Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register


Main Forum Page  ♦   Latest Posts  ♦   Member Center  ♦   Search  ♦   Archives   ♦   Help   ♦   Log In/Out   ♦   Admins
Forum Login
Login Name: Create a new account
Password:     Forgot password

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    The Encyclopedia/ D'Adamo Library  ›  Eye-Opening Articles About Celiac Disease
Users Browsing Forum

Eye-Opening Articles About Celiac Disease  This thread currently has 3,390 views. Print Print Thread
3 Pages « 1 2 3 » All Recommend Thread
deblynn3
Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:56pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT2 Gatherer rh+;Prop-Taster
Ee Dan
Posts: 2,615
Gender: Female
Location: Arkansas
Age: 57
Quoted from marjorie
question: how long does it take to get the wheat out of our systems? I am still not feeling well.


That will depend on your body. Sorry not much help I know.

You can look up any food tested by clicking on the "learn more" very top, on right. Then click "Food value look up" you will find a list of foods, find the food your interested in and click on it. There is much information  for you. I would also get the ER4YT encyclopedia it is great and packed with information


Swami, 100% me..
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 25 - 60
Lola
Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 1:43am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,346
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 58
and above all, don t underestimate the power of deflect!!!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 26 - 60
Lola
Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 2:02am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,346
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 58
black pepper, if preground is full of mold


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 27 - 60
TJ
Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 2:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
"Glutened" again last night!

By a STEAK, no less.  You'd think a piece of fresh meat would be safe, but you might be wrong.  I ate half of this steak last night with some broccoli and quinoa, and 20 minutes later I had a headache and my stomach was complaining about what I'd just put in it.

At least I recognized what was happening quickly.  I knew it wasn't the broccoli or the quinoa, so I dug the steak package out of the trash can (ew ) and it was MARINATED.  It had an INGREDIENTS LIST!  Ridiculous.  The front of the package said nothing about marinade.  One of the ingredients was "natural flavoring", which I assumed was the culprit.  So I guzzled down about a pint of water and threw up everything I could get out.  Then I took some clay with a bromelain, digestive enzyme, and some ibuprophen for the headache.  Still had a headache when I woke up, my knees and ankles ached, and my eyes were red and puffy like I'd stayed up crying all night.

I am just blown away at how much more sensitive I've gotten lately.  I guess now that my gut is really starting to heal, it's complaining a lot more loudly whenever I hinder its progress.
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 28 - 60
Maria Giovanna
Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 4:34pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Teacher
Kyosha Nim
Language Expert
Posts: 1,859
Gender: Female
Location: Italy
Age: 53
The gluten damage could be quick to heal if I do not have dairy together, Gluten plus dairy is a hell; I feel as I had taken opiates for hour or a day and cold, sinusitis or otitis. Now I can implement damage control with Deflect, pineapple and cranberry ( I as a teacher use also corn) for their mannose content. Pineapple has mannose and bromeline very useful this combination. Best wishes !


INTJ Italy celiac��
Logged Offline
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 29 - 60
marjorie
Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 5:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Hunter/Aquarious/Counselor
Ee Dan
Posts: 1,628
Gender: Female
Location: Colorado
Age: 39
Interesting, I feel the same way.. I was trying goat cheese, but had to give that up--- my body just cant handle ANY dairy.

It is what it is
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 30 - 60
TJ
Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 7:34pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
Quoted from Maria Giovanna
The gluten damage could be quick to heal if I do not have dairy together, Gluten plus dairy is a hell; I feel as I had taken opiates for hour or a day and cold, sinusitis or otitis. Now I can implement damage control with Deflect, pineapple and cranberry ( I as a teacher use also corn) for their mannose content. Pineapple has mannose and bromeline very useful this combination. Best wishes !
I have been taking bromelain regularly.  Pineapple though has a lot of sugar in it, which I'm limiting right now, seeing how fructose also seems to be a hitch for me.  I don't think now that dairy is a problem, but I'm going to play it safe and stay away from it until I can test it and know for sure that, if I get sick, it's the dairy that's causing it.  Victoria said she doesn't do well on dairy.  It would be a shame to have another dairy-intolerant Nomad here!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 31 - 60
jayneeo
Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 11:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Gatherer
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 6,444
Gender: Female
Location: San Jose, CA
Age: 67
teriyaki, sorry, it probably has wheat....made from soy sauce....(soy which is not wh. free...
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 32 - 60
ABJoe
Thursday, June 24, 2010, 3:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

35% Nomad or Teacher - health history dependent
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 8,290
Gender: Male
Location: Orange County, CA, USA
Age: 51
Quoted from TJ
...so I dug the steak package out of the trash can (ew ) and it was MARINATED.  It had an INGREDIENTS LIST!  Ridiculous.  The front of the package said nothing about marinade.

I am just blown away at how much more sensitive I've gotten lately.  I guess now that my gut is really starting to heal, it's complaining a lot more loudly whenever I hinder its progress.

You've really got to watch those grocery people all the time...  They try to sneak stuff in anywhere they can.

New skin and raw nerves are much more sensitive than old...  It is just the way life is...  Think about how good you will feel when you get healed...  I know, I'm still working on it, too...


RH-, ISTJ
Wonderful Wife = A+ Teacher; Darling Daughter = A- SWAMI Explorer
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 33 - 60
TJ
Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:05am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
Quoted from ABJoe
New skin and raw nerves are much more sensitive than old...  It is just the way life is...  Think about how good you will feel when you get healed...  I know, I'm still working on it, too...
So true.  I guess these over-the-top reactions are a good sign the healing is already in progress, and that maladaptation is going away.
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 34 - 60
Possum
Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:08am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Explorer/Gatherer
Ee Dan
Posts: 5,409
Gender: Female
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Age: 53
TJ - Don't forget how good quercetin is!!!??? Magic stuff!!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 35 - 60
Possum
Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:14am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Explorer/Gatherer
Ee Dan
Posts: 5,409
Gender: Female
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Age: 53
Quoted from 10111
I never cheat with gluten.  That tiny infinitesimal amount can do damage that takes up to two years to repair or cause scarring that lasts forever.  I've even known people who have had to go on steroids because they "cheated" one too many times.  BAD GLUTEN, BAD!
Also: Bad avoids, Bad!!! Definitely the more you heal, the more quickly & worse these things affect you!!! Makes perfect sense though... I cannot believe the miniscual amount it takes though...& how long it takes to get over the effect
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 36 - 60
TJ
Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
Guys I had another odd reaction this afternoon that has me rethinking the cause of the Tuesday night/Wednesday reaction.  After work today, I received my sample package of Konsyl gluten-free psyllium fiber in the mail.  I mixed up one package in a bottle of water with a pinch of pink sea salt and a bit of bottled lemon juice, then I lay down for a short nap about 3 pm (eastern).  Again, within 20-30 minutes I had a headache and felt generally unwell (still feeling it and the headache now).  It's about 5:15 pm now.

I'm still sure it was something in the steak (the marinade) on Tuesday that caused the problem, but I doubt now that it was gluten.  The reaction from eating gluten happened Monday, and I ate the gluten Sunday morning.  These two later reactions happened much faster.  I actually felt pretty good most of Sunday!

So maybe it was citrus??   Any other ideas?
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 37 - 60
TJ
Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:45am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
FYI, here is the ingredient list for the bottled lemon juice:

lemon juice from concentrate, sodium bisulphite, sodium benzoate, lemon oil

Reading about the two sodium preservatives was enlightening.  Both are potential allergens.  Sodium bisulphite was banned from application to fresh produce in the 80s in the USA because of several deaths.

I think I have eliminated citrus as the culprit!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 38 - 60
Possum
Saturday, June 26, 2010, 3:20am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Explorer/Gatherer
Ee Dan
Posts: 5,409
Gender: Female
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Age: 53
TJ When I first read this latest reaction, I was gonna put my money on the preservatives in the lemon juice!! Then I saw you had reached that conclusion... Gotta be sooo careful eh being a nonnie!!??
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 39 - 60
TJ
Saturday, June 26, 2010, 10:20am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
Quoted from Possum
Gotta be sooo careful eh being a nonnie!!??
Good grief YES!!!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 40 - 60
TJ
Saturday, June 26, 2010, 10:25am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
I also recalled that I didn't have such a reaction with grapefruit.  Those preservatives can really mess with your brain!  But just to make sure, after I had that insight I juiced a fresh lime I had in my fridge and drank down the juice, and I didn't have a reaction to that, so citrus is NOT (thankfully) the problem!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 41 - 60
paul clucas
Saturday, June 26, 2010, 5:55pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami-fied Explorer! INTP
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 1,795
Gender: Male
Location: Niagara Peninsula, On
Age: 47
Buy lemons (organic if possible) and squeeze them yourself.

Drinking lemon water in the mornings, the wonderful experience of smelling the freshly cut lemon makes the unpleasant business of waking up (fully) more enjoyable.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 42 - 60
TJ
Saturday, June 26, 2010, 6:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
Waking up in the morning is only unpleasant if I ate something I shouldn't have, or went to bed too late!  But that still sounds nice...
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 43 - 60
TJ
Sunday, June 27, 2010, 3:52am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
Here are the other ingredients in the steak I ate Tuesday night:
"Up to 12% of a solution containing water, seasoning (sea salt, evaporated cane juice, sodium carbonate, natural flavoring, sodium acetate, salt, sodium diacetate)."

Maybe it was free glutamate in the natural flavoring.

Revision History (1 edits)
TJ  -  Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:42am
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 44 - 60
Lola
Sunday, June 27, 2010, 5:31am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,346
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 58
it does do me!!!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 45 - 60
Possum
Sunday, June 27, 2010, 5:59am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Explorer/Gatherer
Ee Dan
Posts: 5,409
Gender: Female
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Age: 53
Quoted from TJ
Here are the other ingredients in the steak I ate Tuesday night:
"Up to 12% of a solution containing water, seasoning (sea salt, evaporated cane juice, sodium carbonate, natural flavoring, sodium acetate, salt sodium diacetate)." very fancy name for sugar - could this have been a problem?

Maybe it was free glutamate in the natural flavoring.
Well at least they didn't charge you extra??!! Awful lot of different salt in there??!!

Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 46 - 60
TJ
Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:44am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
Should have been a comma between "salt" and "sodium diacetate".

But yes, there sure is a lot of sodium.  No wonder it tasted so good!  From past experience, I'm 100% sure that such a small amount of sugar wouldn't be troublesome.
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 47 - 60
TJ
Sunday, June 27, 2010, 10:46pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

54% Nomad
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,486
Gender: Male
Location: Midvale, UT, USA
Age: 39
Today I brought dried banana chips for the sacrament (two of them, one for another member who has Celiac).  BUT they put it in the same tray as the bread.  I figured it would be fine.  I ate it.  Again, 15-20 minutes later I started getting a bit of a one-sided headache, and I got really sleepy.  Seriously?  Is this psychosomatic or could I really be THAT sensitive?
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 48 - 60
Lola
Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,346
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 58
you never know what is added to dehydrated or chips of any kind, no matter how natural they say they are!
I trust no one but my home made production of anything....
cut up a rice cake,  next time


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 49 - 60
3 Pages « 1 2 3 » All Recommend Thread
Print Print Thread

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    The Encyclopedia/ D'Adamo Library  ›  Eye-Opening Articles About Celiac Disease

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread