Quoted from marjorie

question: how long does it take to get the wheat out of our systems? I am still not feeling well.

That will depend on your body. Sorry not much help I know.

You can look up any food tested by clicking on the "learn more" very top, on right. Then click "Food value look up" you will find a list of foods, find the food your interested in and click on it. There is much information  for you. I would also get the ER4YT encyclopedia it is great and packed with information

and above all, don t underestimate the power of deflect!!!

black pepper, if preground is full of mold

"Glutened" again last night!

By a STEAK, no less.  You'd think a piece of fresh meat would be safe, but you might be wrong.  I ate half of this steak last night with some broccoli and quinoa, and 20 minutes later I had a headache and my stomach was complaining about what I'd just put in it.

At least I recognized what was happening quickly.  I knew it wasn't the broccoli or the quinoa, so I dug the steak package out of the trash can (ew ) and it was MARINATED.  It had an INGREDIENTS LIST!  Ridiculous.  The front of the package said nothing about marinade.  One of the ingredients was "natural flavoring", which I assumed was the culprit.  So I guzzled down about a pint of water and threw up everything I could get out.  Then I took some clay with a bromelain, digestive enzyme, and some ibuprophen for the headache.  Still had a headache when I woke up, my knees and ankles ached, and my eyes were red and puffy like I'd stayed up crying all night.

I am just blown away at how much more sensitive I've gotten lately.  I guess now that my gut is really starting to heal, it's complaining a lot more loudly whenever I hinder its progress.

The gluten damage could be quick to heal if I do not have dairy together, Gluten plus dairy is a hell; I feel as I had taken opiates for hour or a day and cold, sinusitis or otitis. Now I can implement damage control with Deflect, pineapple and cranberry ( I as a teacher use also corn) for their mannose content. Pineapple has mannose and bromeline very useful this combination. Best wishes !

Interesting, I feel the same way.. I was trying goat cheese, but had to give that up--- my body just cant handle ANY dairy.

It is what it is

Quoted from Maria Giovanna

The gluten damage could be quick to heal if I do not have dairy together, Gluten plus dairy is a hell; I feel as I had taken opiates for hour or a day and cold, sinusitis or otitis. Now I can implement damage control with Deflect, pineapple and cranberry ( I as a teacher use also corn) for their mannose content. Pineapple has mannose and bromeline very useful this combination. Best wishes !

I have been taking bromelain regularly.  Pineapple though has a lot of sugar in it, which I'm limiting right now, seeing how fructose also seems to be a hitch for me.  I don't think now that dairy is a problem, but I'm going to play it safe and stay away from it until I can test it and know for sure that, if I get sick, it's the dairy that's causing it.  Victoria said she doesn't do well on dairy.  It would be a shame to have another dairy-intolerant Nomad here!

teriyaki, sorry, it probably has wheat....made from soy sauce....(soy which is not wh. free...

Quoted from TJ

...so I dug the steak package out of the trash can (ew ) and it was MARINATED.  It had an INGREDIENTS LIST!  Ridiculous.  The front of the package said nothing about marinade.

I am just blown away at how much more sensitive I've gotten lately.  I guess now that my gut is really starting to heal, it's complaining a lot more loudly whenever I hinder its progress.

You've really got to watch those grocery people all the time...  They try to sneak stuff in anywhere they can.

New skin and raw nerves are much more sensitive than old...  It is just the way life is...  Think about how good you will feel when you get healed...  I know, I'm still working on it, too...

Quoted from ABJoe

New skin and raw nerves are much more sensitive than old...  It is just the way life is...  Think about how good you will feel when you get healed...  I know, I'm still working on it, too...

So true.  I guess these over-the-top reactions are a good sign the healing is already in progress, and that maladaptation is going away.

TJ - Don't forget how good quercetin is!!!??? Magic stuff!!

Quoted from 10111

I never cheat with gluten.  That tiny infinitesimal amount can do damage that takes up to two years to repair or cause scarring that lasts forever.  I've even known people who have had to go on steroids because they "cheated" one too many times.  BAD GLUTEN, BAD!

Also: Bad avoids, Bad!!! Definitely the more you heal, the more quickly & worse these things affect you!!! Makes perfect sense though... I cannot believe the miniscual amount it takes though...& how long it takes to get over the effect

Guys I had another odd reaction this afternoon that has me rethinking the cause of the Tuesday night/Wednesday reaction.  After work today, I received my sample package of Konsyl gluten-free psyllium fiber in the mail.  I mixed up one package in a bottle of water with a pinch of pink sea salt and a bit of bottled lemon juice, then I lay down for a short nap about 3 pm (eastern).  Again, within 20-30 minutes I had a headache and felt generally unwell (still feeling it and the headache now).  It's about 5:15 pm now.

I'm still sure it was something in the steak (the marinade) on Tuesday that caused the problem, but I doubt now that it was gluten.  The reaction from eating gluten happened Monday, and I ate the gluten Sunday morning.  These two later reactions happened much faster.  I actually felt pretty good most of Sunday!

So maybe it was citrus??   Any other ideas?

FYI, here is the ingredient list for the bottled lemon juice:

lemon juice from concentrate, sodium bisulphite, sodium benzoate, lemon oil

Reading about the two sodium preservatives was enlightening.  Both are potential allergens.  Sodium bisulphite was banned from application to fresh produce in the 80s in the USA because of several deaths.

I think I have eliminated citrus as the culprit!

TJ When I first read this latest reaction, I was gonna put my money on the preservatives in the lemon juice!! Then I saw you had reached that conclusion... Gotta be sooo careful eh being a nonnie!!??

Quoted from Possum

Gotta be sooo careful eh being a nonnie!!??

Good grief YES!!!

I also recalled that I didn't have such a reaction with grapefruit.  Those preservatives can really mess with your brain!  But just to make sure, after I had that insight I juiced a fresh lime I had in my fridge and drank down the juice, and I didn't have a reaction to that, so citrus is NOT (thankfully) the problem!

Buy lemons (organic if possible) and squeeze them yourself.

Drinking lemon water in the mornings, the wonderful experience of smelling the freshly cut lemon makes the unpleasant business of waking up (fully) more enjoyable.

Waking up in the morning is only unpleasant if I ate something I shouldn't have, or went to bed too late!  But that still sounds nice...

Here are the other ingredients in the steak I ate Tuesday night:
"Up to 12% of a solution containing water, seasoning (sea salt, evaporated cane juice, sodium carbonate, natural flavoring, sodium acetate, salt, sodium diacetate)."

Maybe it was free glutamate in the natural flavoring.

it does do me!!!

Quoted from TJ

Here are the other ingredients in the steak I ate Tuesday night:
"Up to 12% of a solution containing water, seasoning (sea salt, evaporated cane juice, sodium carbonate, natural flavoring, sodium acetate, salt sodium diacetate)." very fancy name for sugar - could this have been a problem?

Maybe it was free glutamate in the natural flavoring.

Well at least they didn't charge you extra??!! Awful lot of different salt in there??!!

Should have been a comma between "salt" and "sodium diacetate".

But yes, there sure is a lot of sodium.  No wonder it tasted so good!  From past experience, I'm 100% sure that such a small amount of sugar wouldn't be troublesome.

Today I brought dried banana chips for the sacrament (two of them, one for another member who has Celiac).  BUT they put it in the same tray as the bread.  I figured it would be fine.  I ate it.  Again, 15-20 minutes later I started getting a bit of a one-sided headache, and I got really sleepy.  Seriously?  Is this psychosomatic or could I really be THAT sensitive?

you never know what is added to dehydrated or chips of any kind, no matter how natural they say they are!
I trust no one but my home made production of anything....
cut up a rice cake,  next time