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dirrty_blonde_mp
Monday, January 14, 2008, 3:31am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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hello everyone,

i was just wondering who of you all uses deflect and what are the benefits you have seen from using it?
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Mercedes
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if I'm likely to be eating wheat, I take deflect so I don't wind up being sick for three days. Deflect pretty much lets me cheat without suffering intense consequences. I get a really bad reaction to wheat, but sometimes want the bday cake at a function, or feel obliged to eat something someone made, etc.

I take it as supp just to help heal from previous lectin abuse, but can't say that I've noticed anything from taking as a general supp.

However, I keep some in my purse for emergencies when I'm out. And I always take it on vacation with me.
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Can't live without it!





Mom to 4 B's...living with extreme food allergies to wheat, all dairy, eggs and pineapple !! ( Me, not the kids..)
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I'm a big fan of Deflect. I take it both on an empty stomach and with foods that are less than ideal. I'm out of it at the moment, and am traveling away from home.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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allthingsintime
Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 9:37am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I have celiac disease
I can't eat any form or amount of wheat, no matter how small.
Over the Christmas holidays we had dinner at my husband's aunt and uncle's.  She was a nutritionist for over 20 years, she counseled celiacs. She was (and always is) really good about asking me about every single thing she cooked, can I eat this, can I eat that is this okay etc etc etc except fo r the roast beef.  I should have asked, I generally do, but considering her background, and how she usually checks everything with me I didn't.  A half hour later I had to ask, I'd eaten something I absolutely couldn't eat.  Sure enough she'd seasoned the meat with a wheat containing worcestershire sauce. Again considering her background I was a little shocked when she said "oh....well it's only on the outside of the meat it shoudln't be a problem"  I was sick and in agony for a week.

honestly this anecdote is about Deflect, wait for it here it comes

the other night I was eating some "potato" chips.  They're not actually made from potato chips they're made from an assortment of other root vegetables, are O safe and are delicious.  I buy them all the time at my local organic market.  As with all things I re-read the ingredients periodically, but not every singel time I buy the product.
I hadn't read them this time and they'd added some #$^^$#$%$@$@!# wheat to the ingredients.  Again about 20 minutes after my first bite my stomach told me something was very wrong, so I read the ingredients.
here's the part where I have a suspicion the deflect comes in, I've been taking it for not quite a week
remember this is celiac disease, it will NEVER be safe for me to eat any variety of whet or wheat by-product
that said the chips bothered me, I was uncomfortable, very, very upset digestions, many trips to the loo the following morning (ate the offending yummy around midnight).  but only for a day, not for a week, and not gut wrenching agony.

I imagine for normal non celiac lectin exposure it will be amazing.

personally I am going to continue taking it for healing and repair, and to guard against accidental badness.  I strive for 100% compliance to my type O diet, and would have to say I'm over 99%,  for me I just can't right now use deflect as a reason to eat something I can't tolerate.  But for others with less severe reactions (my reactions to corn, potatoes and coconut are pretty hardcore)  I think it could be a miracle.  for me, I think maybe next year I'll eat a plate of nachos, maybe.   mmmmmmmmm tortillas......
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That's fantastic that Deflect helps you, allthingsintime!

I know people with Celiac who ingest Pascalite clay for the same purpose  - for accidental gluten exposure.

http://www.pascalite.com/

It binds with gluten (studies have verified this apparently). This use isn't listed on the website, but it's true. Red wine helps too, apparently, for those who can drink it.

I might have developed full blown Celiac had I continued to eat gluten grains. When I dropped wheat from my diet my fibromyalgia almost completely disappeared! Wow. When I dropped all gluten grains my tendency toward anxiety dropped a lot.

Does anyone know if Deflect for As is okay for all A GenoTypes?
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Quoted from Novelia
That's fantastic that Deflect helps you, allthingsintime!

I know people with Celiac who ingest Pascalite clay for the same purpose  - for accidental gluten exposure.

http://www.pascalite.com/

It binds with gluten (studies have verified this apparently). This use isn't listed on the website, but it's true. Red wine helps too, apparently, for those who can drink it.

I might have developed full blown Celiac had I continued to eat gluten grains. When I dropped wheat from my diet my fibromyalgia almost completely disappeared! Wow. When I dropped all gluten grains my tendency toward anxiety dropped a lot.

Does anyone know if Deflect for As is okay for all A GenoTypes?


Yes.  I had asked that question of Mikeo yesterday about deflect for O's.  As he says..."it ain't going anywhere".

Debra



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I take Deflect before every meal and I am gluten intolerant. I don't eat gluten at all anymore,
but I believe for old lectin damage, Deflect is helping to heal my damaged gut.


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I take Deflect once a day and keep it in my purse in case I get blindsided by something.
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Ellie
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I cannot afford to always have it, but have definitely found it helpful in the past, especially when going to a situation where you can't control what food you eat. (it helps with the anxiety too knowing that you can minimise any potential after effects - if I remember I found it helpful taking it beforehand where possible)


8 feb 2008:Weight Loss on GTD so far (without trying): 4 kilos (about 8 lbs - half a stone)
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I take it every day.  My son takes it only when he knows he has been eating avoids.  


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I have read all the ravings of how wonderful Deflect is. I also always had it on hand to take if needed. Then I ran out and was also a bad girl   in that period of time. I quickly learned just how good this product is. Suffice it to say, I won't run out again. It's good stuff!!



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Deflect is an excellent product. It really works exactly as advertised. I always keep some with me. It's fantastic for gut repair from lectin damage and also as a safeguard when eating out. Highly recommended!


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I read this about one of the ingredients in my Deflect for A's so I have to discuss this with Dr. D when I go see him.. This is by Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw, two respected longevity scientists. I am reluctant to take it now.

Why We Choose Cysteine Rather Than N-Acetylcysteine

N-acetylcysteine (NAC) is a potent nonphysiological (i.e., it is not found naturally in the body) precursor of GSH that increases GSH levels by donating cysteine. The problem with NAC is that, as reported in many papers, it is such a powerful antioxidant that it can inhibit reactive oxygen species (ROS) signaling that is a necessary part of many normal chemical pathways. Hence, we have been very reluctant to use it, at least as an everyday supplement. For example, one recent paper8 reported that NAC interfered with the ROS (reactive oxygen species) signaling pathway by which erythropoietin stimulates the creation of red blood cells. This was in a study of erythropoietin-induced differentiation of erythroid progenitors derived from mouse fetal liver. Treatment with another potent antioxidant, pyrrolidine dithiocarbamate (PDTC), also caused the attenuation of expression of TER119 (an erythroid-specific antigen). The authors conclude, “The results suggest reactive oxygen species are involved in Epo [erythropoietin]-mediated erythroid differentiation.” In fact, this may have happened to one of us (Sandy), who was taking N-acetylcysteine (but no longer does). Upon having her regular lab tests during her NAC supplementation period, she discovered that her red blood cell levels had declined to half of their previous amount.
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Why We Choose Cysteine Rather Than N-Acetylcysteine


re: the whole article (didnt quote the whole thing so as to take up less forum space) ...... anyway I hope to get some feed back from Dr D himself. That article is a bit disconcerting!  



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I read this about one of the ingredients in my Deflect for A's so I have to discuss this with Dr. D when I go see him.. This is by Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw, two respected longevity scientists. I am reluctant to take it now.


One thing I can think of right off the top is that Life Extension (Shaw and Pearson's organization)often recommends very high doses of supplements.  The amount in Deflect is low.  It's too bad Shaw doesn't say how much of it she was taking.  Life Extension is still selling 600mg capsules of it, saying to take 1 to 3 per day.

(Note that I am a member of Life Extension and I am grateful to them for often being the first to make available the high dose good quality supplements that probably saved my life.  But I used them with the guidance of my naturopathic doctor, and later by doing my own research too.)

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Mayflowers
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I hear ya.  I know Pearson and Shaw advocate high dosages of vitamins. I can't do it. I was taking L cysteine only 500 mg a day for three years..back when they first mentioned the skin and hair beneftis. I suddenly started getting a migraine every day. I couldn't figure out what was causing it and then when I forgot to take a cysteine one day, I didn't have the migraine and I realized it was from the cysteine.  I can tolerate small amounts. I take their one per meal radical shield and if I take 2 caps that's only 66 mgs and I can see even the benefits of that without OD'ing.  I don't know how they do it.  I can't take high doses.  I'd take Dr. D's vitamins if he didn't put orange in it. Though I have no idea why he did that when oranges are an avoid for type A people. (I'm allergic to organges anyway, and his vitamins made my face break out just like oranges do) Maybe he'll enlighten me....

Sandy takes 2 capsules of 175mg 4 times a day.  That's 700 mg a day. I guess she can tolerate it...So you think it's the high dosage doing it?  It would be nice to ask them, but they're hermits and no one can ask them a question. That really annoys me.  Life Enhancement said they were "retired" Really? Then why are they still coming out with all these new weight loss and anti aging supplements?  They'll be at the next Life Extension Expo in Vegas...
we can corner them then....mooooahhahahahahah!

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I was on a trip in san diego and got some cross contaminated food and could feel it coming. Itchy throat I hurried to my hotel room got two deflect and polyflora and took those. within 30 mins my system was calmed and not problems further.

If I eat something that is the least bit contaminated I literally do NOT digest for a week (all food comes out as it was chewed). For me the Deflect and polyflora are life savers.

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Are we supposed to take Deflect before or with the offending meal?
I took it after and it didn't seem to help.
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deflect will help heal your gut being consistent and compliant, but it should not be a 'license' to eat avoids.  

read my signature, in Dr. D. s own words!


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Are we supposed to take Deflect before or with the offending meal?
I took it after and it didn't seem to help.


I nearly always take a Deflect before I eat out because of all the "hidden" stuff that we have no control over. I don't think I would be eating out very often if I didn't have Deflect. I didn't know before the BTD that black pepper is in just about everything in a restaurant. I react terribly to it. Without Deflect it takes me three days to get over eating out! Red pepper is even worse....
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I never had a problem with black pepper. One of the few things I don't have a problem with.  I have to ask Dr. D about the form of cysteine used in making it, before I decide if I want to take it religously.
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