Hi All,
I think I am a gatherer.  But I don't know if I am measuring my legs correctly.  The upper and lower are close, but I am not sure of where to do the upper.  Has anyone had this problem and
can tell me more?  Thanks very much.....

hi Paulam,
in my signiture line is a link to Dr.D's youtube videos that should be able to help you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnmUUVuVMA&feature=related heres the link

paulam...make sure someone else is taking the measurements for you.

Debra

I agree; I tried to do the measuring myself, and came up as a Teacher...which didn't seem to fit me at all.

OK, thanks for the help, turns out I was reading the wrong page on Genotype calculators and thought I might be a hunter.  But no, I am definitely a Gatherer.  All the measurements are correct.
I think the index/ring finger can change things, but mine are definitely G type.  Thanks again.  Hope you can figure it out Drea.  What do you think you might be if not a teacher?
ps.  I always was too fertile, that's definitely a Gatherer......

Unlike Paula, I think I'm OK with measuring my upper leg -- it's the lower-leg measuring that I don't understand.  (And I've given up on UTube -- it takes about a minute to download each second of video over our dial-up connection.)

OK, the ankle bump is obvious.  But "the bump on the outer side of your leg, just below your kneecap" is not so obvious to me.  The main contenders seem to be the top of the tibia and the top of the fibula.  Does anyone know for sure which one Dr. D is talking about?

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OK, the ankle bump is obvious.  But "the bump on the outer side of your leg, just below your kneecap" is not so obvious to me.  The main contenders seem to be the top of the tibia and the top of the fibula.  Does anyone know for sure which one Dr. D is talking about?

This video might help you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnmUUVuVMA

The fibula is the bone on the outside of the leg. I know I broke it once.

Quoted from Carol the Dabbler

OK, the ankle bump is obvious.  But "the bump on the outer side of your leg, just below your kneecap" is not so obvious to me.  The main contenders seem to be the top of the tibia and the top of the fibula.  Does anyone know for sure which one Dr. D is talking about?

Feel for the groove/indentation made by the knee joint on the lateral side of the leg.  Place the measuring tape just below the joint line and measure to the lateral malleolus (the ankle bone bump).

Novelia -- that's a five-minute video, so it would take something like five hours to download here.  I'll give it a try if I get really desperate!

GCG -- Yeah, that's the bumpiest bump in my knee area, and it's definitely on the "outside" side of the lower leg.  But I was talking with the gal at the health-food store earlier today, and she figures he means the top of the tibia, which (on me, anyhow) is sort of a broad ridge along the underside of the kneecap.  Just wondering if anyone knows for sure what Dr. D meant.

I just posted it above your last post Carol....

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Feel for the groove/indentation made by the knee joint on the lateral side of the leg.  Place the measuring tape just below the joint line and measure to the lateral malleolus (the ankle bone bump).

Thanks, Dr. C!  I think I understand you, but just to be sure, could you put a name on that "bump" that the book talks about?  Sorry to be so picky, but my upper/lower leg ratio is pretty close.

I think this is the same as Dr. Natalie Colicci explained above.

The Blood type test kit says this:

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Measure lower leg length: measure distance between the bump on the outside of your leg just below the knee cap (lateral condyle of the tibia) and the boney bump on the outside of the ankle (sphyrion fibulare)

The bony landmark below the knee joint is called the "head of the fibula."  I have attached a link to wikipedia so you can see a picture of it to visualize it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_fibula

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The bony landmark below the knee joint is called the "head of the fibula."  I have attached a link to wikipedia so you can see a picture of it to visualize it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_fibula

Head of the fibulia is considerably lower than the Lateral_condyle_of_the_tibia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_condyle_of_the_tibia

Is the blood type test kit in error??

This will switch me from warrior to explorer.

You will notice in this picture that the bump that protrudes is the head of the fibula.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gray258.png

If you want to measure from the lateral condyle of the tibia you would measure from the joint line.

Thanks again, Dr. C.  So Dr. D's "bump" is the head of the fibula.  That being the case, it sounds like the kit is in error -- though it probably makes no real difference for a lot of people, only for those of us with a nearly 1:1 ratio.

Off to measure one more time.  I think I'm going to end up a Teacher.

My measurements may be totally off - based on the above explanation, I misinterpreted how the book said to measure.  I was measuring more on the insides of my legs.  I'm not even sure I can find a bony bump defining my fibula.  I'll have to find my measurements to see if this changes my status.

I am more confused now.  Are we to measure from the ankle bone to the head of the fibula?  (which seems to be higher and more to the front of the leg)  Isn't the ankle knob the lower end of the tibia?  A straighter measure looks like it would be from the upper end of the tibia to the lower end of the same bone.

What I did to determine my lower leg length is to do all sorts of measurements from the landmarks noted in the book, video, and from what was given in our Master's guide at the conference. I didn't know if I was to be above the condyle, beside it, below it, centered on it, etc. so I just took all kinds of measurements and I still got the same ratio... lower leg just a wee bit longer than the upper leg... about less than one half to almost an inch of difference, depending on where I placed the measuring tape. So if you get the same ratio when you measure repeatedly, I think that is what is important.

It would also be nice to know what constitutes "equal" in length. My guess would be that 1/8 of an inch difference or less would constitute equal in length. But that is just my opinion on the matter.

It appears that my attempt to help has caused confusion.  I will see if I can download a picture and put some arrows on it and then post it.....     

Quoted from 12

It appears that my attempt to help has caused confusion.  I will see if I can download a picture and put some arrows on it and then post it.....     

I appreciate your help.  I think a picture would help - maybe also a picture for upper leg measurement.  Thanks for helping.

Please excuse my primitive photo editing skills.  I actually had to use two different computers to accomplish this terrible piece of work.

Anyway, you want to measure from the top arrow to the bottom arrow.  If you are padded or overweight, you may not feel the upper bump, so you feel for the joint line (on the anterio-lateral side of the knee) and it will lead you to the bump. Actually, when you fall off the joint line your fingers will land on the head of the fibula, the bump.

Geez, I hope I don't confuse you guys more!!  

Thank you so much Dr. Nalalie...everyone copy and paste away in your files.

Debra

Quoted from 12

Geez, I hope I don't confuse you guys more!!  

No, you have been of great assistance!!

I was ready to give up on the Genotype diet, and go back to the A nonsecretor diet.

The warrior diet was just not work for me.

I was not able to digest the food. I was getting irritable bowel problems. Candida was flaring up. I was getting fungal problems on my skin. I had developed a pain on the left side in the area of the liver ...

I think the change to explorer now that I reduced my lower leg measurement by a couple centimeters is going to work much better.  

Thank you!!!