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Rose3408
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For months (years) I have been trying (praying) in hopes of trying to find an answer for my hair loss.

In looking at all my blood work for the past 7 years I noticed my ferritin is low.  In mentioning my iron to my Doctor in June, I requested a ferritin test which resulted in a low count of 26.  In September I asked my gyno to test again and it was down to 12.  As a result she wrote a prescription for iron called "Repliva."  I hate all those nasty colorings and other ingredients that are in there!

Anyways, I started thinking about my blood type (A) ferritin and hair loss, AND low acid.  Dr. D says blood type A tends to have low acid.  

Do you think it's possible my hair loss is due to LOW ACID and the inability for my body to absorb my nutrients resulting in low ferritin and hair loss?

And if so, should I be taking something for my low acid.  Do I buy Betaine HCL, or a digestive enzyme?

I could really use your help on this matter.  I'm getting so scared because I have lost so much more hair since I last posted.   It's no fun as a 53 yr young female looking like those Smilies faces!

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hairloss in our cases might be also related to menopausal issues   would look for a good endocrinologiste .....
I take larger amounts of all trace elements and minerals, especially here silicea and then to sustain my thyroide 2x500mg's of l'tyrosine....since I begun that treatment my hairloss reduced itself by more than 50%....


ok, now it doesn't bother anymore, I cut it short....short...short.......


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Thank you for your information Tomatilla -- been there done that.  Trust in 7 years of losing hair, I've so many Doctors including my family doctor, Internist, Dermatologist, Gynocologist and Endocrinologist, which is why I'm here.  All they do is hand me a bottle of Rogaine, or tell me they have  nice wigs.  

The last endcrinologist I saw looked at my test results and said my ferritin reading of "12" was fine.  MY TSH (for thyroidi) went up to 4.36 and she also said it's fine, as my hair was falling all over her desk.  I'm dealing with idiots here who just don't care, so unfortunatley, I am going to have to try and figure this out myself, a hopefully with some help on tis forum.

I know it's not fine, and my massive hair loss is the body trying to tell me something is amiss.

I know Dr. D would offer the best input, but unfortunately, I cannot afford to visit his clinic.  
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get your serotyping panel done asap and follow one of the health series books which best apply to you, religiously!

the fatigue book comes to mind....see which might be better.

the trick is getting your system into balance.
concentrating on your gut for better absorption.


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Lola:

What is the serotyping panel?  Is that different than the secretor test?

I have most of Dr. D's book, and I do my very best in following the diet according to my blood type. . . but still "hair loss."

Rose
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the serotyping panel I had done in Phoenix had my secretor test as well as my MN system and in the case of As, A1 or A2 depending.

that alone gives you an overview of your status, to apply the guidelines accordingly.


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Doing a search leads me to quite a few posts in regard to this.
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?v-search/p-2/


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In looking at all my blood work for the past 7 years I noticed my ferritin is low.  In mentioning my iron to my Doctor in June, I requested a ferritin test which resulted in a low count of 26.  In September I asked my gyno to test again and it was down to 12.  As a result she wrote a prescription for iron called "Repliva."  I hate all those nasty colorings and other ingredients that are in there!


There are better iron supplements, look for Floradix or SpaTone (both liquids).  Also ensure you are eating enough animal protein, getting enough B vitamins (especially B12).  Do you know your genotype?  If not, find out and follow that diet.  You may be an Explorer, a genotype prone to liver issues which will affect blood (ferritin, anemia) and hormonal balance.

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Anyways, I started thinking about my blood type (A) ferritin and hair loss, AND low acid.  Dr. D says blood type A tends to have low acid.  

Do you think it's possible my hair loss is due to LOW ACID and the inability for my body to absorb my nutrients resulting in low ferritin and hair loss?

And if so, should I be taking something for my low acid.  Do I buy Betaine HCL, or a digestive enzyme?


These may provide short-term help, but do not address the issue of WHY you have low acid.  It could be autoimmune (pernicious anemia, in which case B12 becomes even more important for you than it already is) or just your body not correctly preparing for digestion.  Use of bitters, smelling food before eating, chewing slowly, eating smaller meals, or food combining could help.

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Thank you for your information Tomatilla -- been there done that.  Trust in 7 years of losing hair, I've so many Doctors including my family doctor, Internist, Dermatologist, Gynocologist and Endocrinologist, which is why I'm here.  All they do is hand me a bottle of Rogaine, or tell me they have  nice wigs.  

The last endcrinologist I saw looked at my test results and said my ferritin reading of "12" was fine.  MY TSH (for thyroidi) went up to 4.36 and she also said it's fine, as my hair was falling all over her desk.  I'm dealing with idiots here who just don't care, so unfortunatley, I am going to have to try and figure this out myself, a hopefully with some help on tis forum.


Clearly you need a practitioner that can understand how all these issues relate and how to treat them holistically.  Diet and lifestyle will support your body, but you are in need of more than this to address these long-standing imbalances and for that you need a professional natural health practitioner.  Perhaps at this time you can't afford this, but maybe longer-term you can save up or maybe you can endeavor to find a family physician that is a bit more in touch with natural medicine?


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Rose, sorry that wasn't meant to offend but are you living in a stressful situation in case of offsprings or hubby or..or..or sometimes our hairloss can be a sign of stress and or we have to give something away without our acceptancy,meant here is....... so we have to loose something else instead, .......


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Rose, do a search on B6, more importantly active B6 which is called P5P.  Sometimes you can have a deficiency of B6 even though you eat foods with it or even supplement it because the liver isn't converting it to the active P5P form.  In that case you can supplement with P5P.

B6 raises stomach acid levels and has also helped with hair loss.  Perhaps by raising your stomach acid you will have better digestion and improve your iron levels.

I've often read that when you supplement one of the B vitamins, you should also take it with a B complex supplement as well.  Extra B12 like Whimsical suggested is something to consider also.

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I had similar issues with the hair loss. I know you have been to many doctors, and so have I.  I am 57 yrs old and after many doctors not helping with my hair issues, I soon found out that the thyroid blood tests that I was getting were the standard TSH, T3 and T4, but I really needed, Free T3 and FREE T4 done to show me exactly how much of the thyroid hormone was being utlized by my body.  In my case, I had to take a thyroid hormone (Armour) after many synthetics over the years, plus the fact that my thyroid was destroyed by radioactiveiodine (I would never recommend this after my experience).  Once my levels stablized, my hair stopped shedding.  This may or may not be your issue, but I think it needs to be revisited.  You may need to see a holistic doctor, as I think someone suggested, who has no problem thinking outside the box.  Anyway, when you get a chance, Mary Shomon, Thyroid Advocate, has a book on her website that deals with hairloss, especially if it may be a hormonal issue.  Just quiry her name and her websites will come up.  I am on a thyroid yahooogroup with other women and men who are having issues with hair loss, low ferriten, etc.

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Thanks to everyone for replying to post! In the abcense of a knowledgable Doctor, I need all the help I can get.  

To:  Whimsical:
Unfortunately, as blood type A, I cannot eat red meat.  And I don't know if someone who is blood type A can be an explorer?  I know we can be a Teacher, but I forgot what the other one is.  I know I have a lot of swirls on my fingers.  I tried the liquid iron, Floradix, but it made me a "loos-y goos-y" and gave me diarreha.  Maybe it was the herbs in there; don't know.

To:  Tomatilla:
You're so funny and cute, not to worry, by no means was I offended.  That's what everyone is here for, to give their input and help everyone.

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Roller56:
I also wonder if I have a thyroid problem.  My TSH was 0.86 years ago, and was 4.36 in June.  And then down to 0.82 in September?  The endo said "it's fine."  My Free T3 & Free T4 also was in the normal range.  Or so she says.  So you have the thyroid yahoo group link you belong to?  I've been communicating with a few people on the "realthyroidhelp" forum but have not had any success.

The problem is I need to get in the hands of a caring and knowledgable Doctor, and I cannot find one!  It's so frustratinng.  They just don't care.

I only wish I could find someone.  I live in the Midwest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, which is also near the Illinois border.  Any suggestions?

Thank you kindly.
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Hi Lola:

Thanks for the referral list, however not a one of those names which come up for "Wisconsin" are helpful.  One of the women listed is just a gal in a beauty salon who sells his products and was worthless.  And ditto for the other two.

I'm desperately trying to find a Holistic Doctor.

I hope someone on this site lives in Wisconsin, or even Illinois who has a great Doctor they can refer me to!
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Thanks to everyone for replying to post! In the abcense of a knowledgable Doctor, I need all the help I can get.  

To:  Whimsical:
Unfortunately, as blood type A, I cannot eat red meat.  And I don't know if someone who is blood type A can be an explorer?  I know we can be a Teacher, but I forgot what the other one is.  I know I have a lot of swirls on my fingers.  I tried the liquid iron, Floradix, but it made me a "loos-y goos-y" and gave me diarreha.  Maybe it was the herbs in there; don't know.


Red meat is not the only source of iron, chicken or turkey will also help.  Yes, an Explorer can be type A and if you are an Explorer, red meat is more important.  



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So let me get this straight. . . Even though I am blood type A, if I'm an explorer, I can eat red meat?  I do eat a lot of fish, chicken and turkey, so you would think I'm getting my protein.  Oh. . . my kingdom for some hair!  

Now please don't take this the wrong way. . . remember sense of humor warrented here -- here I am asking Dr. D for his help with my female hair loss, but look at Dr. D's head!  Oops.

Is it the teacher or explorer that has the whorls (sorry, in my previous post I said swirls - duh, brain fart!) beause I a whole bunch of whorls.

I need to get my books out again tonight and read.
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http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Naturopathic+Physicians/S-WI/

http://www.wellness.com/find/Integrative%20Doctor/WI

These are two options for Wisconsin.

Rose, all you need to do is google "holistic physicians, Integrative MDs, naturopathic physicians, or alternative medicine in your city and state"...then start making phone calls and ask if a particular practice has dealt successfully with female hair loss.  

I wish you the best!  I know you're really struggling with this....





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I use several support groups for my thyroid issues.  These groups have a lot of good information concerning hair loss and low ferriten in their files.  You can go into yahoo and search through the groups there for one that may suit you.  In the meantine these are a few groups I like to visit:

naturalthyroidhormones@yahoogroups
The_Thyroid_Support_Group@yahoogroups
Thyroid@yahoogroups

also:

http://www.thyroid-info.com
http://www.about.thyroid.com
naturalthyroidhormonealternatives@yahoogroups

These are just a few areas that deal with various issues that affect our bodies, especially for women.

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thank you...and lurke for l'tyrosine, a natural thyroide booster and makes clear in the mind....


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