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The thread:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1250265646/

Contains a list of food items that people would like included in SWAMI.

This thread is for discussion of the items in the list.


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What are elephant ear stems?

These are the stalks of: Colocasia esculenta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colocasia_esculenta


The stems are very spongy and I understand you are supposed to peel them before using. I sometimes wonder if this step is necessary. I use the stems in soups and stir fries.

The leaves (I occasionally have these curried.) and tubers are also edible. Tubers are listed in SWAMI under "Taro, Tahitian, Poi, Dansheen"

Note: My species identification was called into question in posts below.  
This is what I eat looks like this: http://vietherbs.com/herb-directory/elephant-ear/
This Web page claims it is  Alocasia  Odora


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In case you guys wonder about the parsley root
http://www.recipetips.com/glossary-term/t--35051/parsley-root.asp
- then it is quite common in Europe
We use it like parsnips- and in soups
- flavour I think is better than parsnips


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looks like salsify


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well it is bigger   and taste different a bit nutty and mild slightly parsley like


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let s call them albino carrots!!


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Quoted from Lola
let s call them albino carrots!!


My understanding is that in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran have a variety of carrots that lack pigments. I presume these would rate the same as regular carrots, but maybe not.

For those that want to grow white carrots, I did find seeds online:

http://www.reimerseeds.com/white-satin-carrots.aspx

Turkey I understand has black carrots, which I find not very appealing. But they also have some pretty purple ones.  


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My understanding is that in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran have a variety of carrots that lack pigments. I presume these would rate the same as regular carrots, but maybe not.

For those that want to grow white carrots, I did find seeds online:

http://www.reimerseeds.com/white-satin-carrots.aspx

Turkey I understand has black carrots, which I find not very appealing. But they also have some pretty purple ones.  



Last year I had yellow, orange and white carrots

Funny

This year I grow regular and some pink ones.
The pink ones are rather strong in flavour - works better roasted than raw.


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I couldn t find balsam apple or bitter gourd listed in my swami among all those gourds appearing in your link C!

there s a whole universe of gourds out there it seems!

Kanpyo, Dried Gourd Strips, has anyone tried those?
or the Sea Cucumber......don t think I ll be tasting that one in a while, let alone find it!!


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I couldn t find balsam apple or bitter gourd listed in my swami among all those gourds appearing in your link C!


In my SWAMI bitter gourd is listed in live foods listed as "Balsam Pear, Bitter Gourd"



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Xanthosoma
has already been added C.....check the swami update thread
Quoted Text
UPDATE

New food addition:

Malanga, Tannier, Xanthosoma



wrote balsam apple before....it s 'pear', thanks...
still can t find it in the gourd link you posted.


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It can be called balsam apple or pear. SWAMI uses pear.  Actually, Now I cannot find where I posted a gourd link.


Since "Malanga, Tannier, Xanthosoma" was added under "carbohydrates", I presume it refers to the starchy tubor and not the stems or leaves.

There appears to be three genra of elephant ears: Alocasia, Colocasia and Xanthosoma
I did not think I was dealing with Xanthosoma, but I may be wrong.

I had thought Xanthosoma had redish or purple stems. But that appears just be the variety people grow here.  I see green stems in some online pictures.  The plants look right.  

What I eat is green on the outside, but a white spongy on the inside.

Picture: http://vietherbs.com/herb-directory/elephant-ear/


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the carrot link you posted, took me to the gourds.....sorry
wrote that in the search field......lots of gourds appeared...


I should go harvest away my mom s garden soon!!

who knew!!!


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Now that we talked so much about Balsam Pear, Balsam apple, Bitter Gourd, Bitter melon, it has got me thinking about the vines of bitter melons.

At the flea market near me, there is a vendor that sells the vines for eating. I got some once and read that you could use the leaves just like spinach.

So I made a smoothie with it.  This was a mistake! I used up the rest of what I bought in stir fries--but I did not care for the taste of it.  

Maybe I could learn to like the leaves, if I knew they were a diamond.  But the fruit is only neutral for me, so I have not bought any more of the vines.


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maybe dried and ground into a powder might work as a spice, if compliant.....


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Xylitol


It's my understanding it can be derived from corn.  


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It's my understanding it can be derived from corn.  



Yes, it can be. The seller usually provides that information.

I use only Birch bark derived Xylitol from globalsweet.com





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I am not sure that Tom ported the list of foods when he migrated the er4yt-UK group to multiply.  If he did, I do not see it.

"To find out what listed American foods are in English, select the relevant category from the menu on the left."

I do not see any menu to use on the left.


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exotic fruits:
1. mangosteens
2. rambutans
3.chickus
4.Water apples (Jambu)



Mangosteens already included

If chickus is Sapote it is alrady listed.
If chickus is Sapodilla it is listed in vegetable protein
If chickus is something else we may need a scientific name or more description to identify what it is.

Jambu -- Until it listed I would assume its rating is similar to a Jambolan


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http://www.foodlexicon.net/
this might be a helpful tool for some......

also the search button using the word one needs to translate might have a few old posts discussing the matter
like the fish names etc.....

like John Dory
http://www.google.com/custom?q.....itesearch=dadamo.com

lambs quarters
I believe might just have the same rating as lamb in general


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Asian food/drinks such as Chrysanthemum tea, wheatgrass, winter tea, grass jelly, herbal jelly, rose syrup, almond drink, Chinese herbs ( ie cooling tea/ liang cha). condiments such as Rice vinegar, rice wine. Fish such as Toman (Snakehead) Vegetables such as Bamboo shoots, Lotus root, lotus paste (commonly used in mooncakes). Also, Vegetable Oil, Palm oil, coconut milk, chinese five-spice powder, dried shrimp, shrimp paste, fish sauce, Pandan Leaves, century egg, quail eggs.


You may want to look at the existing list before saying that foods need to be added.

almond drink - almond milk is alread listed. Almond drink can mean a variety of things. The rating system needs something with a fixed composition. You will probably need to go by the individual ingredients in your beverage product.

Rice vinegar presumably covered by "Vinegar, all types"

Bamboo shoots currently listed

Lotus root currently listed

Vegetable Oil for foods to be listed they need to have a fixed composition. Do you mean Soy, corn, cottonsed, something else?

dried shrimp, shrimp paste   Shrimp is currently listed You may have to rely on that listing for the time being

quail eggs-already listed


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bel doesn t have a swami list yet....

check out this swami example when wanting to know
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf


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Yard Long Beans
Natto [All Soy, & Mixed with Barley]


Yard Long Beans already included under vegetable protein
Natto is included but type is not identified


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...
Durian [Durio sp.]
Samphire, Norfolk Asparagus [Crithmum maritimum]
Strawberry Tree [Arbutus unedo]
Green Mango
Ayu, Sweetfish [Plecoglossus altivelis]
Udo [Aralia cordata]
Asian Pear, Nashi [Pyrus pyrifolia]
Sea Urchin, Erizo, Uni [not picky - ANY]
Szechuan Pepper, Sansho [Zanthoxylum simulans, Z. ailanthoides]
Organ meats of the various common & Horse
Muntjac
Fugu, Pufferfish [typ. Takifugo rubripes]
Daylily, any
Tulip
Magnolia blossoms
Chrysanthemum, any
Yew berry {seedless of course}
Teff [Eragrostis tef]
Wasabi [Eutrema japonica]
Salsify [mainly Scorzonera hispanica, but any Trogopogon sp. as well]
Sea Pineapple, Hoya [Halocynthia roretzi]
Syrian Rue [peganum harmala]
Raw Cocoa Pods
Arum campanulatum (Rox & San)
Eel, Unagi
Conger Eel {and Anago which is not Conger but I digress}
...


In addition to the foods already listed by Lola (and me above):
I recognize these foods in SWAMI:
Durian
Asian Pear
Teff
Eel (Type not identified)

Organ meats-These are listed:

Beef, Heart
Beef, Liver
Beef, Tongue  
Calf, Liver
Sweetbreads


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Goji, Wolfberry, Matrimony Vine [Lycium chinense or L. barbarum]
Salsify [mainly Scorzonera hispanica, but any Trogopogon sp. as well]
Yardlong Beans [Vigna unquiculata subsp. sesquipedalis]
Natto [All Soy, & Mixed with Barley]

to name a few.....are all up in swami

get an update Schluggell!!


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