Hello, I'm about to embark on the recommended Yeast/Fungal protocal.  I have everything I need except the Clove Fruit (Eugenia sp).  I have no idea where to find this.  I found cloves, but I'm not sure this is the same thing.  Anyone know about this?

Regards,
Marion

http://www.herbdatanz.com/clove_usd1926_picture_monograph.htm

mu ding xiang       clove fruit       Caryophylli Fructus

http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/config.pl?read=78037
here s an explanation.....

about the protocols and how to apply those
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000182.htm

I had a hard time finding it too, so, I did everything except the clove.

Dr. D's proceedures on how to use the protocols

How about the status of any dental fillings?  Do you have amalgam/silver?  If you do it's not recommended to kill the candida until you get them removed.[/i]


ETA:  I also meant to say, Nice to see you Marion!  I was just thinking about you the other day, wondering where some of our male posters were.

It's the only thing that I'm missing.  I really want to follow the protocal exactly.  

Regards,
Marion

Oh yeah, thanks for thinking about me.  I'm doing well.  I don't have any dental fillings.  So, I'm okay in that department.  My nutritionist suggested that I start taking some food grade hydrogen peroxide to help fight the candida.  He said it wouldn't interfere with the D'Adamo protocal.  Any experience with this?

Regards,
Marion

Quoted from Marion78

Oh yeah, thanks for thinking about me.  I'm doing well.  I don't have any dental fillings.  So, I'm okay in that department.  My nutritionist suggested that I start taking some food grade hydrogen peroxide to help fight the candida.  He said it wouldn't interfere with the D'Adamo protocal.  Any experience with this?

Regards,
Marion

I don't know about peroxide for O's based on blood type, but I know that you have to be certain to get the peroxide diluted adequately or it'll give you quite a "burn"...

Hi Marion 78 -

I can remember driving myself nuts trying to find clove fruit several years ago.  I think one day I just nibbled on some whole cloves, and that was about it.  Eventually I got busy with other protocols.

Recently a person on our forum motivated me to look into parasite cleansing, bowel cleansing, etc.  After finding out that just the tests cost almost $300 with my N.D., I talked with my chiropractor and decided to go ahead and just do the cleanses.  I will come up with my own concoctions that seem to fit in with blood type protocols.  

I will be using a product called Clarkia, among other things.  One of the components is cloves.

Although I did not buy my Clarkia from this address, they do sell a separate bottle of cloves.  It's the only place I think I've ever seen it:
http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/Cloves_p/dcr-cloves.htm

thanks for the link and sharing it with us!

The thing is are cloves the same thing as clove fruit?  I found a bottle of cloves at the health food store nearby, but it did not say "Eugenia sp."

Regards,
Marion

I believe they are the same thing.........unless I misunderstood/

Well, this is most frustrating.  I found some "cloves."  They come in capsules.  The bottle says "fresh ground cloves," rather than "clove fruite."  The protocal calls for clove fruit.  Also, mine is 450 mg per capsule.  The protocal only calls for 50 mg a day.  Obviously, clove fruit is nowhere to be found.....

Regards,
Marion

Sorry, Marion, I can't tell you if this is the real thing.  I thought it was.  Maybe you can call the company.

Quoted from Marion78

...I have everything I need except the Clove Fruit (Eugenia sp).  I have no idea where to find this...

Cloves {Eugenia caryophyllata, or syn. Syzygium aromaticum
- Myrtaceae}

It is the same thing.

Eugenia sp. is the modern more accepted genus name, rather than the Caryophyllus sp. The 'Caryophylli Fructus' is the Old Latin terminology that is now used for things in complememtary medicine like Homeopathy

Quoted from Schluggell

Cloves {Eugenia caryophyllata, or syn. Syzygium aromaticum
- Myrtaceae}
It is the same thing.
Eugenia sp. is the modern more accepted genus name, rather than the Caryophyllus sp. The 'Caryophylli Fructus' is the Old Latin terminology that is now used for things in complememtary medicine like Homeopathy

okay, so if I read this right......regular whole clove "is" clove fruit. is that correct?
if so, how would I use the clove "oil"? what amount for the protocol?

It may be too harsh to ingest, Pat !
Clove powder a very small pinch on a teaspoon twice a day  in a glass of water fasting better, clove oil dilute 2 drops in honey and diluted in a big water bottle could give an idea, no more drops with pure clove oil, I'd not ingest it less diluted...

So is "clove fruit" the same thing you can buy as "cloves" in the spice section? If so, then ground cloves should  be easy enough to obtain and use.

Quoted from Lola

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2009/08/04/using-the-encyclopedia-protocols?blog=27

is this what you meant to post? I don't see how it ties in with the subject here.  

Cloves, as in the spice you buy whole or powdered, are flower buds, not the fruit.

Quoted Text

how would I use the clove "oil"? what amount for the protocol?

just trying to make you aware of the fact that you do not necessarily need to have absolutely all sups, specially if you can t get them as written, in a protocol.

that s how my link ties in with the subject here

Clove fruit is the little stick like thing with a sort of star effect on the top. it is ground down to a powder.

The question has never been answered to be sure there is not a typo in the UTI protocol.

it says 50mg of clove fruit.

mots caps are 300 mg plus.

question is the 50 mg all you need or a typo? if it is 50 mg what's a easy way to weigh that much, my scales only do grams they certainly don't go that low. I suppose I'll have to weigh 100 cloves and then divide the powder lol what fun.

scals only go down to 2 grams.

http://www.elements4health.com/health-benefits-cloves.html

Eugenol is a chemical compound extracted from the essential oil of cloves and other spices. Eugenol has been shown to be an effective natural anti fungal against the T. mentagrophytes and M. canis dermatophytes (tinia or ringworm), and although tea tree oil is a more effective anti fungal, a combination of tea tree oil and eugenol was found to be more effective. Tests have also demonstrated that essential oil of cloves to be effective against Candida albicans.

Cloves for Diabetes
USDA’s Richard Anderson reports that bayleaf, cinnamon, cloves, and turmeric all can treble insulin activity, hinting that as little as 500 mg might be enough to have some effect. A tea of 500 mg each of these spices, with coriander and cumin, should be enough to treble insulin activity, possibly helping in late-onset diabetes.