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Andrea AWsec
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Here is my take on this thing... now of course I have nothing to back it up.

Mom has poor gut flora.... baby gets poor gut flora cause mom had bad flora.. ( baby is formula fed)... or breast milk lacks essential flora

Baby gets vaccines... gut leaks nasties into body from the vaccines.
Suddenly baby has autism.


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All sorts of things we can do to mess up the body's natural balance. Probably multiple causes.

Dr. Blaylock was extremely concerned with giving all the pregnant mothers both flu and swine flu vaccines last year. Never have they given 2 vaccines in one season and also the H1N1 was untested and I think there were contamination issues in Europe if I remember correctly.

He felt that the vaccines were worse than if the mother got the flu and instead suggested staying home, washing stuff, etc. He also realized that the whole H1N1 was all blown out of proportion. He predicts a massive autism spike. He also stated that he wouldn't be surprised if there was a higher miscarriage rate in that group.

Interesting guy. He's written extensively about flouride and mercury.


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"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Heartbreaking.  It really is.


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http://memo.cgu.edu.tw/cgmj/3204/320414.pdf

Most of the pubmed stuff that I'm hitting with search words casein and gluten are relating to autism. The abstracts are pretty easy to understand.

Just for the curious.

This one had a free full article. Not blood type specific.


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My son didnt do well on B6, it uppset his stomach so we stopped giving him it. We tried so many things back when he was younger but didn't really see much difference. One supplement we tried was called DMG and  had alcohol in it but we saw some positive results although it upset his stomach too.
I will check the OASIS message boards, thanks.
Which B6 did you try? It may have been something in the particular capsule/tablet that upset him?! Often what it is bound with, what is in the capsule ingredients, including the gelatine part of the capsule itself can effect ppl...

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We do DMG as well.  Thanks.

Interesting anecdote about DMG.  We started giving it to her when she was about 4.5 years old.  At the time, our DD was taking a long time to outgrow diapers because she continued to wet the bed at night.  After several months of using DMG (a solid, sublingual tablet), I decided it wasn't helping, so I stopped giving it to her.  Next morning I noticed her diapers were lighter (less pee-soaked).  Seven days later, she was waking up dry, and we finally could stop buying them.

I give her DMG now, though, because she seems to catch colds less frequently when she takes it.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Which B6 did you try? It may have been something in the particular capsule/tablet that upset him?! Often what it is bound with, what is in the capsule ingredients, including the gelatine part of the capsule itself can effect ppl...

P5P is the recommended form of B6 for those who either can't tolerate B6 or can't assimilate it.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Autism and related dysfunctions have been said to be language specific.  This, I suspect, is a hypothesis that unintentionally hides the true nature of such dysfunctions; epigenetic potentials that are inherited which are triggered by events in the child's life.

There could be a lot of progress in analysing such dysfunctions and using diet and epigenetically targeted therapies to bring out children's development.  The fact that this is not currently being done feels like a personal affront to me.


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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Here is my take on this thing... now of course I have nothing to back it up.

Mom has poor gut flora.... baby gets poor gut flora cause mom had bad flora.. ( baby is formula fed)... or breast milk lacks essential flora

Baby gets vaccines... gut leaks nasties into body from the vaccines.
Suddenly baby has autism.


And or antibiotics.  My nephew has autistic tendencies and is 10 years old right now.  I say "tendencies" because they've never gone to a "regular" doctor who would label him as autistic.  They don't want to.  But for all intense purposes, he is.  

He was born with a pneumorthorax (a small lung puncture from birthing) and they (hospital) insisted on giving him antibiotics.  And although there could be a number of reasons why he is like this (he did have immunzations up to a certain point), my sister thinks the antibiotics early on contributed. As well as the immunizations.

I can tell you from my experience, my son, who had terrible eczama caused directly by immunizations (I can pretty much prove it, although it won't hold water with people that don't want to see it), the BTD has helped him a bunch.  But I will say this, he is allergic to so many foods, that he's not completely compliant.  We let him eat meats and things that A's aren't necessarily supposed to have. (He's an A).  Like Lamb.  But actually, that's about the only one and if he's a nonnie, which I'm not sure if he is or not, it wouldn't be an avoid.  Otherwise, he's pretty compliant.

Now, my nephew, they take him to the same MD I go to, who prescribes the BTD as a baseline starting point.  Unfortunately, my sister has a lot on her plate and makes a lot of excuses as to her compliance.  Which, she does have a lot on her plate.  But she lets my nephew eat things that I wouldn't and it pains me.  But, on the other hand, they are trying every kind of special training, and other things to try and help him.  Personally, I think he acts the best when he's more compliant with his foods.  But, it's hard for me to fully understand, because I MAKE my kids eat what they need to, and they comply.  I think it might be a little harder for her.  I'm not sure.  He's very picky.  But I can see he wants sugar and wheat.  And I wish they would cut him off.

Anyways, that's my 2 cents.  The MD we go to specializes in Autistic children and if you want more information about him, I can give it to you.  But it probably won't help all the way over there.

God bless you and try the diet.  I bet you'll see improvements.  Just make sure of his blood type.  Don't just guess.


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ABNW, I wouldn't worry about the lamb.  It's better than beef.  


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Yeah, I'm not worried about it.  A growing boy needs some good protein and fat.  He eats chicken well and thank God he's not allergic to that.  But he doesn't have a whole lot of choices and my Doctor recommended lamb.


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I would find out his blood type asap.

If he is B or AB and not A then you should get him as far away from processed sugar, corn, and chicken as possible. I would try the GFCF thing too but... chicken and corn especially (and buckwheat actually).

Without SWAMI or a clear genotype I would go with non-secreter diet for whatever blood type your child happens to be. Find out. He could be A.
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I would find out his blood type asap.

If he is B or AB and not A then you should get him as far away from processed sugar, corn, and chicken as possible. I would try the GFCF thing too but... chicken and corn especially (and buckwheat actually).

Without SWAMI or a clear genotype I would go with non-secreter diet for whatever blood type your child happens to be. Find out. He could be A.


He can't be an A because Im a B and husband is an O. he eats chicken curry almost every day which will be difficult to stop ..kids with Autism have very set routines and are very fussy eaters. Finding alternatives is very hard and very stressful ..anyway, his diet in general is ok but he won't eat fruits... I don't give him any processed food, everything is cooked from scratch.


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We let him eat meats and things that A's aren't necessarily supposed to have. (He's an A).  Like Lamb.  But actually, that's about the only one and if he's a nonnie, which I'm not sure if he is or not, it wouldn't be an avoid.  Otherwise, he's pretty compliant.
Your son might turn out to be an Explorer, in which case Lamb is a Superfood.  Our DD loves it, and we assume that she's also GT4.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Your son might turn out to be an Explorer, in which case Lamb is a Superfood.  Our DD loves it, and we assume that she's also GT4.



He probably is.  On my swami I'm one too.  But the diet is so similar to the BTD, I just stick with it.  My swami allows me more meats and I'm supposed to stay away from cinnamon.   Otherwise, it is no different.  Some of the neutrals and superfood or beneficials are flipflopped.  

Anyways, off topic.


If your son is a B, it would really be nice to try to find some turkey to make the curry.


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If he is B I would go through the fuss to break him of chicken, immediately. Turkey taste better I personally think, and emu too.
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Im making a lamb curry instead ...I read the curry paste label and luckily there is not tomato paste in it which is good if he's a B..I hope he eats it ...kids with autism can be very fussy with changes in food  


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http://autismweb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16264&sid=b666af91e060f0044b939d0cec5a9fea

Dr. D put this on his facebook page about a week ago.

Wonderful testimony!


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Andrea, that's one of my favorite testimonials. I sent it to friends and family with newly diagnosed autistic/asperger's children. Between my husband and I we both know 4 people with young autistic children. 3 out of 4 of them were interested and curious. I hope they jump into trying the diet right away.

Angela, thanks for posting the research articles. I'll pass them along as well. And thank you for the lovely picture of Daphne.
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You're welcome.


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wow great testimonial  
well it makes sense to try the BTD on any child with Autism because of the blood-brain barrier link :
http://www.autismcalciumchannelopathy.com/Blood_Brain_Barrier.html
so anything that interacts with the blood will affect the brain ...especially when most kids with autism suffer from a leaky gut.


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