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Dr. D
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I had fun playing with it – not that I knew what I was actually reading about, but the geek in me liked it.


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I sent a PM asking about how some of those work. Just saying... since you probably get a few hundred a day.

Right now I am working on a paper for school concerning mapping. I am concentrating on the idea of holistic view, through algorithms as opposed to reductionist single sets of information within maps.
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I sent a PM asking about how some of those work. Just saying... since you probably get a few hundred a day.

Right now I am working on a paper for school concerning mapping. I am concentrating on the idea of holistic view, through algorithms as opposed to reductionist single sets of information within maps.

Can you glean any answers from the User's Guide where Dr. D. talks about some of the theory behind datapunk and Quod.?

http://www.datapunk.net/quodlibet/Quodlibet_User_Guide_1.pdf


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I will go through the user guide but I think my questions are a bit more than it is going to talk about.
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<3 it! -- the quote and your work!


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Not sure where to ask this but does Dr. D's post on FB today about autophagy and IBD (specifically Crohn's) mean that something like Trehalose is useful in treatment for those conditions?
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The user guide was good, but my big question is still out there.
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Not sure where to ask this but does Dr. D's post on FB today about autophagy and IBD (specifically Crohn's) mean that something like Trehalose is useful in treatment for those conditions?
Jane

I think the multi-part post pin-pointed some of the cause as well as the cure.  For Secretors, much of the cause is harmful dietary lectins, so it is important to keep these out of the diet.  Another part of the cause is failure of autophagy induction (starting).  

Part of the cure, according to the article, is to stimulate autophagy.  Trehalose does this independent of the calorie restriction requirements of the MTOR gene.


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The user guide was good, but my big question is still out there.

Unfortunately, since the question was in a PM, no one else knows what it is, so can't begin to answer..


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I was essentially asking how his algorithm changes allow re-construction of networks as opposed to re-creation of them, by changing values. The idea being not to eliminate the first set of information but combine it to the second. Perhaps it is just be averaging, but I imagine it is more complicated involving cross-referencing etc.
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Without access to the source code or knowledge of what modules Dr. D. has utilized from CPAN, I can't help with that...

I do know that we are copying the data from the Kegg maps into Quodlibet.  Once they are copied in, his software draws them, does the calculations he wants and links all of the information from the various databases to specific nodes.

I only go through this explanation to possibly answer that he is essentially recreating them in his software by copying the maps into Quod...


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Reading some of the studies cited above is confusing.  I'll just trust Dr. D.
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I was essentially asking how his algorithm changes allow re-construction of networks as opposed to re-creation of them, by changing values. The idea being not to eliminate the first set of information but combine it to the second. Perhaps it is just be averaging, but I imagine it is more complicated involving cross-referencing etc.


You're describing what are known as Bayesian Networks, where the  a posteri probablity is the starting point (plus any new data) for the a priori probability. This is a common computational algorithm in networks, but is not used the Datapunk platform.


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