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Henriette Bsec
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one month ago I took swami express
let computer decide since it felt most natural and came out as a weird Gatherer/b type with quite a lots of dairy.
I was somewhat confused and surprised - since I according to book was nomad
food list was good - got chocolate back and whole fat dairy  
Some stuff matched some didnīt-

Today I decided i wanted to change serving sizes to "compute best "

- and I came out as Explorer  

Then I checked my data and started to play around a bit
decided to look at my jaw size and put as narrow ( as I should have the fist time)

and I still became explorer with quite a lot dairy  

I donīt really fit explorer-
or for that matter gatherer
so I am really surprised and confused

when I look at the food list it is ok... but...

It leaves me confused what happend between August 13 and now ?



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Quoted from Henriette Bsec

I donīt really fit explorer-
or for that matter gatherer
so I am really surprised and confused




Fit?

I  look at it this way. We have to be able to define our genotype some what so labels are necessary, if SWAMI could just label it "HB at this moment" SWAMI would, but it can't it needs to " fit" you into some category/label/groove, so it does. ( The percentage thread would be good to reread)

You admitted that you did not put in the right data regarding your jaw angle so now your genetic profile (head shape is linked to disease and hereditary) essentially changed so indeed I would go with the Explorer and let the diet speak for itself over the next three months.

Gotta love the dairy!



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The 6 GT labels are just a convenience when SWAMI is used since the diet is a blend made for you. I would suppose that you are close enough to the various GT's that minor changes are enough for SWAMI to 'change' your label, such as the jaw angle. You remain Henriette no matter what and that is what is important.  
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Changing serving size will not alter GenoType calculations. Jaw shape will. The difference(s) between blood group possible GenoTypes is much less significant in SWAMI than in the GTD book because the book labored under the limitations of being a static media, in which case you may well be a Nomad as per GTD, but another GT in SWAMI. By the time the software calculates its further customization as per your situational specific (health history, family history, etc) and hybridizes how much of each system (BTD versus GTD) works best for you, the world of 'Gatherer' or 'Nomad' becomes somewhat arcane.

Basically you are working on the further evolution of the 'Henriette Diet.'


A whole system is a living system is a learning system.’ -Stewart Brand
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Henriette Bsec
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well first I only changed sizes of food - that is why I am surprised.
then I played around and noticed that I had put my jaw as wide it is really narrow or neutral.

I am just somewhat   now I have to change my food list again !  

I just put my data here

B
rh-
secretor


Northern European
slight taster

not caffeine sensitive
not lactose sensitive

Cranial width 27 cm
cranial lengt  31
no carabelli cusp
yes to incisor
narrow jaw or neutral  

gynic space
meso -endo
legs longer
upper leg longer
visible tendon
my fingers just touch

got white lines on left hand

left hand:
index 68 mm
ring 65
1 finger thumb whorl
2 whorl
3 whorl
4 whorl
5  ulnar loop

right hand
index 67 mm
ring 66 cm
1 whorl
2 whorl
3 ulnar loop
4 whorl
5 ulnar loop




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Quoted from Dr. D
Changing serving size will not alter GenoType calculations. Jaw shape will. The difference(s) between blood group possible GenoTypes is much less significant in SWAMI than in the GTD book because the book labored under the limitations of being a static media, in which case you may well be a Nomad as per GTD, but another GT in SWAMI. By the time the software calculates its further customization as per your situational specific (health history, family history, etc) and hybridizes how much of each system (BTD versus GTD) works best for you, the world of 'Gatherer' or 'Nomad' becomes somewhat arcane.

Basically you are working on the further evolution of the 'Henriette Diet.'


Thanks   I posted while you wrote.


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well I got red wine back   so I survive that I lost tomates again  
- just a bit confusing that such a small thing change everything

Well I guess I going to spend the evening putting my new foods into a new list ( in danish


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Henriette Bsec,

Welcome to Explorers!  

Tea Rose



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Henriette Bsec
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Quoted from Tea Rose
Henriette Bsec,

Welcome to Explorers!  

Tea Rose


thanks  


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more power to you!


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Dear Henriette,

Somehow I think being an explorer fits you.. Remember the explorer motto "I did it my way"..

I think you have your own (and wonderful) way

By the way, I think Peter's input here in this thread IS a must read. Yes, that is what SWAMI does, truly personalised diet.

We are persons, individuals, we are not labels .. In a 'static' world/media, we may need labels to differentiate. But in the real world we are what we are, and we are constantly changing (responding to environment, i.e. to what we eat, breathe, interact etc..)..

So, keep being your unique self and keep enjoying it, however it changes it's still you

Cheers,
Yaman


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This is a good example of what I see Peter really trying to do in his life:  Continuing to further refine and individualize health plans so that each person has the best possible tools on the planet for attaining and maintaining the best health possible. . along with long life and happiness!  

I wouldn't worry at all about the labels, because it's only language.  Let's go with this magnificent flow!  



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I can see that SWAMI factored in some Explorer foods for me even though my diet is
Teacher combined type A diet..I tend to do a lot of things "my own way" too but
I feel like a Teacher and know my diet is unlike other Teachers.

Good luck Henriette!  

Enjoy getting back your red wine and having one more new adventure on the
Henriette Diet  


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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For the record I have never seen a narrow jawed Nomad. At least not a very narrow jawed one. Although I do not know peoples blood types and faces as much as other people, just saying... Explorer might fit better than you think!

What is your world view? Is it receptive? I sort of wonder because that might make more sense for someone that is not caffeine sensitive. I got a B- friend typed out as Explorer and he is sensitive to caffeine but seems tolerant in world view and food. Nothing bothers him other than caffeine, but he is not eating things that could benefit him. He becomes sort of boring and does little to nothing and develops poor short term memory sometimes... He remembers wild weird details of other things though, like my grandpa Explorer.
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you guys make me blush thanks

Yep I am 37 % explore
- and yes DOS I do have a receptive world view...
Iīll just enjoy that with my swami iīve got chocolate as diamond and whole fat milk as superfood -pretty good compared to normal explorer diet.

and be exploring my new "Henriette diet"  
yep I do it my way....Yaman  

The psychologically stuf about gatherers never fitted me
I am not sweet natured with highs and downs
or an early adopterof new ideas( I make my own ideas;)
or for that matter able to concentrate long on brainwork
I change direction a lot  


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A fluke happened with my SWAMI today ... you might want to check yours again Henriette.

I decided to see what it would say for me if I chose "Narrow" jaw, and it changed my genotype to Teacher!

I was reading the paragraph about Teacher percentage, and noticed that it said I had "chosen" the Teacher genotype rather than allowing SWAMI to calculate for me.

I definitely didn't choose Teacher -- I didn't change that field at all -- so I don't know how it got reset to Teacher. All I did was open SWAMI, switch my jaw measurement, then clicked the button to print out the report.

I redid my report several times after that using every possible jaw angle while making sure it said "calculate my genotype for me". It switched me back to Warrior no matter what jaw angle I submitted.




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I think that after changing a field it's important to click on some neutral area outside the drop down menu--before selecting something else. I think that was mentioned somewhere on the forum. I have seen websites where if you don't do that a dropdown entry can change without your knowing it.
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Chandon  and Dgale-
No change for me
unless I change my jaws to wide
and I have asked several people yesterdaty and all say I am neutral or maybe narrow.
NOT wide as I by mistake put...

Well food looks ok...
Lots of B food   and even beef and veal superfoods
- but Iīll miss some of the nice fruits and nuts  from my Gatherer swami.


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Can someone tell me what a "Neutral" jaw looks like?  

I got a plastic protractor, but I think there's a better type I can use.

If an Almond jaw is 125 degrees or more, that's going to be quite the angle!  I thought I was Almond for certain because nobody I know has a jaw as wide, but with this protractor I'm wavering from 122 to 130.




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I believe there s a picture of the different jaws in the gt kit, no?


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Do not feel bad. I have been back and forth between Teacher, Explorer, and Warrior, way too much. Right now it is for sure between Teacher and Warrior. I am getting sodium benzoate strips to try. I can not taste the PTC ones. SWAMI swears that I am a warrior but... I am having such a hard time believing it. According to the book well I am a Teacher. The Teacher cheeses work for me, the warrior ones make me feel terrible in comparison because they cause horrible calcium issues with my kidneys. However does SWAMI know better? Yeah this can get a bit old, mean while nothing is ever normal or good with candida. Too much brain hurt for unpredictable reasons, along with other problems.
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If you tell SWAMI you are a teacher, how much does your diet change?


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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The Teacher cheeses work for me, the warrior ones make me feel terrible in comparison because they cause horrible calcium issues with my kidneys. However does SWAMI know better?  


What Warrior cheeses?  I get paneer and cottage..that's it.
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Well I have come to the conclusion that it is
REALLY important to let the database decide[color=blue][/color] your Swami Genotype !!!

I actually think it is a bit confusing that you can choose to overrule the database- just because you "feel " that you belong to another genotype.

Since I only have 37 % Explorer in me
- I guess that is why I changed from Nomad ( based on book) to gatherer( put wrong jaw facts) and now explorer.

I have tried the regular explorer diet in 2 months
and felt absolutely lousy ...
now when I compare my new swami version it is VERY different- it is truly a Henriette version  

I used to say I was a "chocolate, dairy, egg eating" explorer - well I am now - since milk and eggyolks are superfoods and chocolate is diamond

It will be interesting making a new shopping list  


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MIFHI

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