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Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 12:49am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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just had a thought - when i was younger i used to sprinkle loads of table sugar on everything like strawberries, porridge, wheatabix etc, used to have pears and sterilised cream or ice cream, in Spain they roll fruit in sugar around Christmas time (where we are most winters). funny little things eh lol

so what would be thought of as a terrible diet may have actually helped - and maybe why healthish eaters are being plagued by FM whilst the great unwashed are fine until they hit 20 then it all goes wrong around the waist (20 at best) lol


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i have theory that young children have built in issue with something in relation to their cheeks, whether it being absorbed through the inner cheek or just the fact that the skin is so thin or something. looking back at some first notes of Emily's problem involved breast feeding and hot temperatures and rosey cheeks but a similar reaction to now just not as bad as now. healthy fruit eating mother making sure not to eat too much sugar. almost makes you laugh. then being made worse by vegan diet and no sweets.

bowl of sugar for M tomorrow i think. lol


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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
sources of GALACTANS (such as raffinose and stacchyose)

are baked beans lentils, chickpeas, kidney beans, black eyed beans, borlotti beans, 4 bean mix, cabbage, brussel sprouts, green beans, yellow beans, butter beans. (up to date at aug 2007).
Aaah!! Some of the things I react really badly to!!

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i have theory that young children have built in issue with something in relation to their cheeks, whether it being absorbed through the inner cheek or just the fact that the skin is so thin or something. looking back at some first notes of Emily's problem involved breast feeding and hot temperatures and rosey cheeks but a similar reaction to now just not as bad as now.
Interesting... Our daughter was just like this - unlike her brother who had no such symptoms... Daughter is probably a nonnie, or at least an explorer...quite allergic like me... whereas our son is most likely a gatherer...no issues except tendency for weight gain around tummy if consuming wheat, cheese & beer

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just spoken to diet solution in Australia wow, they are so much more up to speed than anyone re the fructose / FODMAPs thing -

actually without exception - agrees with Emily's diet completely different list to those on the internet by the way. and now reintroducing items back in. so very happy abou that.

Jaci Barrett - read all her research - way ahead of everyone i have spoken to and read about- which as you know is a lot.

http://dietsolutions.net.au/ she even arranges skype meetings at a very reasonable rate. so phone bills aren't an issue.

very impressed and as you are all aware i don't get impressed easily lol


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Sooo, I went to an out-of-town friend's going-away party last night.  I brought food, but I decided to eat some of the one thing I figured would be ok in moderation: watermelon.  It seems that I didn't use quite enough moderation.   My guts were gurgling a couple hours later, and this morning I feel dehydrated and my tongue is overrun with thrush.
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water melon big no no - Excess fructose!


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Most of the foods I have reacted to on a blood allergy profile that was done quite awhile back were
most fruits!  Now I am thinking about this fructose thing.  I love to eat dried fruit to help me "go" but now I am wondering again.  Yesterday on a hike I was eating nuts and dried cherries.  Later my gut was gurgling alot.  I had also had a "green machine" juice in the am.  Boy, I am wondering if this is even why my liver enzymes were elevated in the past.  They went down after avoiding gluten for a good amount of time, but perhaps it's still fructose and I believe maybe lactose that are problems I still need to address.  
I got a newsletter from Delicious Living Mag and there was an article about fructose and an audio link.
http://deliciouslivingmag.com/podcasts/interviews/0728-fructose-fat/

Pretty interesting, although they are mostly talking about it in reference to weight problems and liver problems....
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My liver enzymes went up to high end of range and I struggle to get them down, I'm eating a gluten/dairy/casein/yeast and most of the time cane sugar free diet.  I 've been working on my gallbladder issues which I just read can cause liver enzymes to go up.  I've been trying to follow suggestions from the Body Ecology book (they have a website) and soaking nuts and grains for 8 hours before eating and felt an improvement (not perfect) in my intestinal reactions, less aggravation.


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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TJ, are you eating any cultured vegetables?  


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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Nope, my veggies are all rednecks and trailer trash.
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And beetnicks???
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Well, I highly recommend them.  First off, they taste great.  Secondly, they help your good bacteria and they will help heal your gut.  I eat some every day.


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Maybe what "fructmal" girl said in her blog is true, about not adding more piranha's to the piranha party in your gut!  So I will be laying off the yogurt and probiotics for now, once I use up the last of the yogurt.
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Regarding the raffinose/stachiose: I've started eating navy beans again this week.  I haven't had any difficulty digesting them.  Maybe compliant beans will not offer any trouble.  Your mileage may vary, though!
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Ribbit, your mileage will definitely vary if you start eating navy beans.
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TJ - have a try of lactose free yogurt (avoiding the usual c**p in them like inulin and high fodmap fruits) or keep very simple plain yogurt down to 2 tables spoons.


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Not related to fructose, but I think I'd do better with Greek yogurt because most of the whey is strained out.
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I started looking at greet yogurt yesterday, but too much junk in the ones i was looking at.


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Cancer cells feed on fructose, study finds
Research shows the refined sugar helps cancer cells proliferate

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38528161/ns/health-cancer/


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Very interesting policymaker!! Unbelievable that "U.S. consumption of high fructose corn syrup went up 1,000 percent between 1970 and 1990*

*researchers reported in 2004 in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
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That's more than enough reason to repeal the sugar tariff.
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So, I seem to be tolerating watermelon and plums again now.

What changed?  Did I have too much gut flora? not enough fructose transport in my gut???  So weird, but thank goodness!  I was really missing out on all the wonderful watermelon that is currently in season!  I just have to be careful I don't over-indulge.
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