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Marthea
Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 12:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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[face=Verdana][/face]OK....so I'm new here, so I'm sorry if this question has already been posted but.....

Have major systemic candida (probably since childhood, now 37) and recently discovered that actually my head fogginess/headaches isn't normal!!! Now trying to get rid of it....and done alot of research ref diets (i.e. no sugar...including fruit, vinegars, etc etc). However, I like the understanding behind the blood group and genodiets, especially the underlying personal makeup (I'm O group, my wife A, and our step-son B, and we see the blood group personalities very clearly).

So what's the take on blood group diet (especially O) and candida......do I still eat fruit according to the approximate percentages or should I cut out anything considered 'yeast feeding'.

I've been working through this quiet along time now, and starting to feel that fruit avoidance does nothing but hide the problem....the problem seems deeper than this to me.

Anyone have any thoughts....

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Hello and Welcome Marthea,

Please visit the member center by clicking the Members button above and select you shiny Type O avatar. You can also add a signature, and other info you deem reasonable.

As for the candida, you are at the right place. Us O's are particularly at risk of candida overgrowth.

I'd recommend you to stay away from all grains, and starchy veggies for a while. Type O diet is helping a lot to improve candida problems. The Genotype diet is even better if you do fail to improve totally.

Cheers,
Yaman


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http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/30.html
Candida is a very complex thing to get rid of but it is possible.
Dr. D'Adamo has these protocols you may want to take a look.  
The link for for the yeast and is BT specific.

Are you doing BTD or GTD?
The GTD might be a better fit then the BT diet .
I am sure someone will come along and add the link to see which is better for you. It is a little quiz and will point you in the right direction.
Happy New Year
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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo

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Marthea
Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 1:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thanks for the quick reply....

So you're saying the recommended fruit are good?.....In the genotyp I'm a gatherer.....and watermelon works wonders with me......but according to traditional candida diets is a definite no no.

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Type O tends to be more allergic to Candida rather than prone to overgrowth. That is why most Candida avoidance diets work only in extremis. Following the BTD or GTD is better since it  addresses the direct inflammatory reactions to Candida, which provides a more permanent cure.


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Quoted from Dr. D
Type O tends to be more allergic to Candida rather than prone to overgrowth


I stand corrected! Thank you Peter, always good to know

Marthea, we are all different. Some beneficial fruits don't work for me as far as fighting with candida is concerned. I'd recommend that you stick to what makes you feel better, or, what doesn't make you feel worse. A couple of weeks into the BTD, you start noticing yourself what's good for you and what's not. As your body gets rid of the "junk", it speaks to you more clearly.

Cheers,
Yaman


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Marthea
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Thanks for all the replies...and thank you Peter.

I've been using candida diets for a while but never really felt they were working...and i also felt I was missing something vital....i.e. fruit.

The 'o' diet and now gatherer diets both feel very comfortable to me....so thank you for all your hard work (and your fathers!!)...you've inspired me to become a naturopath!!

Thanks for the info

Martyn
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Martyn,
welcome!

are you now studying to become a naturopath?


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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Are you doing BTD or GTD?
The GTD might be a better fit then the GT diet .
I am sure someone will come along and add the link to see which is better for you. It is a little quiz and will point you in the right direction.


Online quiz:

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2008/01/25/?blog=24



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pao d'arco & caprylic acid works best for O's and candida & the BTD foods  


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OOps meant GTD might be a better fit then the BT diet..


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Type O tends to be more allergic to Candida rather than prone to overgrowth.
I don't get it... what's the dif??

I've got yeast infections in both ears currently, and while other areas *may* smell yeatsty (I'm currently somewhat paranoid and may be overinterpreting the scent, or it could be psychosomatic), the only place that ever itches is my ears.

Now, I've started swabbing with a tea-tree, lavender and evoo mix (heard both essential oils have anti-fungal properties) but if the problem is systemic, I don't see how this could help.

Would following the protocol without changing diet help at all? I admit to not being incredibly compliant as of late. Occasionally permit dextrose or xanthum gum, some avoid oils (soy, safflower) and too much dairy. But, there is no wheat or other corn derivatives.
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Marthea-

Do you know your secretor status?  Very good to know in regard to candida.

-Melissa


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Oh Mercedes,
I love your Expluntherer!  
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Yes, the GTD "experiment" did not go well... *may* be willing to try again in the future, but the O might make it a very gradual change.
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Dr. D did say at the conference that mushroom avoidance  is silly ( not his exact words) because the fungi and the candida are very different organisms.


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Glad to hear that about the mushrooms.  Since I switched over the GTD I've been going gung ho on the mushrooms.  But I'd been feeling so lousy & couldn't figure out why.  Then it hit me that I may have an over abundance of Candida, so I cut out mushrooms, plum vinegar for salad, and all my fruit.  I'm feeling alot better.  Taking some supplements to help with it too.  I'll have to go back to trying just the mushrooms & see how I do.  They are a diamond for me & I really like them.



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The pH of your stomach is about a 3.. very acidic.


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[face=Verdana][/face]OK....so I'm new here, so I'm sorry if this question has already been posted but.....

Have major systemic candida (probably since childhood, now 37) and recently discovered that actually my head fogginess/headaches isn't normal!!! Now trying to get rid of it....and done alot of research ref diets (i.e. no sugar...including fruit, vinegars, etc etc). However, I like the understanding behind the blood group and genodiets, especially the underlying personal makeup (I'm O group, my wife A, and our step-son B, and we see the blood group personalities very clearly).

So what's the take on blood group diet (especially O) and candida......do I still eat fruit according to the approximate percentages or should I cut out anything considered 'yeast feeding'.

I've been working through this quiet along time now, and starting to feel that fruit avoidance does nothing but hide the problem....the problem seems deeper than this to me.

Anyone have any thoughts....

Thank you   



Olive leaf has helped me along the path to better health and fighting candida..
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Quoted from Dr. D
Type O tends to be more allergic to Candida rather than prone to overgrowth. That is why most Candida avoidance diets work only in extremis. Following the BTD or GTD is better since it  addresses the direct inflammatory reactions to Candida, which provides a more permanent cure.


Thank you Dr. D!!!!!  I certainly DID NOT want to stop eating my wonderful Swami foods and start some strict restriction routine!  I'm doing the Stinging nettle and Astragalus and going to buy some Caprylic Acid today and going that route as my Candida is showing up as Thrush in my mouth.  The symptoms I have are horrid dry mouth and bad breath, plus fatigue and lately some mild headaches.  The doctor thinks it's systematic and wants to give me some medication to kill it off.  Not sure if I want to go that route.

Thoughts everyone?
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