emotion in it. It actually pleases me as a term of endearment. I got it because of my personal lifestyle, not actually being or feeling dirty. It mainly came from my clothes being sewn up over and over again and homemade patches holding them together. The way I would fix my boots when they would come apart. I'm just not a person that throws things away the moment they get a hole in it or start to fade. I fix everything I can and keep it as long as I can. I don't go along with the "throw away society" we live in and think adding the personal touches to things gives them more soul and feeling. It's not a bad thing. It's just not going with the grain.

To everyone else that has responded, thanks and I will read up on your links and suggestions and thanks for the personal stories, and input. I really do think this is curable even though the doctors don't believe it. I just think there is alot more data that needs to be had in order to really find out what causes these.
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The way they have affected my life so much is, mainly becoming agoraphobic. Going to concerts, hiking, vacations, visiting friends or family out of town or having to commit a certain amount of time to anything stresses the hell out of me.

The randomness and frequency, they happen keeps me close to home. This is not something that I can pretend isn't happening when they do, I have to stop everything, and get to my bed and try to breath and not freak out. These things give me severe anxiety attacks, something else I don't deal with well.


Here is what you need to do.. go to the nearest pharmacy and buy one of those things to put on your finger to see the heart/pulse is doing..   JUST seeing the numbers and taking them down by breathing will make all the differences.  There is nothing so reassuring than seeing the numbers.  well worth the investment.  

as for FEAR it will kill you if you let it.. ask your doctor for propranalol, to start with for you to take when you get on attack.   But agro .. is bad business.  It is killing you and your life.. please see your doctor and ask for the above, as it will give you release of anxiety fear and fright soon after taking it..

KNOW THAT YOU WILL NOT DIE.. that is important.  Lets say.. even if you did.. so be it.. BUT you will not and you will just learn to trust that.  just knowing that your body is just reacting to some thought pattern even while sleeping is enough to trust it that it will do what it needs to do to SURVIVE.   Your need to fear based living is from something that 'crawled' over your liver some long time ago.. even your fixing things endlessly are a sign of some fear gone wrong.. There is no need to fear the loss of any thing.. there will be many who can benefit from things we have used up.. letting go is a healthy thing. as is holding some things dear.. There has to be balance.  

The palpitations are emotional in root, but in the end NOT REAL.  Learn about why, when, where, and how come .. see what you ate or what you did that day .. It might even be a sign that you are not getting enough out door time to breath to enjoy life to be with friends..  communicate here and we will be here to encourage you to let go of fear, let go of what is holding you back from joining life all over again.. get a new name like sunshine or happiness, or any that will help you to be reminded that there is more to life than fears..  

Make a wish board.. take magazine covers and paste them into a book, picture or on a wall to remind you that there is beauty out in the world.. wish for out door life.. with friends.. a cup of tea even alone in a park .. breath deeply.. as long as you are here with us you are not alone.. we will have that cup with you.. all the best..  


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Re "I believe the problem is caused by the Vagus nerve, which is triggered by GI problems that I have ".

That is a very common experience, Dirty.  I meant to say so yesterday but our broadband gave up!

Also as Goldie mentions, and I forgot as it is so long ago, maybe 2004, I was given some propanalol to take in case of emergency.... I forgot because although I have some in my purse, I think I've only actually used it a couple of times and not in the last few years.

A B-type friend who developed afib was put on daily beta blockers which actually made things worse for her.  She had been vegetarian for 20 years and switched almost overnight to paleo.... cutting out all grains for a spell and now introducing rice.
She has discovered she is gluten intolerant.

If you haven't tried gluten free, not using the processed foods!! do give that a go and eat as simply as possible - you have youth on your side and can almost certainly beat it without resorting to drugs or surgery - all of which are discussed on the forum I posted earlier.

Let us know how you get on.  
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Thanks Goldie & Joyce for the advice. I will research the propranalol. I must say that I have an extreme discontent for pharmaceuticals as I feel they have helped greatly in destroying my body. My mom calls me all the time asking if I want to sue some company that made a drug I was on that now have been shown to destroy peoples health. She see's this on television all the time and I had to tell her to let it go, that no amount of money is going to change the past. I don't have television and haven't had it for almost 4 years now. That has changed my life for the better. Ignorance really is bliss

I have to admit that I'm not really in constant fear. I usually only have my fear when it happens. The only time I have unfounded fears is when it's time to plan a trip or event to go somewhere. I have been a little more stressed the past couple days because I have to go to a wedding tonight. Some family wanted to ride with me because I don't drink and that automatically makes me the designated driver around here, but I like to know I can leave at any time without waiting on someone else. The fear really isn't that bad anymore. I have just got it in my head to persevere and get myself better. I (now) believe that it is possible and that I will do it.

I have made great changes in my life and am feeling the positive effects of them. I left the city and moved out to the middle of nowhere (that"s where I like to be), we designed and built our own house in the middle of the woods, and have tons of land and now can't even hear the road much less see it. We are almost in our own Garden of Eden. Life has slowed down in almost every way and we are surrounded by wildlife and tranquility. I still have lots of job stress, but I leave that at the shop. We now eat all organic foods and hopefully in a few months we can harvest our crops (even better).

My plans from here are to get my GI issues in check and then hopefully detox these metals. I don't think it's a good idea to detox while my gut is in such bad shape. Once I detox the metals, I would like to focus more on getting my adrenals back to good health. I still think there is a major link to the vagus nerve, and notice from years of experience, that usually when I have palpitations, my breathing is short or shallow, or my gut isn't liking me at the moment.

One more thing, Goldie, I do have a pulse/oximeter. It does help a little psychologically, and usually I notice the oxygen level to be slightly low when I have palpitations. I also have my own EKG and various other tools and equipment for medical purposes. My blood pressure on average is around 110/65 and when calm have a general pulse rate of 65 - 70 bpm. I do have logs on my EKG but doctors don't want to see any of that. Most of them think I'm crazy for having this stuff, but the reason I have it is because I have been shown that I can't trust them. Me going to the doctor is like a baby bird asking a snake to help it back up to it's nest. And that was when I had health insurance.  

Thanks again.
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Looks like you are doing many things right.. !  Enjoy the wedding.. go by your self.. as for later.. I am sending you a link to read.. all the best.. !


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Also as Goldie mentions, and I forgot as it is so long ago, maybe 2004, I was given some propanalol to take in case of emergency.... I forgot because although I have some in my purse, I think I've only actually used it a couple of times and not in the last few years.

I believe strongly in the notion that simply having something on hand that will help makes an enormous difference in how we view certain health issues, whether we actually take it or not. I don't think we can even begin to measure the toll that fear exacts from the quality of our lives and, most of all, our health! Some might think this is simply a crutch, but sometimes that is exactly what we need. And simply having it on hand works wonders all by itself!

I hope you will follow Goldie and Joyce's advice and make sure you have this medication in hand.


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I looked up Propranalol, and even though I hate drugs, I am currently taking 25mg of Atenolol daily and 1.5mg of Xanax. I want to get off of both of these and thats my goal for this year, to maintain without these. I definitely don't want to start taking more. To me that's going backwards. What is interesting about what I've read about Propranalol, is it seems to do what both of the drugs I'm taking now do. I will inquire about this next time I see my licensed drug dealer. It may even be a step down the road I want to go, especially if I get to the point I don't have to take it everyday. I do think this is just a crutch though, but at this point I really believe in using crutches if that"s what it takes. I still believe the healing I need isn't something drugs are gonna provide for me. That's something I have to do, and with the surprisingly great help the people on this forum have already given, I think it may come a little easier than I expected.

Thanks everyone. Enjoy your weekend. I'm off to watch alot of well dressed people get drunk and stupid. That may be liberating in it's own way. I definitely wont be eating tonight since I live in the land of pork and beer. I'll take an apple or two.
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The first thing I think of when someone has heart arrhythmia is the thyroid and I see that Joyce already addressed that.

I love the way you're going about your transition to a more quiet and healthy life.  I wish I could give you some wonderful advice but there are plenty of people on this forum who can do that.  I would rule out thyroid problems, though, as that is fairly easy to have checked.

Let us know how the wedding went.
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I looked up Propranalol, and even though I hate drugs, I am currently taking 25mg of Atenolol daily and 1.5mg of Xanax. I want to get off of both of these and thats my goal for this year, to maintain without these. I definitely don't want to start taking more. To me that's going backwards. What is interesting about what I've read about Propranalol, is it seems to do what both of the drugs I'm taking now do.


Xanax -- oh, boy. It is so addictive and it gets to the point where enough is never enough. I used it for several weeks after I had a terrific reaction to Clorox, (nerves shot, BP out of sight, etc.) and I saw right away that I didn't want to get cozy with Xanax. My doctor was trying to get me to take about six times more than I was taking, but I refused to do it. I got off of it by reducing the dosage gradually over a period of time and sticking to my diet religiously. And walking, walking, walking.......I was never so glad to get off a medication in my life. To tell you the truth, I think it actually brings on panic attacks, eventually. I had them so bad that I could not drive for months. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is very good for that, though, which I administered myself. And it worked, to my astonishment! Haven't had a panic attack since!


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I looked up Propranalol, and even though I hate drugs, I am currently taking 25mg of Atenolol daily and 1.5mg of Xanax.  


Dirty, I doubt if you should take propanalol when you already take Atenolol - both are beta blockers and as I mentioned with my friend, and you will find on the afib forum, some people's arrhythmia is actually made worse by beta blockers.

I do cheat a bit because having been diagnosed with glaucoma I do sometimes use a drop of timolol [another beta blocker] to lower my intraocular pressure [IOP] - this does, despite the licensed drug pushers [love that!] denying it in the main, act systemically.... finding a doc who supports you is also important and I've recently been very lucky in finding one.... at least for my eyes.

Enjoy the wedding and yes, go on your own.

PS - don't come off beta blockers cold turkey, gradually reduce if you and your doc agree.
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Dirty said "... when calm (I) have a general pulse rate of 65 - 70 bpm." For me, when calm, mine is around 80. Even before I get out of bed, my pulse is never under 79. If I eat something I'm allergic to, my pulse goes up - eggs up to 125, gluten - 110+
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Dirty, you relating how you have to get to bed when you are having your episodes reminded me of when a central heating and cooling guy was here doing a sales pitch for his company/product. He already knew I was not doing well before he came. (I had developed sleep apnea and all that went with that, including panic attacks. Mostly related to the Clorox deal.) Anyway, I was sitting in the den, and he was standing out in front of me talking faster and faster. Suddenly, I went into a panic attack and had to actually lie down on the sofa with this guy standing over me talking even faster and faster. I couldn't take in a word he was saying and finally told him to just install the system without anymore discussion!! I found out later that HE had untreated sleep apnea and was having a panic attack while he was talking to me!!! The men who worked for him told me that his wife was on his back all the time about seeing a doctor for it because she was terrified that he was going to have a heart attack during one of those attacks!

It was hilarious in a way and perfectly awful in another. One of his guys was telling me the other day that he is now using CPAP and doing really well. And, thankfully, so am I!


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I really like keeping Rescue Remedy in my house at all times.  It can stop an anxiety attack in its' tracks.



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I really like keeping Rescue Remedy in my house at all times.  It can stop an anxiety attack in its' tracks.


Which version do you use, Victoria?


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NewHamshireGirl: I do have issues with my thyroid. I'm not aware as of yet how severe. I have not been back for a follow up or anymore test since I did my Iodine therapy. The last time I saw my licensed drug dealer, he told me that some of the blood test they did was for my thyroid and there was a problem. I don't have the details yet, because I wanted him to run another test since he was so anxious to put me on some drug that he claims I would have to take the rest of my life. I will get the details on the test and the results after my next one. As for taking drugs the rest of my life....he would have to say I would die very soon if I didn't. I would still get a 2nd,3rd,4th & 5th opinion before even considering going that route.

D.L.: Once make pulse rate gets to 90bpm or above, I have to be doing some serious breathing or my heart will start fluttering. If my breathing isn't in sync with my pulse rate, thats when thing go bad.

Victoria:
That is good stuff, and I carry some with me all the time, but I do find it a little to mild once my adrenaline is pumping. When my adrenaline starts going, even the xanax doesn't have a chance. Bach does make some good products.

Joyce: I was talking about maybe replacing the atenolol and xanax with propanalol. I definitely would not take all of those. I don't even know if I will try propanalol, but based on some of the recommendations here, I will inquire about it. If it can replace both of them, then that gets me off one more drug, and that"s one step closer.

Spring: I dig what your saying, and I am taking a very small amount each day. My dealer wrote on the prescription to take 2-3 pills daily. I take at the most 1/2 a pill 3 times daily. This is .25mg and I turned down his offer to increase the dose a few months ago. The thing is I don't get panic attacks until my heart starts skipping on me. I still don't really worry so much until it becomes constant, that's when I panic, and that makes it worse, in which case I panic more and so on going on the downward spiral to doom. I honestly think that the beta blocker and xanax (being such small doses that I'm taking) are little more than placebos, in which case they are a crutch. As I said before, right now I believe in crutches.

I do respect all of your opinions and am very grateful that anyone would take the time to share them with me. I don't mean to come across that I don't. Communications is much more difficult for me typing it out, and much more impersonal. I you could hear me verbally, it wouldn't sound so much like I was disagreeing with you. Thanks folks! I mean it.  



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Which version do you use, Victoria?


I buy the bottles and make my own treatment bottles by adding 5 drops to 2 oz of filtered water in a separate clean dropper bottle.  Once blended, I keep the treatment bottle in the refrigerator.



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Xanax -- oh, boy. It is so addictive and it gets to the point where enough is never enough.


Yes try to get off this drug first and foremost.. It causes so many problems .. but go slow.. ask your doctor to advise on how ..

keep the other drug for when you ned it.. and then take it..

As for the arithmia.. it will get better as you live better.. having the oxymeter makes all the difference... it will provide security.  And in the interim heed all the advice you see as pertinent. All the best..      


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