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Edward
Sunday, January 30, 2011, 7:23pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Does anyone have any info about this? What about (inexpensive) vegan protien?
Also, I would like more info on herbs, specifically Northern/Western Europe and Northeastern US as applies to nomads. Also, what foods provide the proper probiotics for nomad/ B+?
Thanks
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Does anyone have any info about this? What about (inexpensive) vegan protien?
Also, I would like more info on herbs, specifically Northern/Western Europe and Northeastern US as applies to nomads. Also, what foods provide the proper probiotics for nomad/ B+?
Thanks


Hi Edward,
I was vegan for a couple of years, plus vegetarian for 20 years.  I honestly don't recommend it because my health eventually suffered a lot.  But I can understand the choices that people may make for ethical purposes.

Your best bet is to get a copy of LR4YT and try and eat as many superfoods and diamonds as possible.  There will be a lot that your body needs as a type B Nomad that you won't be getting, so try and get as much as you can that is good for you.

The very best probiotic is the list you will find on the Polyflora B.  If for some reason you can't get that product, you can work from that list and find your own source.  http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT003B



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Edward:
I have to stand with Victoria here and say that Nomad health is far, far better with animal protein included. I don't know your age or anything else about you, but consider this. I went through a couple of vegetarian/modified-vegetarian phases in my life, too. For sheer energy alone, some meat/fish/eggs is important.

Now let me qualify it in a way you may like: I do find that I'm comfortable without meat for a couple of days at a time sometimes. I think some of us need less meat than others do. So you might experiment with a small piece of fish a couple of times a week and see what that does for you. Or a little poultry. Eggs here and there from time to time, you know? When I follow the recommendations for meat, I tend to feel overloaded with it after a while and need to take a break from it. So moderating your animal protein intake to somewhat less than the recommendations can work, too.


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Edward
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Thanks.
Why then, is say goat milk/meat not on the superfoods list?
Most of the heatding tribes ate soft cheese, etc., as opposed to aged cheese,  dodn't they?
If one really wanted to be true to this, then you can have meat...but you have tochase it down, kill, amd eat  the animal with your bare hands/teeth. No cheating - the ultimate in nutricious  fast food.  
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Quoted from Edward
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Why then, is say goat milk/meat not on the superfoods list?
Most of the heatding tribes ate soft cheese, etc., as opposed to aged cheese,  dodn't they?
If one really wanted to be true to this, then you can have meat...but you have tochase it down, kill, amd eat  the animal with your bare hands/teeth. No cheating - the ultimate in nutricious  fast food.  


Goat meat is a superfood on the Nomad list.



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Goat meat is a superfood on the Nomad list.


And delicious to boot!
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Quoted from Edward
Does anyone have any info about this? What about (inexpensive) vegan protien?

Anybody who has The Genotype Diet book should have this information...  It is in a list in the Nomad section of the book...



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Anybody who has The Genotype Diet book should have this information...  It is in a list in the Nomad section of the book...



That's right, page 274 - 275 in my hardbacked Genotype book.  Vegetable Proteins.



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And delicious to boot!


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You have to cook it one of two ways: fast and hot but not too long or slowly and at a low temperature. The first would be to take a steak and season it then grill it on a barbeque grill till it is medium rare but not more done than medium. The second is braising it in a dutch oven or slow cooker. I'm not familiar with acceptable marinades and seasonings for A's but marinating it in yogurt and curry spices really works for B's.
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You have to cook it one of two ways: fast and hot but not too long or slowly and at a low temperature. The first would be to take a steak and season it then grill it on a barbeque grill till it is medium rare but not more done than medium. The second is braising it in a dutch oven or slow cooker. I'm not familiar with acceptable marinades and seasonings for A's but marinating it in yogurt and curry spices really works for B's.


Thanks, I'll have to try it.


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None of Dr. D'Adamo's diets are vegan. Even the Warrier diet, which is the lowest in meat, still includes animal protein (egg, fish, cheese, or poultry) about once a day.

While properly following the Nomad Diet, you can certainly have vegan snacks and vegan meals- as long as you also have some meals that include animal protein. Take a look at the portion sizes recomended in the book and do your best to follow them. If you're looking for ideas for vegan meals and snacks, see what vegetable proteins are listed for your type. Also don't forget to eat enough vegetables (AKA "live foods") and fruits.

If you're already a vegan and want to switch to the Nomad diet, you'll have to modify it. If you're not eating any of the animal foods recomended in the book, then you need to increase the portions of vegetable protiens and fats to compensate- and even then, you're not likely to see the same health results as you would if you included animal foods in your diet.


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I have the least amount of animal protein allowed, being a Warrior. My beneficial foods are, that I get fish 3 x a week, I also can have 1 egg a day and yogurt, paneer, cottage cheese and kefir.
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Quoted from Edward
Does anyone have any info about this? What about (inexpensive) vegan protien?
Also, I would like more info on herbs, specifically Northern/Western Europe and Northeastern US as applies to nomads. Also, what foods provide the proper probiotics for nomad/ B+?
Thanks


Edward, what made you look into the Genotype diet? Did you not feel well as a vegan?  My son is a B Nomad, and he doesn't feel well if  he doesn't have meat.
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Suppose I'll have to stock up on yak butter soup...
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Suppose I'll have to stock up on yak butter soup...


Edward, you may need to walk by a barbecue grill that's got some lamb chops goin'. Or prime strip steaks or T-bones, y'know? The smell of that meat'll get you interested. Because just thinking about it isn't succeeding.

Ease your way toward it, and start with small portions, but - the difference is really pronounced, said the Nomadess.



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The locals are grass/corn-fed, I'll wait till they slow dpwn. Meanwhile nuts and gruel seems to work. One reason I started this was for horrible gas, and except for beans, has mostly subsided; some foods like onions and garlic are reported to be anti-bacterial, so perhaps that has an effect on colon flora and fauna, but as seasoned as mexican food is, that didn't stop the bean-loving bacteria from chowing
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Edward, I am a vegetarian B+ Nomad - I have found that drinking licorice root tea with beans helps reduce the gas.
If you have concerns about animal welfare, perhaps you could keep a chicken for the eggs? That way you would know she was being humanely treated.

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Beans need to be cooked with Kombu ( Eden foods) to reduce the gas


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Welcome Edward & Kelly.  Where are you from?  My son is a Nomad and I can’t imagine him as a vegetarian.  I don’t know the differences in degrees.  Can Vegan have milk?  My son says it makes him feel good.  He’s not lactose intolerant.   Can you have cheese?


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I'm in East Texas. I became a vegetarian about 6 or 7 years ago, for ethical reasons, so I will not be going back to eating meat. Vegetarians generally will eat eggs and/or dairy products, but vegans will not. My health had neither gotten better nor worse since I became a vegetarian, but I am generally healthy and on no medications at the age of 47. My only real "health problem" is that I need to lose about 30 pounds.


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One reason I started this was for horrible gas, and except for beans, has mostly subsided;

Some ginger cooked with the beans or some Polyflora B would probably help repopulate the good gut flora so this wouldn't be an issue...  

It does take some time to get the gut happy.  The benefits you have already seen may be due to stopping ingesting the avoids and over time, it will correct by itself, or you can help it with the Polyflora...


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I My only real "health problem" is that I need to lose about 30 pounds.


Losing weight as a vegan may be tough as a B . Being overweight at 47 is not the same as 25, by 47 women are entering perimenopause and things get complicated. Hormones and stress  

Taking weight off initially may be easy as you get rid of many of the aviods but get harder as you reach your goal.

I work  as a nurse in Endoscopy.. I see a whole bunch of young B's with GI distress that are vegetarian.



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I work  as a nurse in Endoscopy.. I see a whole bunch of young B's with GI distress that are vegetarian.


I became a vegetarian for ethical reasons, many years ago.  The first couple of  years, I liked how I was feeling;  my skin seemed to glow and I felt clean inside.  I was eating a lot of grains, cheese, fresh vegetables, homemade yogurt and beans.  I began to lose my muscle tone and develop digestive problems.  I started seeing my weight slowly creeping up, while my digestion became more sensitive and uncomfortable.  I was also finding myself depressed and moody a lot of the time.  6 years into my vegetarian lifestyle, my appendix ruptured.  

I continued with the vegetarian life for another 15 years, gaining more weight and losing more muscle.  I had chronic loose stools for 10 years and was having poor quality of sleep.  I gained a total of 30 pounds over those 20 years.  Finally I found myself with breast cancer and serious chronic fatigue.  That was nearly 13 years ago.  

Fortunately I met someone who was eating for their blood type and I jumped onboard.  I didn't know how my body would handle meat after so many years, but it was like someone had turned on all the lights and my cells woke up.  I've had a lot of healing to do and the good news is that it is working powerfully.  I've dropped all the weight easily and I sleep like a baby.  I haven't had any issues with depression and mood for years now. I really gave the vegetarian diet my best shot.  I don't do anything half way, so I hung in there with it a lot longer than I should have.



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