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Rochelle
Sunday, March 27, 2011, 10:30am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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So, I did the Explorer liver detox on Friday night. Well, when I say I did it, I ate salad and fruit only after midday, drank 4 x 8oz glasses of organic apple juice throughout the day and did the lemon juice and olive oil before bedtime. However, I was unable to purchase castor oil (have ordered some online now) so couldn't do the castor oil pack.

I keep reading that people feel great afterward, but I felt horrendous. I could feel a headache developing on Friday evening and then I woke on Saturday with the most horrible headache I've had in a long time. Because I needed to get on with things, I took aspirin in the morning, which didn't help, and ibuprofen in the afternoon (which I never take!). That did the job and now (Sunday morning) I have only a slight headache. However, I expect the effects on my liver detoxifying the medication cancelled out any good I might have done with my failed liver detox  

Now ... I am wondering why I felt so awful when others feel so great? Could it be because I couldn't do the castor oil pack? Or could it be because I haven't quite managed to quite caffeine, and the headache was caffeine withdrawal? Or something else? I have one coffee and one black tea (and several green teas) a day. On the liver detox day I had my coffee first think in the morning, and no more caffeine all day, so I guess caffeine withdrawal is a likely candidate.

Do any other folks have any stories of doing the liver detox that were difficult, or is it just me? To be honest, I've been put off having another go.  

Thank you in advance for your thoughts/stories!  
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Hi Rochelle,
Detox doesn't always feel very good. Many people have a host of symptoms and are quite uncomfortable. I think the worse you feel, the more toxins you are releasing. Living in a house with coffee drinkers, I can tell you after a certain amount of hours, they complain of headaches that don't go away until they get their fix.

If you try again, be prepared with some natural remedies for headaches. An ice pack and a hot shower both work well.

Lisa


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Thanks  for speaking out Rochelle.

The detox has not worked for me as I had hoped, although never with the issues you have suffered.  Perhaps, with a little experimentation, the detox can be refined for the bloodtype of the Explorer.  The castor oil pack is probably an important part of the process.  If you feel up to it, you should try the detox with the castor oil to see if it will work for you.

I have had a similar result to the best that the detox can do, but it happened spontaneously.  It would be great if we could get this working more reliably for people.


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I don’t do the liver detox as often as I should because I don’t like the messy castor oil pack.  But when I’ve done it, I did not have any negative side effects.  Drink some green tea to alleviate your caffeine withdrawal.  Try to replace your coffee & black tea with green tea.


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don t give up guys.....it only gets better, with time and compliance

the more fixing you need, the less comfortable a cleansing gets

don t mess up the process by drinking coffee, if an O
or taking meds to deal with a detox headache......

visualize your liver as the filtering device in a sophisticated machinery complex.....

you want to run only the purest substances through your bile ducts.


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I don't own a copy of GTD, but I'm thinking I may benefit from doing that detox when the week of shiva is over. Right now, I'm not cooking any of my own foods, and while I'm avoiding wheat and obvious corn, I'm also consuming a lot of avoids right now (including milk chocolate friends brought over, and some chocolate pudding and vanilla ice cream that were my Dad's favorites. We ate them in his honor.) Plus people brought over Israeli salad (tomatoes and cucumbers) and there's vinegar and possibly corn syrup and likely avoid oils in various salad dressings from ready-made salads. Right now, it's more important that I eat, and get enough vegetables, than that I'm super careful about additives.

A more formal detox might be a good idea late this week or early next week. What exactly is the protocol for it?


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with any cleanse  -  you must have good elimination  - -  All those toxins need to move out of the body or they are reabsorbed.
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An enema or colonic the next morning probably would have helped.  I've done that with the more intense types of liver flushes like Hulda Clark's.  
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I don't think that we really need any detox thingies while being on BTD/GTD... it's a super cleanse by itself while eating accordingly 4 our types....
but what might sustain our body is silymarin, tons of greentea& freshly shnippled ginger slices and of course NO chemical bombes as painkillers... instead here please go for aminoacids...like l'tyrosine &l'phenylalanine,l'arginine while being an AB or a B, and for a fine cell detox..l'acetylcarnitine &  alpha lipoic acid (up from 300mg's).....


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I found that not drinking coffee resulted in me feeling calmer and improved my outlook.  A good outlook improves success.  So for me, staying away from coffee may enhance my success in life in the end.

It's too bad i started drinking the dang stuff again!  
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if you meditate long enough on the issue, you ll quit for good
the coffee drinking, I mean


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good idea Lola, I stopped it since 2006 completely and feel really superbe  


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Thank you, everyone, for your replies. I have had a headache for several days now, since the liver detox - I feel almost better today, thank goodness!  

It is sobering to think that the more you need to detox, the more discomfort you are likely to experience while doing it ... it is becoming clearer and clearer to me over time that I need to be more serious about my food choices ...

SO ... I would like to have another attempt at the detox in a few weeks, but in the meantime I will quit coffee and black tea, which I think will go a long way to dealing with the headache issue. I am now armed with Castor oil, which I ordered online. I have also ordered the Explorer 3 pack (activator, catalyst and fish oil formula) and some Polyflora which I will start taking that as soon as they arrive. Also, I'll look into the suggestions for dealing with symptoms of detox.

Thank you again  
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Quoted from Amazone I.
I don't think that we really need any detox thingies while being on BTD/GTD... it's a super cleanse by itself while eating accordingly 4 our types....
but what might sustain our body is silymarin, tons of greentea& freshly shnippled ginger slices and of course NO chemical bombes as painkillers... instead here please go for aminoacids...like l'tyrosine &l'phenylalanine,l'arginine while being an AB or a B, and for a fine cell detox..l'acetylcarnitine &  alpha lipoic acid (up from 300mg's).....



I agree no bombies!  Make love not war   Good point about painkillers seriously Isa!  Hope you are well.  BTW call me silly but what is silymarin?


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Some days I just eat fruit for most of the day and only yogurt so I guess that's a kind of detox.  

Around 10pm is when the liver regenerates so it's good not to eat a big meal too late.  I crave antioxidants at that time.  Sometimes I have chocolate, goji or milk thistle (I crave sometimes), nightly zinc (25mg) and selenium.  When I first started the selenium I felt terrible for a while (fatigue etc.) sure it was doing a heavy metal detox so I worked on my liver at the same time.  Now the amalgum fillings aren't bothering me so much.  

Still haven't tried the explorer liver detox but I'm guessing it will be good as the other methods above have probably done the trick.


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BTW call me silly but what is silymarin?

Silymarin is the active ingredient of Milk Thistle Extract.  Good for helping Liver and Kidney function...  Also included in DPN's Hepatiguard.


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Thanks ABJoe and Lola!


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Anyone notice an improvement with acne the more they do these detoxes? I'm getting dreadful acne. I'm finally giving up milk, gave up wheat entirely over a year ago. Very little corn in my diet. Lots of water...still the one cup of coffee a day. Really want something to work on my skin. It's horrible.


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Your skin is the largest detox organ in the body...  The more toxins you put in, the more it has to clean out...  I know it is tough to hear, but thems the facts...  


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Dandelion tea is helping my liver every day btw.  It's really good!  I have one roasted with chicory and I think it helps me make bile as well as detox.


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Misspudding, in my experience coffee causes inflammation on the skin of my face - primarily on my nose and across my cheeks. Not bad, just redness and small bumps, but I definitely notice a difference, and that is going from only one cup of coffee a day to none.

I have just quit coffee again, as I said I was going to in my previous post in this thread. This is my second coffee free day and I'm feeling fine. I'm replacing it with black tea for now, and in a few days I'll replace the black tea with green tea. Baby steps  
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Good to know, Rochelle.

Yeah, it's hard to hear. I really don't do milk anymore, but I totally use that coffee as a crutch.


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