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Lisalea
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Breads that are free of gluten, usually containing soy meal, rice meal, buckwheat, or other gluten free grains, but typically not wheat.


Does this mean that I can still eat this bread even though
BUCKWHEAT is an avoid for me ??!!
At times it can get very confusing


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look for sprouted grain breads only making sure the grains are compliant for your type.

for example, eating rye manna wouldn t be an option for you.


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For any food product make the decision if it is ok to eat based on reading and evaluating each item in the ingredients list. If the ingredients list includes an avoid item then it is up to you to decide if you want to eat the food product.

The problem is that so many food products have avoids in them.


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Does anyone have a recipe for B-compliant bread?
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look for sprouted grain breads only making sure the grains are compliant for your type.

for example, eating rye manna wouldn t be an option for you.


Ooooooh really ???
I thought with sprouted bread the kernel was somehow NOT harmful since it was sprouted ... hmmmmm
Then whats the point of eating Manna (sprouted bread) versus regular bread ??

I still have alot of to learn !!


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For any food product make the decision if it is ok to eat based on reading and evaluating each item in the ingredients list. If the ingredients list includes an avoid item then it is up to you to decide if you want to eat the food product.

The problem is that so many food products have avoids in them.



Thank-u for that ... U said it right on actually !!!
Eating has become such a stressful event !!!
That fact alone isn't good for us ...  


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I thought with sprouted bread the kernel was somehow NOT harmful since it was sprouted ... hmmmmm
Then whats the point of eating Manna (sprouted bread) versus regular bread ??


Not sure exactly what was meant, but, for one thing, sprouting will not eliminate all the gluten in the rye kernel.


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And the rye is not a good option for B´s I think ! not even if sprouted.


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That's true and thank-u to all (as usual) for ur kindness and dedication shown here in order to constantly try to help and guide  ... I appreciate it !!


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Apositive,

sprouting destroys the lectins, not the gluten..

Henriette,

rye manna is beneficial for B's, my son loves it.

Spelt bread is another option for B's..

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Apositive,

sprouting destroys the lectins, not the gluten..

Henriette,

rye manna is beneficial for B's, my son loves it.

Spelt bread is another option for B's..

Cheers,
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rye manna for B'S ???????
I just checked for rye and it says it's an avoid unfortunately ???



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Lisalea,

Please check "essene/manna" bread under grains.


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Lisalea,

Please check "essene/manna" bread under grains.




I will and I thank-u  


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Thank-u for that ... U said it right on actually !!!
Eating has become such a stressful event !!!
That fact alone isn't good for us ...  

Sweetie, eating should not generally* be a stressful event with the BTD!  Just the opposite, it should be a nourishing, delicious, rejuvenating pleasure.  There are no calories, carbs or fat grams to count and nothing to weigh and measure on this diet.  All one has to do is select foods from the beneficial (yay!) and neutral (okay!) lists, and avoids foods from the avoid (boo!  hiss!) list.  If you do what MoDon suggests and learn to read the small print on the ingredients list as almost a reflex action, then you will always understand just what you are getting into and you can choose wisely.  Sometimes something might have one or two ingredients out of 15 that you might think are minor avoids, such as a spice like cinnamon or something, and you might decide it will be no problem.  Other times, the one avoid in there is WHEAT and that would render it Problem Central (for O types like me, anyway...for B's that one problem ingredient might be chicken).  You will learn what is a big deal and what isn't for you over time, but I don't like to hear that you are feeling stress over this diet because that is soooooooooooooooo not what the BTD is about and you don't have to have that experience if you familiarize yourself as best you can with your type's food lists and then read ingredients labels.  And as you gain experience and time on this diet you will find out which avoids are major for you and which are no big deal.

So...no more stressing over it, that's an order!  Even though it can be hard to stick to the BTD in this decidedly non-BTD world, if you familiarize yourself with your beneficial, neutral and avoid foods and then read ingredients labels, you will have all the tools you need to do so, relatively stress-free!

* unless eating out, in which case all bets are off and often, despite our BEST efforts, it does become a challenge--but let's not go there for the moment!



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Apositive,

sprouting destroys the lectins, not the gluten..



Exactly, the question was about gluten.


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Thank-u for taking the time Peppermint Twist, I appreciate ur response  
U have many valid points ... I guess in time I will get better at this.

In the meantime that's why I'm here and yes eating out isn't easy !!
I probably eat many hidden avoids when I do so ... often times I do fall of the wagon;then forgive myself and jump right back on ... sooner or later !!



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Does sprouting destroy or neutralize lectins?



In some cases, yes. In other cases, such as alfalfa sprouts, the lectin activity is enhanced by sprouting. The recommendations for foods are inclusive of whether the food is eaten sprouted or cooked, unless explicitly stated otherwise.

now for all you experts out there:
where is it stated that sprouted rye is ok for Bs?
I must have missed that part somewhere.......



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Thank-u for taking the time Peppermint Twist, I appreciate ur response  
U have many valid points ... I guess in time I will get better at this.

In the meantime that's why I'm here and yes eating out isn't easy !!
I probably eat many hidden avoids when I do so ... often times I do fall of the wagon;then forgive myself and jump right back on ... sooner or later !!

Well, I've been on this here diet for 9 big ones (years, that is) and just this weekend I was at the Outback and had an experience I have been planning on posting about since then, which would be the second experience at the Outback I've posted on in the past few months, so it is even challenging for "vets" on this diet to eat out, seriously.  So don't be hard on yourself or stress out.  This diet is so much about purity, quality and whole foods for each type that it is hard when dining out because restaurants do not have as their primary goal feeding us a diet that is high-quality and pure.  They basically want to add more things to their sauces and glazes and what-not than NYC has subway stops.  And even if you have the experience and knowledge to avoid all those landmines, then, as happened to me this weekend and I shall post about in detail anon, you still can't predict when the kitchen and/or waiter is going to scr*w up and bring you a salad with croutons when you said very clearly NOT to, and a burger with a bun when you said very clearly NOT to.  More on that lot later, but I just bring it up here to let you know that I am very mindful and keenly aware that we BTDers are challenged at every port of call, so to speak, yet for the most part, this diet is really the opposite of stressful to follow.  True, if one ate out a lot it would be very challenging, unless you happen to go to amazing, rare restaurants and/or restaurants at which you know just what to get, but even then, you can have something occur like the example I just gave *sigh*.  I really think the key is to eat homemade food for the most part.  When you do that, all you have to do is read labels and it becomes very relaxing and not just easy, but joyous to follow this diet.

I recently jettisoned all grains, which seems pretty draconian, yet I am having a blast with it, rediscovering all the colorful, chi-laden veggies and fruits that I can have instead.

It is all good!  


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I think the sprouted grain issue is still confusing, and I've been at this diet for a long time.  I finally just made it all simple and stopped eating anything with gluten, which included most of the sprouted breads anyway.  (Sprouting does NOT destroy gluten)

But, I'll tell you, I don't feel good when I eat sprouted avoid grains, gluten or not.  So I'm not sure what the final verdict on it is.  I know Dr. D gives a high value to Mana (Essene) bread and Ezekial, but also says to beware of avoids even if they're sprouted.  So, since they don't do my digestion any good anyway, I chose not to eat them at all.



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now for all you experts out there:
where is it stated that sprouted rye is ok for Bs?
I must have missed that part somewhere.......




My thought exact !!!
Rye bread ia an AVOID for us B'S unfortunately !!!!!


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I think the sprouted grain issue is still confusing, and I've been at this diet for a long time.  I finally just made it all simple and stopped eating anything with gluten, which included most of the sprouted breads anyway.  (Sprouting does NOT destroy gluten)

But, I'll tell you, I don't feel good when I eat sprouted avoid grains, gluten or not.  So I'm not sure what the final verdict on it is.  I know Dr. D gives a high value to Mana (Essene) bread and Ezekial, but also says to beware of avoids even if they're sprouted.  So, since they don't do my digestion any good anyway, I chose not to eat them at all.



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God bless ur strength !!!!


You're too kind!  

The truth is, I find the BTD very easy to follow.  What really took a lot of strength was suffering through so many years of pain before I found the BTD!  My life is a pleasure now, and that makes everything simple and sweet!  



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Yay, me too, Victoria!  Yesterday, I had this leftover organic chicken (look away, B's!) and sweet potato dish for lunch, and everyone was exclaiming, "Oh, that smells so good!" and not one but two people said, independently of each other, "What smells like Thanksgiving?"

I just thought to myself, as I often do, every day is Thanksgiving on the BTD.


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My thought exact !!!
Rye bread ia an AVOID for us B'S unfortunately !!!!!


With all due respect, I'll object to that. Peter wouldn't list essene/manna bread as beneficial for B's in all his books, health series included, in the typebase, without a statement saying "watch out if it's rye, it's an avoid!"

He repeatedly stressed upon the fact that the lectins are not destroyed in the lentils upon sprouting, but never uttered a similar statement about rye.

My conclusion: Rye manna is beneficial for B's.

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Dr. D gives a high value to Mana (Essene) bread and Ezekiel,....

true but he specifically states from compliant grains, and states only
wheat as turning ok lectin wise after the sprouting process.....
I never read a mention of rye being ok for Bs after sprouting, though.

so someone show me a quote where he says that, pls! )
or explicitly stated otherwise



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