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 Nonnies: was your Genotype different after Swami?
Yes, I am Type A non-secretor (18 votes)
25.35%
No, I am Type O non-secretor (14 votes)
19.72%
Yes, I am Type O non-secretor (12 votes)
16.90%
Yes, I am type B non-secretor (7 votes)
9.86%
No, I am Type A non-secretor (7 votes)
9.86%
No, I am type B non-secretor (5 votes)
7.04%
Yes, I am type AB non-secretor (4 votes)
5.63%
I am a secretor who wants to participate in this poll anyways ... (2 votes)
2.82%
No, I am type AB non-secretor (1 votes)
1.41%
I still don't have enough data to be sure Swami is correct ... (1 votes)
1.41%
71 Votes Total Last vote Friday, November 16, 2012, 6:29pm by Xuxuzinha
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paul clucas
Monday, December 7, 2009, 6:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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There are many Non-secretors who have been seen their understanding of their health issues change and deepen, when Swami calculates a different Genotype.  Did Swami (either Xpress or a practitioner running Pro) surprise you?


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Heidi
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It didn't change my GT at all but it sure changed my food lists a lot. For the better  



Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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BCgal
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It didn't change my GT either, but gave me a much wider range of foods.  It incorporated alot of the BTD foods too.  I like it much better than just the straight Gatherer food lists.



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Sharon004
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Yes, swami changed my GT to Explorer.  From the book I would have been Nomad.  Plus the book gave me the impression that you are definitly the GT the charts show you to be, regardless of whether the strength testing agreed with it or not.
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Linda
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Yes.....changed me from Explorer to Gatherer....yet gave me back most of my B- Nonnie foods.


OUCH!!   My dogma was just run over by my karma!
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TJ
Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:01am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Reading the descriptions in the book, I identified much more with the Nomad GT than with any other.  However, with the measurements and the advanced calculator I was a Gatherer.  The Gatherer diet certainly didn't fit my needs.  The vanilla Nomad diet wasn't right for me either.  Anyway, SWAMI identified me as a Nomad, and my diet is a combination of the Nomad and B-nonnie BTD.  I am satisfied thus far that the SWAMI version is an improvement over either the vanilla Nomad diet and the BTD.
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Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 7:16am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

L (a-b+); Slight-Taster; INFJ; Warrior
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Explorer to Teacher.
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SWAMIED Rh+ G2-Gatherer
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TJ- what is a vanilla Nomad- haven't seen that before. Thanks!
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Raquel
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SWAMI TEACHER
Kyosha Nim
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I changed from Nomad to Teacher GT, with a mixture of nomad food list and AB noni


Teacher's motto, "all you need is love".
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Heidi
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Quoted from geminisue
TJ- what is a vanilla Nomad- haven't seen that before. Thanks!


"Vanilla Nomad" in this case would be the basic Nomad diet in the book.  




Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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Rennie
Thursday, December 10, 2009, 2:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Gatherer to Explorer.......NOT happy~!  I'll take the food list for Gatherer any day - Explorer stinks for nonnies (for my personal likes and dislikes that is).


All that we are is the result of what we have thought  (Buddha)
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Thursday, December 10, 2009, 3:11am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
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have you done your swami yet, G Nay?


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TJ
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54% Nomad
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Quoted from geminisue
TJ- what is a vanilla Nomad- haven't seen that before. Thanks!


Right on Heidi.  People in the open source software community (linux) often use the term "vanilla" to describe a software package that hasn't been modified from the original form.
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Lola - Yes, I've done SWAMI and the secreter test - confirmed nonnie.  SWAMI puts me at 39% Explorer according to my health history, measurements, etc.

It is what it is...I'm adjusting  


All that we are is the result of what we have thought  (Buddha)
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SWAMI tweaked Explorer Super Taster from Illinois
Kyosha Nim
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It kept me as an Explorer but my food list changed quite a bit.  The majority of items shifted one way left or right some changed 2 ways over.  I am closer now to my former B nonnie diet than to the generic Explorer diet.


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
SWAMI Thanksgiving present 2008
Revised from Arlene B- NonSec to RedLilac on 3/31/06
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Quoted from Sharon004
Yes, swami changed my GT to Explorer.  From the book I would have been Nomad.  Plus the book gave me the impression that you are definitly the GT the charts show you to be, regardless of whether the strength testing agreed with it or not.
Well the strength testing should have been the final arbiter, if you were not narrowed to just one in the basic or intermediate calculators.

Quoted from Heidi
It didn't change my GT at all but it sure changed my food lists a lot. For the better
When I saw the first picture of you, Heidi I knew you are an Explorer!  Although there are differences, you remind me of both my sister and my mother (when I was a tyke).


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Genotype calculations came out Gatherer, but I knew I was a Hunter, because I strength tested Hunter and the Gatherer profile didn't seem to fit.  Swami put me at around 54% Hunter.  


shine!
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Rh+ GT 4...E/..INTJ ....prop.=non-taster..
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was typed first as a warrior...then mutated to explorer.....my foodlists were constantly adapted... but didn't fit....anyway; so far I am on the recommendations of doing a mix between both BTD and GTD....but on the nonniefoodlists ....but then I think the latest given list might be the most accurat-one... so far... I'm pleased to give a try here, even with venison and some polenta ....but I assure you I won't touch any wheat,macadamian nuts ,nor pumkinseeds,sunflowerseeds nor soy products... nor blackstrap molasse....and then the super joky is,,, I can have wheatfree senape...but then other wheatproducts are allowed.... I know and remembered all kinds of wheat gave me inflammations, so far... bye..........


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Morning everyone!

I answered yes because the GTD book confirmed Teacher and I think Explorer or Nomad of which I paid little attention because Swami was enroute. But Swami said 56% Hunter which is what I really suspected.

It's interesting, we like titles don't we It's like at banks, everyone is a VP!

But the reality is, "it is what it is" regardless of a title. The diet, supplements, exercise, and lifestyle are what we really need to focus on.




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...

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Quoted from Golfzilla
Morning everyone!

I answered yes because the GTD book confirmed Teached


Teacher? That can't be right. No way you could ever be a Teacher as an O    

Glad I look the part Paul   There was never any doubt in my mind.




Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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Quoted from Heidi


Teacher? That can't be right. No way you could ever be a Teacher as an O    

Glad I look the part Paul   There was never any doubt in my mind.



My book is at home, I'll have to look tonight. Regardless, strength testing did not show me to be a Hunter in the book by a lot... But as I mentioned Swami said Hunter by 56%




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...
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Ahh, I see. Going by strenght testing alone could get people in all kinds of trouble  

I kind of skipped right over that part of the book when I was determining GT and went right to the measuring and tables in the back. Going back, just for fun, I test strongest for Explorer and Hunter comes in second.

I didn't know my secretor status when I first read the book so for a brief (10 minutes or less) time I though there was a chance I could be a Teacher. We had done my fingers incorrectly. Had I know my secretor status there would have been no doubt even with the incorrect measurment. (Secretor = Teacher, Non-secretor = Explorer with that set of measurments)



Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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Quoted from Heidi
Ahh, I see. Going by strenght testing alone could get people in all kinds of trouble  

I kind of skipped right over that part of the book when I was determining GT and went right to the measuring and tables in the back. Going back, just for fun, I test strongest for Explorer and Hunter comes in second.

I didn't know my secretor status when I first read the book so for a brief (10 minutes or less) time I though there was a chance I could be a Teacher. We had done my fingers incorrectly. Had I know my secretor status there would have been no doubt even with the incorrect measurment. (Secretor = Teacher, Non-secretor = Explorer with that set of measurments)


I went completely through the GTD book step by step and had an ND measure me. I recorded everything in the book, answered all the questions, etc. And still Hunter was second to lowest score...




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...
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At first I thought I was a hunter, then the measurements had me gatherer by a hair. The SWAMI has me as explorer, altho the diet seems more a blend of hunter & gatherer.  I read the 'tips of the day' & the descriptions have me a mix of hunter & gatherer more than explorer. Yeah, I am left-handed & can't tolerate caffeine, but I am amazingly hunter-gatherer in my needs & behavior.
The test you take to see if you should do BTD or GTD had me as GTD, but SWAMI has me as a blend, which is easier to eat. The few things I had to give up(or relegate to dot status)when doing the gatherer diet made it extremely difficult. It's amazing how these few foods-broccoli, beets, sweet potatoes, avocados, & maybe a few others-make my life so much easier!  I'm not compltely convinced that I'm a nonnie, but all points to it. I know there are demarcations in each GT & you must be only one of them, but I'm sure I am so close to all 3 O GTs. It would be nice to have SWAMI in person & get a Lewis blood test, but this is it for now.


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I am a secretor who wants to participate in this poll anyways ..

Nobody makes polls for secretors
well I did
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1265902459/


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0 rh- secr ( Hunter or explorer )
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