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Tillarna
Sunday, November 18, 2007, 11:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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and I am suffering big time today...

I went to my brothers place for dinner.  He mostly lives in Bangkok but was home in Australia for next couple of weeks.

He cooked rice with chicken, snowpeas, carrot, bok choy (I think) probably also had chilli and garlic .. and I suspect fish sauch.  I don't know what else.

Today I feel awful  
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I'm sorry, Tillarna.  Was it something in the sauce, do you think?
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Sorry you are not feeling so well Tillarna.  The first ingredients sound okay until you got to the fish sauce.  Was it homemade or pre-made?  And...will depend on what was in it.

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store bought fish sauce

I have no idea what was in it

I kinda figured it was the fish sauce.
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Do you have any deflect(NAC) or bromelain?  Or even club soda?  Get out for some O erercise if you can.

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Ah, Tillarna, your days of eating somebody else's cooking are over.   If somebody's cooking for me and asks what I can or can't have, I make it as non-complicated as I possibly can, like, "Sure, that stir-fry sounds great, but would you mind scooping mine out before you add the fish sauce (or whatever)?"  The more people hear about the list of yeas and nays, the more they say, "   Why would you do that to yourself?"  We're leaving in the morning to go to Florida for Thanksgiving and we're taking a whole lot of food with us.  Sad, but necessary.  Deflect is a lifesaver.  We always take it on trips with us.


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have a great trip!


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Gosh I don't even know what deflect is.

Thank you all for you responses.  I am so new to this and sometimes I feel like I'll never make it work.
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Gosh I don't even know what deflect is.

Thank you all for you responses.  I am so new to this and sometimes I feel like I'll never make it work.


Baby steps Tillarna.  And...keep posting here for questions and support.  Best place to get it.  

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Deflect keeps those harmful Lectins form atacking to you, and keeps you from feeling so bad afterwards.


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where do you get it?
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Tillarna
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Hmmmmm guess I can't buy it in Australia eh?

Aussie Dollar plus freight ....... I may have to take out a bank loan!!



I am feeling better today but still not 100%
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Tillarna,

I was feeling your pain last night.  I went to a "progressive dinner" party with friends.  The idea is that you eat a different course at each house.  This was, of course, a Thanksgiving Day themed dinner.

At the first stop, corn, stuffing, cornbread, and a veggie tray.  I ate 4 carrot sticks.  So far, so good.

Next stop, turkey, mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce.  I had some turkey, and the cranberry sauce looked homemade, so I had some of that too.

Last stop, dessert.  Pumpkin pie, chocolate pie, apple crisp, Cool Whip, and ice cream.  "Danger, danger Will Robinson, danger!"  I took a chance on the apple crisp, knowing it had a little wheat in it, but I can tolerate small amounts fine.  But silly me had to have a little white creamy poison to top it off.

Now the party started at 7 pm, and by 1:30 am I had a full-blown migraine.  Stabbing pain behind my left eye, internal shakiness, chills, nausea.  Misery.  I had to force myself to vomit (twice) to settle my stomach before I could get any sleep.  Fortunately, when I awoke today (at the crack of 1 pm) I felt recovered, but I learned a valuable lesson: never assume it's safe to eat until you know exactly what's in it.  I KNOW that artificial non-diary cream substitute garbage didn't help, but I'm also suspicious of the cranberry sauce and the apple crisp.  They both looked homemade, but looking back, I bet that the base for both items was canned (canned cranberry sauce and canned apple pie filling), and therefore, loaded with corn syrup.  Ah well, live and learn.
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woah, those reactions are not nice, I have had those symptoms from ONE packet of chilli potato chips recently.. and ive never had migraines before, but this year I have had a few  

I am wondering if magnesium may help, if I have anymore I will try it and report back.. (..deflect has magnesium in it)
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Oh drive55 I feel sorry for you.  It can be so hard sometimes, especially at this time of year.

I have a ladies dinner to go to on 4th dec which is a Christmas dinner for our church ladies.  Then a work Christmas party on 7th.

Work one shouldn't be too bad because it is a Hog's breath who do steak and veg/salad with curly fries (like a pigs tail) and I can avoid the fries.

Not so easy with the ladies dinner ... it is at a greek restaurant.  I think I am going to phone the restaurant and see if they can cater to my needs.
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you can get compliant cuts of meat there, no worries!


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I hope so Lola.  You must still be able to have a social life and be compliant ... I hope .. lol
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grilled beef or lamb will always be on the menu.....
salads, too...... no worries.


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greek can be a good way to go.....feta cheese is...ok....and olives and hummus,  mmmm.
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Tillarna, so sorry to hear you had difficulties after eating out. Unfortunately it's very hard to get around the avoids. If you aren't able to buy Deflect in Australia (yet), you might look at a health food or natural foods store for NAG--n-acetyl glucosamine. If you aren't able to find that, try glucosamine sulfate. Either one will help to some extent with getting rid of lectins. The NAG works better, but g. sulfate is better than nothing.

Here in the States it's almost impossible to have a meal in a restaurant that isn't loaded with corn derivatives or wheat. Even in places where they cook fresh foods you still have to deal with things like grill seasoning or sulfites on the lettuce. About all you can do is pop some Deflect and limit going out, especially if you have a chronic illness. Sad but true.

Having said that, I'd still love it if one of the local non-chain pizza places would make spelt-crust pizza. I usually make my own, but it would be so nice to have someone else make it once in a while!


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Tillarna
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Thank you very much for that info .. I will see what I can find.

It is a little easier here I think to get a meal but you have to be specific.  Order grilled steak no seasoning and salad with all dressings/sauces on the side or no dressings/sauces.

I think some places are better than others.  I guess I'm about to find out on 4th
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I am wondering if magnesium may help, if I have anymore I will try it and report back.. (..deflect has magnesium in it)


So yesterday I was at an all day meeting and had all my favourites.. coffee, pastry, coffee, bread, brownie, coffee..
and you dont have to guess the migraine that brewed..

after searching this site a few days ago I found Dr D recommends Feverfew herb for headaches, not having any magnesium at home I do have some Feverfew and I had 2 capsules, the migraine eased off to an ache and was gone by dinnertime, amazing.
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worked almost like deflect on you!


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