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Onur
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For a blood type O nonsecretor explorer, what neutral or super foods block polyamine synthesis or lower indican levels?
For a blood type O nonsecretor hunter, what neutral or super foods block polyamine synthesis or lower indican levels?

For a blood type O secretor explorer, what neutral or super foods block polyamine synthesis or lower indican levels?
For a blood type O secretor hunter, what neutral or super foods block polyamine synthesis or lower indican levels?
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Polyamines are typically found in fermented foods like cheese beer, sauerkraut and yeast extracts. The polyamines are thought to be produced from amino acids by fermentation by enzymes formed by the micro-organisms.

Polyamines are also found in foods which through processing have had the structural integrity of their tissues 'shocked' or damaged through food preparation such as quick freezing or canning.

Putrescine: Most 'aged' or 'sharp' cheeses are very high in putrescine. Vegetables such as potatoes, canned/frozen vegetables (other than green vegetables) or certain fruit products, such as oranges and tangerines, can have very high concentrations of putrescine. Fermented soy sauce (containing wheat) is also a rich source of polyamines, particularly putrescine. Shrimp, especially the packaged and frozen types have also been shown to have high levels of putrescine.
Spermidine: Mature cheeses, fermented soybeans, fermented tea, Japanese Sake, domestic mushrooms, potatoes and fresh bread are high sources of spermidine.
Spermine: Cereals (other than bread), canned or frozen vegetables, meat products, red meat and poultry are high sources of spermine.
The polyamines putrescine, spermidine and spermine are essential for cell renewal and, therefore, are needed to keep the body healthy. Studies show the amounts of polyamines supplied by the average daily diet in Britain probably satisfies the basic metabolic requirements. The major sources of putrescine were fruit, cheese and non-green vegetables. All foods contributed similar amounts of spermidine to the diet, although levels were generally higher in green vegetables. Meat was the richest source of spermine.

Although polyamines temporarily rise in the first stages of fasting, which is probably a response on the part of the liver to the lack of dietary sources. In human subjects after a text meal of yogurt, putrescine levels in the small intestine were observed to rise about 25%.




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Food values here: http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

Many on here have talked about marinating meat in cherry juice for that reason.

The BTD Encyclopedia also has charts that list food values with some reasoning.


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I don't have Live Right 4 Your Type with me right now, but off the top of my head, I remember the following lower the levels of polyamines: walnuts, blueberries, green tea. I'm not sure about the Genotype values for those, but it seems like all would be either neutrals or superfoods.
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I found some black cherry juice and cooked some lamb with it last night. I was feeling the cold weather coming and lamb was just what I needed. The cherry juice cooked with the lamb was delicious! Cooking the lamb in the cherry juice felt like I was eating an Au Jus sauce at a fancy restaurant. My mom who is a picky eater even liked the taste of the lamb. I'm going to cook some turkey thighs in cherry juice, too. It couldn't hurt. Maybe it will lower polyamines in turkey, too?
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all BT/GT diets are polyamine lowering in fact......it has all been taken into consideration......what we need to do is simply follow our guidelines and choose the best possible sources in the food available to us.....


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Oh Sharon! I made some great beef marinated in cherry juice a few months ago. It was wonderful paired with mango rice. I'd love to try your lamb. I wonder how it would taste with rosemary added in?
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Jerome, Next time you're in my neighborhood...stop by and we'll eat cherry juiced rosemary infused lamb together! I'm serious...
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Yes, I know. Cherries, sourcherries, plums, prunes, figs, blueberries, walnuts, green tea.
And among these, for a blood type O nonsecretor explorer, only blueberries and green tea are not avoid.
By the way, blocking polyamine synthesis really helps opening veins.
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what really, really helps is for each to follow their BT/GT guidelines....
also check all the health series books, specific for each issue and so easy to follow protocols and food lists...targeted to boot!

or more specific yet....get a swami, help them measure, get in touch with Yaman, who will be able to guide you further


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Hiya, bit late to this thread but was just wondering what it is that blocking polyamine synthesis and lowering indican levels actually does?..
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Hiya, bit late to this thread but was just wondering what it is that blocking polyamine synthesis and lowering indican levels actually does?..

Here are some links to further your studies...
Polyamines: http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Polyamines

Indican:  http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Indican


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A bit late? this is from 2010


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asher, welcome!

which is your blood type?


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