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Rex
Thursday, March 4, 2010, 12:57am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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What do all those letters mean?  How do I choose? EN...ES...IN...IS...each has after it FJ, FP, TJ, TP.  
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You don't choose.

Here's a test you can take online: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

There are other versions. That one is free and should be sufficient.

More about MBTI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator

There is quite a bit on the web if you care to search.
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I'd look at the Keirsey types instead.  It's a more complete theory, but uses the same letters.  Wikipedia has a great summary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keirsey_Temperament_Sorter

Here are the meanings of the letters:
Extroversion/Introversion, Sensing/iNtuition, Feeling/Thinking, Perceiving/Judging
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The Myers-Briggs now says I'm an ISFP. In college I was an INFJ. What gives?

Both times I STRONGLY scored in the introvert category (this time 89%). Maybe I need to go live in the country?
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Different models gave me different versions, but I finally went back to that of Keirsey model and every time I used this version, I have always been ISTP for the last 25 years!



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there are only four main types the SP, SJ,NT and NF's


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Thanks to all...I took the free test.  My results:  ISFJ
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a 9/1 personality in the enneagram .... and you are to be seen under the sj'types  so called judging types but as being an introvert, we all do the opposite of our endings... but only the introverts


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Quoted from newtypeA
The Myers-Briggs now says I'm an ISFP. In college I was an INFJ. What gives?

Both times I STRONGLY scored in the introvert category (this time 89%). Maybe I need to go live in the country?


You will change over time. Most people do, especially if any of the values are in a boderline area. Strong areas are unlikey to change enough to flip but will still read a different percentage.

Since the answers to the questions are highly subjective, your mood at the time you took the test will influence the results.
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I find it useful to read the descriptions not only of the type you test as, but all the types that are one letter off from your result.  Personally, I prefer to study the theory and decide for myself which type suits me best, rather than relying on test results which can be fuzzy.
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TJ, I disagree with that approach, we are not objective with ourselves, the questions are there to provide reality checks lest we "choose" the stuff we prefer.
The interesting thing about the inventory is it is set up so that you can be high in things that seem to conflict or low in them (hmmm) such as I score high in both extroversion and introversion (extro being higher) and some folks score low in both. Curious, but fits me perfectly. I am very extroverted but also spend time alone doing art, meditating, writing, etc.
ENFP.
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That was very interesting.  I found myself wanting a "sometimes" or "i don't know" option for a few of those questions, but I still think the results were pretty accurate.  I scored INFJ.  I read a few of the other profiles to see if I could find myself in those, and I couldn't relate too much.  I can see how it may change a bit over time because I know my answers would not have been exactly the same even five years ago.
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TJ, I disagree with that approach, we are not objective with ourselves, the questions are there to provide reality checks lest we "choose" the stuff we prefer.
The interesting thing about the inventory is it is set up so that you can be high in things that seem to conflict or low in them (hmmm) such as I score high in both extroversion and introversion (extro being higher) and some folks score low in both. Curious, but fits me perfectly. I am very extroverted but also spend time alone doing art, meditating, writing, etc.
ENFP.


I think this is more of an INTP thing. INTP's are the architects and to them the world is to be understood. If I am understanding correctly, they see the big picture first, then the details later.

No right or wrong to it. It's just the way we think and approach the world.


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I'm like that too, Captain Janeway! I love to understand the overall picture. Consider the inventory to be a tool of the architect.
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That was very interesting.  I found myself wanting a "sometimes" or "i don't know" option for a few of those questions, but I still think the results were pretty accurate.  I scored INFJ.  I read a few of the other profiles to see if I could find myself in those, and I couldn't relate too much.  I can see how it may change a bit over time because I know my answers would not have been exactly the same even five years ago.


Me too! I really wanted a "sometimes". As I was taking the test I was asking
myself if I was answering honestly. Not on purpose, but sometimes I think I was
answering what I THOUGHT I was like in my head, but maybe wasn't really me.




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please remember, our psychograms are only our so called *favoured* roles whith which we are dealing with the outer world, but ther's muchmore in our personal type (s) ....


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The MBTI Step II (a paid report) gives you results based on facets within each preference.  The online free testing gives the broadest interpretations.  

Each facet has 2 opposite poles.  You are most likely to favor the pole that is on the same side as your overall preference.  

For any particular facet, you might favor a pole that is opposite to your overall preference or on the same side as your overall preference.  Knowing your preferences on these 20 facets can help you understand your unique way of experiencing and expressing your type.

For instance I am an ENTJ that has out of preference behaviour on the J/P facets, as I prefer to be pressure prompted, spontaneous and emergent.  Because the scores are midzone on those facets, I end up with the letters ENTJ when I often test ENTP on the shorter tests.

Extraversion
Initiating, Sociable, congenial, introduce people
Expressive, demonstrative, easier to know, self revealing
Gregarious, seek popularity, broad circle, join groups
Active, interactive want contact listen and speak
Enthusiastic, lively energetic, seek spotlight


Introversion
Receiving, reserved, low-key, are introduced
Contained, controlled, harder to know, private
Intimate, seek intimacy, one on one, find individuals
Reflective onlooker, prefer space, read and write
Quiet, calm, enjoy solitude, seek background


Sensing
Concrete, exact fact, literal tangible
Realistic, sensible, matter-of-fact, seek efficiency
Practical, pragmatic, results-oriented, applied
Experiential, hands-on, empirical, trust experience
Traditional, conventional customary tried and true

Intuitive
Abstract, figurative, symbolic, intangible
Imaginative, resourceful, inventive, seek novelty
Conceptual, scholarly, idea-oriented, intellectual
Theoretical, seek patterns, hypothetical, trust theories
Original unconventional different new and unusual



Thinking     
Logical, impersonal, seek impartiality, objective analysis     
Reasonable, truthful, cause-and-effect apply principles     
Questioning, precise, challenging, want discussion     
Critical, skeptical, want proof, critique     
Tough, firm, tough minded ends oriented     

Feeling
Empathetic, persona, seek understanding, central values
Compassionate tactful sympathetic, loyal
Accommodating approving want harmony
Accepting, tolerant, trusting, give praise
Tender, gentle, tender hearted, means oriented

Judging     
Systematic, orderly, structured, dislike diversions     
Planful, future focused,      
Early Starting, motivated by self discipline, steady progress, late start stressful     
Scheduled, want routine, make lists, procedures help     
Methodical, plan specific tasks, note subtask, organized     


Perceiving
Casual, relaxed, easygoing, welcome diversions
Open-ended, present focused, go with the flow make flexible plans
Pressure prompted, motivated by pressure, bursts and spurts, early start unstimulating
Spontaneous, want variety, enjoy the unexpected, procedures hinder
Emergent, plunge in, let strategies emerge, adaptable.

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The funny thing about the quizzes is that I understand the theory and questions well enough that I can make it come out as any type I want.
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TJ, yes anyone can falsify the outcome, but the interesting part is finding out about your true preferences without falsifying the type.
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Is that....manipulation?  


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Hi Ribbit:

I do a lot of interpretations for people on the MBTI and I find some men who have F will often falsify type by answering more like a T.

I find young adults who are under stress and cannot find their place in life will often answer what they think their parents or peers want them to answer.

Believe it or not many gay people will often falsify type until they decide to come out in their orientation as well as their type.  

I don't think it is manipulation, more not answering for who they are.
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So basically the test results may not be accurate, depending on mood or perceived expectations or whatever. Plus I don't think any of us really sees ourselves objectively, so how do we trust our own answers?

You know, I've spent years trying to figure myself out through tests--career tests, enneagram, MBTI, color tests, ad nauseam...and I've come to the conclusion that all my navel-gazing has done nothing to get me closer to my goal than when I started. Is self-analysis just a waste of time?
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The reliability and validity of the testing is very high.  If a person questions his or her type, it is best to consult with a professional to pinpoint why the fit is not good.

I think the majority of people see themselves objectively.  I work with many different personalities and all of them are very good at knowing what their preferences are instinctively sometimes it needs some coaxing to come out.

I question what is the goal you are trying to reach?  As Gallup so wonderfully puts it, a 5'2" female might have a goal of reaching the NBA, but the reality is that she doesn't have the physical attributes or more than likely the talent to reach that particular goal. So goals need to be assessed within the talents and personality of the individual.

I had a goal about 10 years ago to become a nutritional consultant.  I enjoyed the school work but when I actually had to sit down with people and coach them through their food choices, I literally hated every minute of it.  I like telling people what to do, I don't like cajoling people. I also didn't like the slow pace of how things moved.  

My goal wasn't correct for my personality and my talents.  I went back to running a business and I am thriving, the days when I have more desk bound chores are my worst days, the days I am working with clients, vendors or employees are my happiest days.

I have found out through MBTI, that I have to honor my ENTJness in spite of being a female, when I was a teenager, I was embarrassed that I was always put in charge automatically (not a good thing for boy girl relationships).  Found out in my 20's it was who I was as a leader.  I also found out that I was an OK mother, albeit not overly affectionate, but someone who could built "independently" thinking kids.  

I have learned to accept people different from myself and work to find out where their true talent lie.

If you expect a miracle of something wonderful happening through testing, it's just not going to happen.
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Based on my own experience, Jeanb, is right and I think one reason why we often get different results on the tests are due to the different models and their way of formulating the questions. I also got different results on other tests except on the one (the one Jeanb has mentioned). As Jeanb says, the point is to discover yourself with your deep rooted preferences and know their implications in day-to-day interactions, decision making, problem solving and so on.



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jeanb, you have some very good points.

No, I don't expect miracles, but after more than a decade of taking different tests and a lifetime of introspection, I'm still struggling to find clarity, answers, convergence. I don't know how to take the results of various tests and integrate them into a career or lifestyle. Maybe I need to stop trying to figure it all out myself--that might be where my problems are coming from.

My post was a bit harsh, I know. I guess I was speaking from a place of discouragement. My hope was that this stuff would have been worked out by the time I left my twenties.
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