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Calling all cars!  Calling all cars!!!  All BTD and GTD cars report in for a BULLETIN!

I wasn't sure if I should place this in the GTD forum or ER4YT forum because really it applies to all of us, as all D'Adamo diet followers of all types with a brain in their fuzzy little heads avoid CORN SYRUP like the plague it truly is!

And let this serve as a lesson, too, re the importance of READING INGREDIENTS LABELS, even on those products that you buy frequently.  If you are very familiar with a product, of course you wouldn't read the label each and every time you purchase it, but just every so often GIVE A GLANCE, because this world seems h*ll bent on inserting corn syrup into things, just when you least expect it!

So, there I am in the HFS on Friday, and I decided to make the purchase of a loaf of Sami's Bakery Millet & Flax bread.  A bread I have recommended on this board many times.  A line of products I have enthusiastically endorsed.  Are youzz with me so far?

Something--and I don't know what, maybe the front label looked a little different or something, or maybe the stars were just aligned to protect me from the dreaded corn syrup--told me to read the ingredients label and, there it was, plain as day:  "cultured corn syrup".



I had to do a double take!  Cultured corn syrup?  As my twinnie Brig would say, "What the bloody BLEEP?!"

Mind you, it never had corn syrup, cultured or totally without any manners, before!  And what the bloody BLEEP is "cultured" corn syrup, anyway?  A GMO junky, addictive, cravings-inducing rose by any other name still is as SICKLY sweet!  It is CORN SYRUP!  Who cares if it is "cultured", is that supposed to somehow make it "health food"?  I think not!!!

So, twist here had to have a BIG COW in the HFS, I mean a COW.

"WHAT?!  SINCE WHEN IS THERE CORN SYRUP IN THE SAMI'S BREAD?  WHAT THE BLOODY BLEEP IS GOING ON HERE?"  At that point, another patron came barrelling over and said "Oh, I know what you are talking about, Sami's bread, right?  WHY did they put corn syrup in it?!"  Well, we proceeded to carry on and spaz out so much that one of the store owners came over and next thing you know, he was promising to call Sami's Bakery (which is just the next city over from where the HFS is located, yet they sell their products nationwide) and get to the bottom of this, and the other patron and I were "h*ll bent for election", as my co-worker would say, determined to write to Sami's and express our righteous wrath over the situation, which I just did this morning, as follows:

"Just writing to give you the feedback that I am VERY upset over your recent addition of "cultured corn syrup" to your millet & flax (and plain millet) bread.  The typical buyer of a wheat-free bread will read the ingredients list, and thank goodness I did for some reason even though I buy the millet & flax bread all the time and was very familiar with the ingredients.  But something told me to read the label last Friday and thank goodness I did, as I will not buy the bread again.  There are two things I scrupulously avoid:  wheat and corn syrup.  I'm sure many of your loyal customers, like I was, are the same way about avoiding junk ingredients like corn syrup.  Therefore, I think you will lose quite a few regular customers by the addition of this harmful-to-health ingredient.  I hope you will consider removing the corn syrup and returning your bread to the wholesome, healthful product it was.  Those of us on a wheat-free diet have very few choices in breads as it is.  I'm sorry to say that, by your addition of corn syrup to your previously awesome breads, you have just removed one more choice for us.  Again, please consider removing the corn syrup from your line of breads.  Thanks."

I mean!  First thing I did when I got home was to check my previous loaf of Sami's Millet & Flax Bread, which had one slice left in it.  I was like, okay, Edna, brace yourself, girl, because it may be that you have eaten an entire loaf (or God knows how many entire loaves!!!) of CORN SYRUP-laden bread!  But, thank goodness, my existing loaf had the old, corn-syrup-free label.

WHY?

WHY do they feel compelled to add corn syrup to EVERYTHING?  The other patron theorized that maybe it was because the bread was kinda crumbly, but really it was no more crumbly than any other bread.  Frankly, there are better breads in the HFS freezer, but what I LOVED about the Sami's was that it was SHELF STABLE (though I always kept mind in the fridge) and you could just use it for SANDWICHES without toasting it or anything.  But, those days are gone.  Back to salad days, which is better for me anyway.  I guess O nonnie G2's were just not destined for convenience in their diets.  But with a little bit of planning, we can make up for that, AND eat way better in the process.

So, bottom line:  I hereby withdraw my previous ringing endorsement of the Sami's Bakery line of products.  Even though some of their stuff is still corn-syrup-free, I am BOYCOTTING the entire line, pffffffffffft!

DONE.  Don't be adding corn syrup to things!  And what the bloody bleep IS "cultured" corn syrup, anyway?  Oh, Auntie Em, I'm frightened.



edited to add:  After checking my existing loaf, the next thing I did upon arrival home was to call up harmonykitty and ALERT her, via the BTD/GTD Rapid Reponse Phone Network.  She was equally horrified, especially since she DID have a loaf that had the corn syrup in it, she discovered!

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Don't worry the word is spreading. I'm seeing bread here at work that says "No Added HFC" so pretty soon everyone will jump on the bandwagon.
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Sami's has always had "baking powder" which includes corn starch.

The bag says no preservatives, but Earth Fare tested the bread and found it had preservatives.  Earth Fare no longer sells Sami's Bakery bread because of this.

I'm sure the next bags I see at the store will have curltured corn syrup!  Thank you for the head's up!  I just checked the ingredients for a loaf of Sami's Bakery Millet & Flax bread we have here and there is no cultured corn syrup in this one.
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That's so disappointing. I have been eating this bread for sometime now. It taste great without corn syrup so why now. Maybe we could all call or email Sami's and ask why and complain stating we like the bread just the way is was. Why change a good thing?
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Wow!  I am grateful for the heads-up.  I also have spoken highly of this bread in the past, but not with this new development!

I checked my last batch of loaves in the freezer right after I read this thread and they don't have it on the label.

I will also stop purchasing it from them, but I also don't know what I will do for bread now.  

I have always wondered how they get the bread so palatable with just the ingredients listed.  I have always wondered if maybe they didn't list ALL ingredients.  It is hard to believe that it has the texture it does without yeast.  

Sad in Western New York!
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Quoted from Vicki
The bag says no preservatives, but Earth Fare tested the bread and found it had preservatives.  Earth Fare no longer sells Sami's Bakery bread because of this.

You're kidding!  So, that just tears it:  to me, they are not an ethical company, should go without saying, if they were putting preservatives into their products yet not listing them.  BAD.     All the more reason to boycott the entire line, even the items like their "lavash" breads and millet & flax "chips"--which are sort of a cross between a bagel chip and a pita chip--which still don't have the corn syrup.
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That's so disappointing. I have been eating this bread for sometime now. It taste great without corn syrup so why now. Maybe we could all call or email Sami's and ask why and complain stating we like the bread just the way is was. Why change a good thing?

Here is how to contact them and tell them you want the bread SANS corn syrup:

http://www.samisbakery.com/contact.asp
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Wow!  I am grateful for the heads-up.  I also have spoken highly of this bread in the past, but not with this new development!

I checked my last batch of loaves in the freezer right after I read this thread and they don't have it on the label.

I will also stop purchasing it from them, but I also don't know what I will do for bread now.  

I have always wondered how they get the bread so palatable with just the ingredients listed.  I have always wondered if maybe they didn't list ALL ingredients.  It is hard to believe that it has the texture it does without yeast.  

Sad in Western New York!
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As for what to do for bread now, I'm giving up on the whole bread thing.  It was so convenient and helpful to be able to make a good old sandwich again, for the short time I thought Sami's was okay.  Other wheat-free breads are in the freezer and you have to defrost and toast them before using.  With the Sami's, I could just literally slap together, for example, a turkey sandwich for an ultra-quick and easy breakfast.

But anything you can make into a sandwich, you can mix in with quinoa, plain rice (basmati for us G2's), rice pasta, salad, or with a superfood/beneficial veggie for your type (such as, for example, green string beans for my G2 type, or a root veggie such as sweet potato, and it is just as good and WAY healthier (if you go the veggie route, that is).  The thing is that those things take a modicum of planning in advance, whereas with the Sami's, even on days when you are caught in a huge rush and without having done any planning, you are good to go.  A bagged salad doesn't take much planning but it takes longer to eat, if you are rushed.  Face it:  it is just nice to be able to make and eat a sandwich on occasion!  But, that said, I'm pretty much giving up on it at this point, and I think I'll be the healthier for it.  If I will simply boil up some basmati rice once per week and store it in Gladware, I'll be good to go and who needs a stinkin' sandwich?  Not I!  Have basmati and Gladware, will travel!  Veggies instead of bread is even better.  So, the heck with it, that's what I say.  This whole thing really took it outta me *lol*.

I mean, maybe I'll check out the freezer section and see if they have anything G2-friendly.  Back on the O diet, I could have rye and rice breads.  But on the G2 GTD, rice is a black dot for me now and rye is, too.  Black dots, EVERYWHERE!  Nothing but black dots dancing before my eyes, taunting me...   I might actually have to try some whole millet.  As I recall, someone made me some in college and I thought it was the foulest thing EVER.  But maybe it was the way it was prepared or something.  I should give it another shot, as it is a diamond superfood for moi.  And there is always basmati rice, thank GOD.  Because quinoa, great as it is, tends to go kinda watery when stored sometimes.  Rice doesn't do that.  *sigh*

Sometimes (rarely, but sometimes), I just want to be an A secretor...or a B, I'm not picky!  Just a secretor and not an O.  I just want to go out and have a big ole sub or something.  Granted, it is only about once a decade that I get this way, but this Sami's thing has rendered me very whiney for the time being...sorry all.

Well, but let's review the positive for my own type, G2:  we have basmati rice.  You simply boil up a passle (passel?) and thar ya go:  anything you could put on a sandwich, you can mix with that throughout the week, so quit yer b*tchin', twisty.  Then we also have quinoa, which truly is a wonderful superfood and is great, especially the "red" quinoa--mmmmm.  Moving to the veg kingdom, we have mushrooms.  I finally figured out that the kind I love are called shitake and...hello--TOXIN TO AVOID.  Daaay-uuum, I just noticed that!  I have the book in front of me and I just noticed it.  MAN!  All other mushrooms are diamond superfoods but shitakes are Toxins to Avoid?  Dr. D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You are trying to torture me, aren't you?  Just admit it!  ADMIT IT!

Oh, I'm twisting out now.  I mean, I was tryin' to find the positive but now this shitake thing has REALLY thrown me for a loop.  Okay, moving along:  we still have basmati rice (yay!) and millet (*involuntary cringe*).  We have TOMATOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     Throw some grape tomatoes in with your sandwich fixin's and WOWIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  So much better than bread!  I feel myself bucking up already!  Lycopene RULES!  Even without a prostate to benefit from it, I have eyes, and it helps them!  What did Sami's bread ever do for my eyes, I ask you?!  This isn't so bad!  Who needs ya, Sami's?!  Take your cultured corn syrup and put it where the sun don't shine--wuu HUUUUUUUUUUU!  Aaaand:  yams...although sweet potatoes are an avoid...so best avoid the lot because who knows which is which when shopping in the US of A?  Not I, said the little red hen.  So, okay, let's bottom line this thing:  Basmati (yay!), grape tomatoes (YUM!  Delish, nutrish AND low in calories, fat and bad carbs--WU!), quinoa (all right, sir!) and millet (reserving comment at this time)...could be worse!  But wait, we also have green string beans and great northern beans.  Yeah!

Okay, I'm back with youzzz now, I can do this thing!  I need to stock up on basmati rice and grape tomatoes (which weren't any good the last two times I bought them--must be the season ended or something because they were GREAT for the few weeks before that).

It's all gonna be okay.  We have tons of choices, we just need to keep our minds and eyes open and reading our superfoods list.  If I could give up chips and then give up all items from my HFS' cafe, anything is possible.  I didn't really use that much Sami's anyway.  The heck with 'em.

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They probably had been using corn syrup the whole time and some employee was going to expose them, or they weren't putting enough in it to mention it.  The lying or printing false statements like "no preservatives" makes me think they probably are lying about other things too.  So, twist, I would boycott the whole line too!


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pssst...remember Edna...we can have Portabello mushrooms slightly grilled or not, to make a wonderful sandwich.  Fried egg(2), lettuce, tomato and onion are one of my favorites.  Yummilicious.

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A friend who has an Earth Fare near her told me they no longer carry Sami's bread, but couldn't remember what it was that bothered them about it.  This is terrible!  Not only is it unethical, it's illegal to not label it!  Terrible.  Just terrible.


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If you don't mind ordering bread online, this company's bread is absolutely pure and
wonderful.  They have a line of gluten free breads as well. I've been ordering
from them for a long time.

http://grindstonebakery.com/index.html


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You know, the no bread idea is a good one.  I do the occasional rice cracker with almond butter, and the occasional plain ezekiel bread.  I have made the flax "focaccia" recipe that is floating around on these boards.  It actually has a good consistency for sandwiches.  But I am a bit lazy about baking lately.  Glad I don't know what I am missing with the Sami's bread.  Maybe they will change their recipe if enough of you holler out!
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awwwwe twist thanks, that is sweet of you to say.

About the flax focaccia, my husband made a batch and I thought it was ok, but he "doctored" (pardon the pun) it a little BTD compliant of course and it was much better the second go around.
I will ask him what he did to it and post it.

I do enjoy an occasional piece of bread now and then, but since I have been on this plan I can count how many times I have a slice.  My DH eats it, or it molds.


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While I was out in the field last week I turned on the tv at the hotel (I never watch at home). There was an advertisement in FAVOR of HFC. A guy and a girl(attractive and thin of course) are in the park, on a blanket and she hands him a half of a popsicle and he says "no, it has HFC in it" she says "so? it has the same calories as sugar" so he takes it with a smile on his face and eats it. I wanted to gag.

When I'm staying at hotels with breakfast bars it is almost impossible to find something to eat without HFC in it, AND it has now been approved as "natural" so things with "all natural ingredients" can hide it.


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http://www.cheekymaidensoap.com/tipoftheweek/?p=104

Scroll down a little and you'll get two different stories on corn syrup.


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AND it has now been approved as "natural" so things with "all natural ingredients" can hide it.

Hmmmmm.  Yes, and what about the ever-evasive "natural flavorings"?


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Thanks for the link Ribbit! I LOVE the second video! It is a direct spoof on the commercial I saw.


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I really hate those corn syrup commercials, I guess they think the public is really stupid to fall for the all nautural and healthy in moderation s**t. The food industry is worried that they will have to spend extra money on  healthy sweeteners, since the public is on to the unhealthyness ( is this a word, if not it should be?) of corn syrup. I spend a lot of time reading labels in the grocery store reading labels to make sure this junk isn't in the food I buy. Not many products out there that fall in the acceptable list as it is.


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I was talking to John the other day and said, "Ya know I don't ever remember kids having nut allergies when I was a kid, what is the cause?  We see so many allergies today that we didn't see back we were young".  He guessed, "Probably all the processed food is the culprit.  People eat junk today and something has got to give."

And now they are going to try and pass HFC off as some natural food?  PULEEEEASE! Give me a break.

All the process junk is bad for you, when are people going to wake up?  We have so many illnesses today that are a result of eating c**p.  It is a constant struggle with John and his patients, with him trying to get them to eat better.  Oh and they better not come waltzing into the office asking for a weight loss pill, it ain't gonna happen.


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A month or so ago, there was a recipe on a thread here for quinoa flatbread.  This would IMHO make a pretty good sandwich.  I've been making some every week to eat with Indian food and it's really good, and quick to make.  Sometimes I mix quinoa with buckwheat flour, a Hunter superfood.
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Quoted from Chloe
If you don't mind ordering bread online, this company's bread is absolutely pure and
wonderful.  They have a line of gluten free breads as well. I've been ordering
from them for a long time.

http://grindstonebakery.com/index.html

Wow, what a pure, high-quality line of breads that seems to be!  Unfortunately, all the ones in the wheat-free line seem to be spelt (don't get me started, as to me, spelt is wheat, but I know I'm in a minority of one in saying that...but any way you slice it--no pun intended--spelt is an avoid for my non-secreting, Gatherer self) or rye (LOVE it, but also a Gatherer avoid, tragically).  That said, thank you so much for posting that link, because certainly many of the genotypes CAN enjoy those wholesome, high-quality, nutrient-dense breads.  So that is a great contribution to the thread!




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Wow, what a pure, high-quality line of breads that seems to be!  Unfortunately, all the ones in the wheat-free line seem to be spelt (don't get me started, as to me, spelt is wheat, but I know I'm in a minority of one in saying that...but any way you slice it--no pun intended--spelt is an avoid for my non-secreting, Gatherer self) or rye (LOVE it, but also a Gatherer avoid, tragically).  That said, thank you so much for posting that link, because certainly many of the genotypes CAN enjoy those wholesome, high-quality, nutrient-dense breads.  So that is a great contribution to the thread!




You might have missed the gluten-free breads from Grindstone...no spelt.
These are the breads I've been ordering....Usually made from quinoa and millet.
https://bear.he.net/~grindst/e.....1237819466/s-/s-new/



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I gave up these type of breads about 6 months ago and have only felt better for it and lost weight/less carb cravings...it is a processed food after all
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You might have missed the gluten-free breads from Grindstone...no spelt.
These are the breads I've been ordering....Usually made from quinoa and millet.
https://bear.he.net/~grindst/e.....1237819466/s-/s-new/

Oh, you are right, I did miss that:  I went right to wheat-free, like a moth to a flame!  Thanks, some of those in the gluten-free list are AWESOME (although I wish they didn't have xanthum gum, but they have to have something to bind the loaf, and with all those Gatherer superfoods in there like quinoa, millet and cinnamon, how can you go wrong?  You can't!  Weeeeeeeee!).





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I gave up these type of breads about 6 months ago and have only felt better for it and lost weight/less carb cravings...it is a processed food after all

Yeah, for myself, I think I am going to try just boiling up a big batch of basmati rice once per week and using that anytime I would otherwise wish to use bread.  Like I mentioned, you can mix anything you would normally put into a sandwich, into rice.  And with Gladware being so cheap and re-usable (and other brands, too--the supermarket chain I shop at has their own line), it is just as easy to brown bag a rice mixture to work as it is to brown bag a sandwich.

I'm also going to use grape tomatoes instead of bread for some things.  And mushrooms for others.

It'll all work out.  As Chris points out, it is good for weight loss and energy, etc, too.  Veggies and fruit, imho, are the best carb choices.  After that come the superfood grains for your type, and if they don't lend themselves easily to bread form, then they don't.

That said...there is something nice about a sandwich once in a while, so links to awesome bread sites are welcomed and appreciated in this thread!



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