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YouDa1
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I have been on the Geno Diet for going on over 7 months now and I still have not lost any weight. Only to have gained 5 pounds in the beginning and still not able to lose them along with the additional 10-15 pounds that I orginally wanted to lose. I have been keeping track of my calorie level to see if that is my problem. I get anywhere from 1200-2300 calories a day. I do excercise by walking the treadmill anywhere from 30-50 minutes 3-5 times a week. I have heard so many success stories and sure would like to be one of them too but am disappointed that as I am going through this menopause I have changed my eating alot and no longer consume the bad foods that I would have had some weight change. I have measured myself only to see that it is all still the same. Would the swami really help me to lose the weight that I want to lose? I had such a hard time getting my measurements for the Geno diet that I am afraid I will have the wrong measurements for the swami. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I don't know what I am doing wrong. My only source of grain is oats and ry crisp and rice so I don't feel that the carbs are the problem.(which I eat very little of) Thanks for the help.
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You actually use the same measurements for the SWAMI as for the Genotype diet.  How do you feel, other than frustration at not losing weight?  If you're not feeling better (other than frustrated) you might try one of the other AB genotypes to see if you feel any difference.  Many here got there GT's wrong at first and ended up switching later.  Switching to SWAMI didn't help me lose weight any more than GTD or even BTD.  I think I like food too much, even the beneficial kind    




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Weight gain is a 'symptom' of menopause, accoeding to some sources.

This is a huge hormonal change you are going through and it may be contributing to the weight issues.

How is your health otherwise? Better, I hope. How about menopause symptoms?

A SWAMI would make some adjustment for menopause along with other individual input you provide. It's up to you.
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Are you sleeping really well at night?  If I don't keep on top of my black cohosh my night sweats get out of control and I don't sleep well at all.  It's even harder to keep on top of weight gain when your hormones are all outa whack, and I've read many places that not sleeping well will do you in, pound-wise.




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Thanks Plucky for your honesty that the Swami didn't make any difference. Yes I do feel better, I no longer crave the bread and sweets like I use to and some days I don't feel sleepy in the afternoon. I do feel better but would feel even better to get the weight off. I understand that hormones have alot to do with it and I am trying to use the foods from Dr. D's menopause book to regulate them without medication from the doctor. I was just wondering how other menopausal women are losing the weight while being on the GTD. Thanks for the help, I will keep at it. At least I am not gaining alot so thats one good thing.
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how are your sleep cycles and cortisol levels doing?

taking care of those aspects, together with compliance and lifestyle
have helped many finally let go of extra weight.

swami will definitely help achieve that goal, letting it compute your GT
and personalized plan.....you might be pleasantly surprised.


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Actually, my SWAMI is so close to the BTD O-nonnie diet that it really didn't make much difference.  On the GTD Hunter plan corn became a black-dot, one I quickly realized should have remained an all out avoid (causes intense cravings for everything).  And I got cinnamon back, but discovered that it's a major allergen for me.  SWAMI put those things back where they belonged.  Most things that I actually eat didn't change otherwise.  I admit to being a horrible "greens" eater, so I didn't pay much attention to them anyways.

As for the stupid perimenopause,  this is one area that the diet has not helped.  Night sweats are the same, but I've used black cohosh for several years to control those.  I tried going off it to see if GTD would help, but that turned out to be a nightmare.  I don't have PMS, but my severe cramping and bleeding have gotten worse.  I guess you can't have everything.

Even with all that, I wouldn't go back to my rotten eating ways for anything.  Even being "fluffy" and having cramps 1 day a month is not worth trading all the other benefits I've gained.  




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I am way past menopause and didn't gain much weight during those years but I want to tell you how
much I love my SWAMI.  What you're going to find is when you enter your weight into SWAMI, it's
going to regulate your food portions to get you to your best weight. Perhaps seeing that you have to control fat portions or carb servings might be the missing piece of your puzzle.  When I followed
the GTD book, I know I was eating too much food.  SWAMI gives me very little fat portions and I have no problem maintaining my weight or losing very slowly.  Another thing about SWAMI is those
geno harmonic food combinations. I really think everyone could benefit from SWAMI.  Best diet ever~

Have you had your thyroid checked?  Is your blood sugar normal?


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What's really cool about SWAMI is the way it tweaks your foods according to different health problems you have or that run in your family, and those matter even more as we get older.  You might find it really helpful, even if it didn't make much difference for me.  When I returned to BTD after slacking off to the point of getting really unhealthy I jumped right into GTD and then SWAMI.  Later I took the little test to see which I should do and it was highly weighted towards BTD, which probably explains why my SWAMI was close to BTD in the first place.




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I definately gained weight with menopause, about 20 lbs.
I lost 10 this last year with the GTD and I think I'm coming towards the end of the hot flashes. When I was having 20 - 30 hot flashes a day there was no way I could lose weight.

From what I've read the Adrenal glands can be over fatigued by menopause and that could be keeping the weight on. You could have your cortisol levels checked or do some research on Adrenal Fatigue. That seems to be one of my biggest issues. The more rest and vitamins I get the better I seem to get.


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yeppers I only can join in here in all those beautiful statements.... might it be that the warrior mampf might be better for you
I got also *computed* and I really was disgusted coz I thought all have to be done by correctly done measurements but no... my desription of an explorer seems to fit... even that Dr. D. asked me to get some adjustements with lr4yt... what I will do for the next
dietary issues ... and I am also in menopause... which I feel really   ... but then please realize we don't have any  re-action with elevated cortisol levels... but catecholamines!!!! So far perhaps might you want to have a little eye onto a certain intake of aminoacids.. ........


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I only gained, not lost, from BTD, GTD, and SWAMI.  I am also in menopause.  I wrote a post complaining about it all, and got in the replies that Dr. D. did not make these a weight loss program, but rather a health improving program.  I want to improve my health, but not at the expense of gaining weight.  So I am working on finding a way to lose weight and improve my health at the same time.  Once I get down enough, I will go back to my swami diet.  Of course I'm still trying to stay away from my avoids, etc., I'm just ignoring all the frequency suggestions.  GTD and SWAMI have way too many carbs and not enough protein, I believe, for me to lose weight.
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Quoted from Sharon004
I only gained, not lost, from BTD, GTD, and SWAMI.  I am also in menopause.  I wrote a post complaining about it all, and got in the replies that Dr. D. did not make these a weight loss program, but rather a health improving program.  I want to improve my health, but not at the expense of gaining weight.  So I am working on finding a way to lose weight and improve my health at the same time.  Once I get down enough, I will go back to my swami diet.  Of course I'm still trying to stay away from my avoids, etc., I'm just ignoring all the frequency suggestions.  GTD and SWAMI have way too many carbs and not enough protein, I believe, for me to lose weight.


Then I wonder if you have lots of lectin damage that took place before you tried any of these diets.  Did you ever try taking DEFLECT for your blood type? Do you drink enough water? Get
enough sleep? Are you under lots of stress? Remember high cortisol can do a lot of damage
and keep you from losing weight.

Are you possibly gluten intolerant?  Have any known food allergies? Candida? My sister who isn't on  the BTD or the GTD just found out she was gluten intolerant...On a gluten free diet, she's lost 16 pounds in a little over 2 months.  She's always had a weight problem....A toxic body is
often the problem when people aren't losing.



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Quoted from Sharon004
I only gained, not lost, from BTD, GTD, and SWAMI.  I am also in menopause.  I wrote a post complaining about it all, and got in the replies that Dr. D. did not make these a weight loss program, but rather a health improving program.  I want to improve my health, but not at the expense of gaining weight. So I am working on finding a way to lose weight and improve my health at the same time.  Once I get down enough, I will go back to my swami diet.  Of course I'm still trying to stay away from my avoids, etc., I'm just ignoring all the frequency suggestions.  GTD and SWAMI have way too many carbs and not enough protein, I believe, for me to lose weight.
IMO you will possibly never find a better way than this... Nothing is perfect; it is a matter of tweaking things to get results; as per Chloe's suggestions above
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I have just jumped on the scales for the first time in a fortnight and I nearly died.  I have gained an extra 3 kilos!!!  

I am not going to stop the program though as I am starting to feel a lot better in a number of ways.  What I will do is be more aware of the amount of meat I am taking in at each meal.  I have really enjoyed eating meat which was something I didn't do much of pre BTD so now I will just decrease the amount.  

I look forward to my next weigh in!
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Goodluck!! A few of us weigh more frequently, although others don't, simply because if things are going the wrong way it's sometimes easier to put halt to it if you discover it sooner...
Are you eating plenty of vegs with your meat? I find I don't lose unless I eat plenty of fresh salad!! Its easy to fill up on meat 'cos its yummy & usually (once its cooked) easier to chow down...
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Yes I am eating a lot of vegies and salad.  I am feeling continually satisfied after eating.  When I was having wheat I would have endless amount of bread during the day but never felt completely satisfied and full.  Now that has changed which is great!  
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Sharon 004...for me too, too much of carb but I'm a nonnie and yep menopausal issues are really concerning me   but I think I will go for the half of the recommended
stuffs and will see if that helps, including more walkins... if the snow of the last days will stop ...


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For what is worth, if one's objective is to lose weight, then one should keep strick control over the amount of food (calories) that is taken on a daily basis. Other health issues apart, if someone is gaining weight, it indicates to me that their food intake is in excess of requirement.

I think that there could be a tendecy to consider the portions advised in the books, as absolute gospel, when in fact, they are mere guidelines, which people should adapt to their particular circumstances, such as: age, body size/frame, activity, life style, amount of exercise done.

At my age, I probably don't eat even half of the recommended portions, and I've lost a good deal of weight, and I feel good...


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Fernando - When you first started eating a smaller amount than the recommended portion how hungry were you or was it just a more natural thing to eat less once you started eating the right food?
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Fernando - When you first started eating a smaller amount than the recommended portion how hungry were you or was it just a more natural thing to eat less once you started eating the right food?


I started (2 years ago) with 3 meals and 2/3 snacks a day. Currently, I still have three meals, but no snacks, instead, I have increased my intake of green tea, which I now have in between meals, as much as I need to see me through to the next meal. Also, some of my meals are currently what you would call a snack.

For instance, I'm having two peaches and 2 or 3 rice cakes with peanut butter for LUNCH, as I type this. I had a very small amount of oats with soy milk, cinnamon and honey, for breakfast, and for dinner, I'm having buckwheat (1/4 cup), some veggies, and maybe a bit of soy mince, seasoned with lots of garlic, ginger, onion and a dash of salt, and turmeric or mustard powder.

As you can see, not a lot of food for one day. I must admit that in the begining it was not easy to control, but as time went on I became used to it. Also, I should mention that I am not a big man, by any standards (1,74m tall and 71Kg).

Good luck for your exploits.


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don't get too skinny Fernando.... you need a bit stuff to go against all kinds of bugs as well... not that every little blow might become a problem....


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Ok, here is my disclamer....I've only been on the GTD for a month and so I have no idea if this stuff would be recommended by the more experienced BTD people here.  I use Cell Food's weight loss product and have great results with it.  Here is a link and you can decide for yourself if it is something you want to try.  It really does work and there are no stimulants in it.  It is a combination of two things: L-Carnitine, and Garcinia Cambogia Extract.  Everyone has to decide for themselves, but I have never had any negative reaction to this stuff...I find it very gentle and has been complimentary to what I'm doing with GTD.

http://www.luminahealth.com/products/weightloss.htm

Be well and good luck!


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I started losing right away after being very consistent, but very slowly, and now that has seemed to come to an end.  I think I lost right away because I lost all my cravings.  Unfortunately, I still love food, and have yet to learn how to eat just because I'm physically hungry.  This way of life is great for teaching what to eat and not to eat, but doesn't eliminate the reasons why we may overeat in the first place.




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Ok, here is my disclamer....I've only been on the GTD for a month and so I have no idea if this stuff would be recommended by the more experienced BTD people here.  I use Cell Food's weight loss product and have great results with it.  Here is a link and you can decide for yourself if it is something you want to try.  It really does work and there are no stimulants in it.  It is a combination of two things: L-Carnitine, and Garcinia Cambogia Extract.  Everyone has to decide for themselves, but I have never had any negative reaction to this stuff...I find it very gentle and has been complimentary to what I'm doing with GTD.

http://www.luminahealth.com/products/weightloss.htm

Be well and good luck!

That's great & congrats on the weight loss!! I would not call myself that experienced (yet)  but I, for one, would want to know all the ingredients before I took something...
All they say is its their own special blend (my words)
How can you know that long term you are doing the best for type 0...??!! Being an Explorers &  also a nonnie...I guess you would possibly have seen if there was any reaction by now...??!!
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