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 How much do you sleep at night?
7 to 8 hrs (96 votes)
32.88%
8 to 10 hrs (80 votes)
27.40%
6 to 7 hrs (53 votes)
18.15%
5 to 6 hrs (39 votes)
13.36%
less than 5 hours (20 votes)
6.85%
more than 10 hrs (4 votes)
1.37%
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koahiatamadl
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I started a new job in April and whilst I love the job itself it entails a fair bit of travelling and generally working long hours.  During the week I now average 5.5 hrs of sleep at night - some nights it is less, rarely more.  I then 'catch up' at the weekend.  Clearly this doesn't do your system any good!

So, inspired by Whimsical's blog the other day, my question is - how much do you all sleep?  And what happens if your schedule gets messed up or your circumstances force a new schedule on you?

Those of you who sleep very little - how do you cope in the long-run?  
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hi koahiatamadl,

you don't 'cope'- YOU DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  please, read 'Lights Out' by TS Wiley.  Don't wanna stop?  The diseases that you get will stop you .... permanently (and prematurely)!

so it's some 5.5 (in summer) to 13.5 (or more - winter)

John


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6 to 61/2 hours maximum.

If my schedule gets messed up, the first problem I notice is digestive problems. There was a time where I survived on very little sleep, and over 16 years my system finally crashed-right before I started BTD.
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on a good night, 6 hours, on a bad night anything from 1 hour upwards, but thankfully they are fairly infrequent, although they happen in patches.  

I need about 8 hours I reckon, so am permanently running below par.  Have had this problem for the last 15 years or so - before that I could sleep 8-10 hours a night no problem.


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Since I have read Lights Out (getting between 8 and 91/2 hours of sleep in a very dark room) and have incorporated some of the suggestions n the book the biggest difference I have noticed is I dream more and the dreams are much more vivid ( a signal you're getting a good nights rest) and secondly I had an achy hip which has been alleviated.

Sleep is important because it activates the GH hormone which does all the housework and rebuilding of cells while you sleep....too much light, real or artificial, signals the body to store fat (turns off your leptin) apparently because the body still thinks it's summer, a time when all animals and humans (many moons ago) would eat as much as possible (especially fruits and sugars) so we could produce a layer of fat to get us through the lean food months and cold of the winter. When one stays up late with artificial light say from a computer screen or lights in the house, you begin to crave high carb treats or snacks.

I don't agree with a lot of the things the author writes in this book but I am convinced she is right about the how and why of her sleep argument...she does use a lot of scientific studies in the book that furthers her theory

I go to bed between 10 and 10:30 during the week (weekends an hour later) and wake between 6 and 7:30 which gives me between 8 and 9 1/2 hrs a day


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it depends from the program I've to do......  
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I feel best with 8-10 hours, in one go.

  alek




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Since being diagnosed w/ adrenal failure and reading "Adrenal Fatigue: the 21st Century Stress Syndrome", I usually go to bed by 8PM and rise at 5:30-6:00 AM.
It seems too many are getting too little sleep. Then we wind up w/ all these sicknesses and diseases. Add to that most of us don't drink enough clean water and wah-lah!!, we're sick.
Another good read "Your Body's Many Cries for Water" by Fereydoon Batamanghelidj, M.D.
IMHO, these are 2 very important books to read. Add "Lights Out" and I think a lot of things change for the better.
P.S. I just saw (again) the other day that people who only get 5-6 hours sleep a night, live longer than those that get 8 or more. While I think that's a bunch of hogwash, does anyone know the 'reasoning' behind that?



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Wow, I wish I could sleep that long.  I don't think I've ever been able to sleep more than 6 hours.
I'll have to work on that.
Jane
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hi ib,

most folks do actually sleep for 8hrs each day.  My Dad would brag about his few hours a night, but he never did count the 1.5-2 hr nap each afternoon, nor the nodding-off he did while watching tv.                         Likely most are like he was .... and do not know from-the-inside (this is to them just more theory), how good it is to sleep deeply.

John


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Believe me, I know it is good to sleep deeply, I just can't do it, wish I could!!!


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That's all really interesting stuff.  I'll have to do some reading...  

Fortunately when I do get to put my head down I fall asleep immediately.  I only ever have trouble sleeping when I worry about something and can sleep through just about anything...at least I am not sleeping out of choice...  

Still, I am fed up with always being tired so my two step plan then:  

First, get some kind of routine and to not sleep in at weekends!  And then I have found that I feel ok when I get about 7 hours so I will aim for 7 hrs regularly...anything more is unrealistic at present  
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7 hr is great! unfortunately I am like Kipperkid. 5-6 is about it. I know I need more, but I can't seem to "fall" into it. Plus I wake up to empty bladder once or twice. good thread...if I could learn something from this I will be grateful. (progesterone cream is a help....but still...)
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Quoted from John_McDonell_O+
hi ib,most folks do actually sleep for 8hrs each day.


Yes, and 8 hours is for what I used to aim. Rarely ever did I succeed.   I'd be watching the clock tick down until I had only 5 or  6 hours.
Jane,since being diagnosed w/ the adrenal prob, I KNOW it is absolutely necessary for me to have the extra sleep them to repair, thus my willingness to hit the bed so early.  It will be much tougher in the summer.  
I do now sleep w/ an eye mask on as there is too much light coming in from our dusk to dawn light for my room to be considered in total darkness. Some nights I do have to get up to potty once, but mostly sleep pretty good. Not glad to have adrenal probs, but that is what it took to get me to get in bed at a decent hour.  Not wanting to go to bed at night is a sign of adrenal probs. For the person who gets up around 6 AM, once you get past 10:30 or 11:00 PM, your adrenals kick in for a second shift.  Doing 2 days work in one. This is how, IMHO, so many people have adrenal fatigue problems. For me, I had to be in bed by 9 PM (but didn't know it at the time) since I got up at 4:00-4:30. MY adrenals were kicking in around 9 for that 2nd shift, thus the reason I resisted going to bed even tho I knew I should. Had my second wind goin' on.
koahiatamadl, yes 7 hours is great, especially if you've only been getting 5-1/2.  Something else to bear in mind. Most peoples sleep cycle is 90 min. So if you sleep say, 6 hours, you will be waking at the end of your cycle, which is good. If you wake 45-60 min into it, not good.(works for me like this anyway) You will likely be more tired than when you went to bed, or just as tired, anyway. This is your deep sleep time, FWIU.  My sister used to tell me she could take a 15-20 min nap and be good for another few hours. I used to think she was  .    *I* always took a one hour nap and I was always a zombie when I awoke. Now I know why. Now, I can also, take a 20 nap and be good to go again for a while.  Some peoples sleep cycle is a little longer, maybe extending to 120 min.    Just have to kind of experiment to see how you feel when you awake and how long you've been asleep. Hope you'll be able to get that 7 hours. Your body will love you for it. And don't forget your water.  



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the point of Wiley's book is NOT to superimpose a timed sleep cycle but to follow the sleep-pattern that is already hardwired into human biology.  We go to sleep when the sun goes down and wake when the sun arises.  For Wiley and for many people this means 9-1/2 hrs + each night - 7 MONTHS PER YEAR.  If you read her book, this time frame is winter and deep-sleep does NOT occur when wearing an eye mask but from pineal-gland melatonin release.  Melatonin will stop if light hits ANY SKIN SURFACE not just eyes.

Her notion of a totally dark room, is for 7 months .... winter.  [She also advocates a mild ketosis for this time.]  She does not speak of summer at all.  There are all kinds of things happening here too ((maybe much more than in winter, but for this she is silent.))  The trick to these periods (I suspect) is matching the season with an energy.  For winter it is magnetism + a cool bedroom ... for the summer it is exposure to the colour indigo(night sky) + nighttime UV (on a lunar cycle basis).

this health cycle is not easily achieved, because it is outside the clock-scheduling of modern life.


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I think 8.5 is probably optimal for me.  However, I think lately it's been in the 7-8 range.  My whole life I've not had good sleep habits.  Getting 8.5 hours of sleep each night consistently is something I want in my life because I feel so good when I do this.
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Quoted from John_McDonell_O+
the point of Wiley's book is NOT to superimpose a timed sleep cycle but to follow the sleep-pattern that is already hardwired into human biology.  We go to sleep when the sun goes down and wake when the sun arises.  ..... 
this health cycle is not easily achieved, because it is outside the clock-scheduling of modern life.

John


I can hear you but I can't see this health cycle being achieved at all unless you are retired and can go and hibernate somewhere!  


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Quoted from pkarmeier


Most peoples sleep cycle is 90 min. So if you sleep say, 6 hours, you will be waking at the end of your cycle, which is good. If you wake 45-60 min into it, not good.(works for me like this anyway) You will likely be more tired than when you went to bed, or just as tired, anyway.


I have never really thought about it in terms of sleep cycles but i have found that I often feel less tired after three hours sleep than after 5!  So it might be worth thinking in terms of sleep cycles rather than hours...  
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Quoted from koahiatamadl
I have never really thought about it in terms of sleep cycles but i have found that I often feel less tired after three hours sleep than after 5!  So it might be worth thinking in terms of sleep cycles rather than hours...  


That would make perfect sense, since at 5 hours you are almost back into your deep sleep. (if you sleep cycle is 90, which it sounds like it is)  I take this into consideration when I set my alarm for setting up. I have an hour window, so it works okay for me. I know everyone is not that fortunate.
resting, I sleep the fairly long hours I do strictly for adrenal repair. I have not read this book yet, as I am still waiting for it to arrive. I do see from what you written (and thanks for this), that I still need to do some darkening of my room.  I really appreciate all the info you impart re: this, as good solid sleep is really extra 'portant for me right now.  



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I voted 8-10 hours.  

I make a point to sleep at least for eight hours nightly.  My body feels best wth this amount of sleep.  

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I voted 8 - 10 hours.  I have only recently begun to allow myself a minimum of 9 hours in bed every night.  Even if I don't sleep the entire time, I find that my sense of well being does much better with that much time.  At 6 or 7 hours, I feel that I am steadily moving into sleep debt and fatigue begins to grow.
I don't think I can "catch up" on the weekend if I exhaust myself for the other 5 days.



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Very interesting thread!  Thanks for starting it, koahiatamadl

I went to bed at around 6:30 pm yesterday evening.  It is now around 1:30 am; I woke up at around 12:30 am.  

I felt pretty rested when I woke up, although a bit sleepy, if that makes sense.

I really want to get this "sleep thing" figured out.  Guess I'm just going to have to keep working at it, and consider it a work in progress with hope on the horizon.

Its been a while since I've had a sleep study, so maybe I'll schedule one. Has anybody used Requip for Restless Leg Syndrome?

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It could have been fun to see this broken down in BT.
I sleep 8-9 hours pr night- I can´t nap not even when I had a breastfeeding baby.
I sleep far more in winter- IF I actually could get to bed early enough!
I think 10 hours would be ideal around midwinter - but then I would have to go to bed at 8 in the evening and that is NOT realistic.
In summer I can be fine with around 7,5- 8 hours- but when we hit equinox I can feel I need more or less.


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Quoted from MyraBee
I went to bed at around 6:30 pm yesterday evening.  It is now around 1:30 am; I woke up at around 12:30 am.  
I felt pretty rested when I woke up, although a bit sleepy, if that makes sense.


This coincides w/ a 90 minute sleep cylcle. Exactly so. It is when you wake at that time that you feel so rested.



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If I get less than 8 hours of sleep my legs ache the whole day. I have had this problem since I was very young. I always feel better with around 9 hours.
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