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| janet_graham |
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Are these good for type O? Glucosamine, chondroitin, an/or msm? I have stiff joints at certain times of day and arthritis in my fingers on my left hand.....so? JayneO |
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| Tuesday, September 20, 2005, 12:46am |
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| Tuesday, September 20, 2005, 8:39am |
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Do not take chondroitin if you are an O it is very bad for us. Ask Dr D. He says it is like a bad blood transfusion and I can testify to that. If you want a real bad break out of thrush throughout take some chondroitin. I cant remember being so crook, just a few tablets set me back months of BTD good works. Cheers John. |
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Glucosamine, is ok for Os. chondroitin, is fine for As. msm, here s some great info from stephen: http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archive4/config.pl?read=2663
NAG works even better than glucosamine take bromelien for the inflammation eat ginger stay away from nightshade vegetables like tomotoes and peppers eat foods high in Omga 3's like beneficial fish and nuts like walnuts and flax seeds stay away from grains even more than usual |
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I tell type O friends that haven't had any benefit from glucosamine/chondroitin mixed supplements (and I don't know anyone that it has helped) to give glucosamine alone a try. The chondroitin would negate any benefit of the glucosamine. |
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| janet_graham |
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 12:09am |
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you can use chondroitin topically without worry |
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Mikeo, what do you mean? John. |
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| Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 1:41pm |
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yyrx  results of the tests O + celadrin not that bad because its a fatty acid yup  B + celadrin  havent had one to test it right now.....  AB and celadrin + - = not that good, but I tested it on myselve  and I know that as being a royal one  won't come out that positive....domage  = the royalty stand for the nonnie-status A + celadrine =  I'll give a try in the next few days... and let you know with several different bloodtypes and secretor stati-iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
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| Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 8:32pm |
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I have a question:
At the pharmacy where I work we were asked a lot about MSM and glucosamine at one time. According to our customers, they've heard you should take the two supplements together to ensure maximum absorbtion of the glucosamine.
MSM wasn't available (don't think it's approved by the Danish FDA - not sure) so we asked around what to do, and were told, that you only need to take MSM and glucosamine together, if the glucosamine isn't a sulphate. All our glucosamine-products at the pharmacy turned out to be glucosamine-sulphates of some sort, so the MSM wasn't necesary.
Is that true? You don't need MSM, when the glucosamine you take is some sort of sulphuric compound? |
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| ISA-MANUELA |
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yup Poly if its' named Glucosamine sulphate... so it is... but you may take MSM for some pains or itchy things and I think it is also for pulmonal support and it's ok for some skin problems,too- if I remember well  and dear pipnjohn....  you're a real sweety.... but please do let the chondroitin for us,the AB's... not all is a goody-goody for you  as being an O |
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Mikeo, what do you mean? John.
you can get chondroitin in a topical cream you rub into the area that is sore....it works and does not harm |
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would topical arnica be as effective? |
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you can get chondroitin in a topical cream you rub into the area that is sore....it works and does not harm
Thank you mikeo, I thought that must be what you meant. How come it doesn't do any harm? Is it because it's not digested? I was so sick from digesting chondroitin I never want to try it again. Cheers John.  Awaiting your reply to lola's question too, thanks to you both on that one. Hey, I just noticed, Isa called me a sweety! Thank you Isa I will print that out and place it under my pillow. |
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p-john gäärrrnääää aus der Fääärrrrnääää = yup ok  back but I must tell you all something a little strange....... I took also the chondroitin in larger amounts and for long time.... without any reaction on frozy's or aching muscles......and now since yesterday a little devil whispered:try MSM and NOTHING any more= but really all aching things gone... no stiffness in the morning... feel super great  yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaa yippers....yappers...yuppers who want to be firschddd to be hogtied? huuuhh?? didladadlududledödledeidlidüdlidoooooooooo and must be honest...without testing it |
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Some Arnica ssp. are more effective than others.
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| Thursday, September 22, 2005, 4:41pm |
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and now, around this time, there s the best absorbable iron content in collected rain water........is it only in the southern hemisphere? |
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[b][/b]First of all, what in the world is MSN?? I want some!!! I play tennis every day and I'm a distance runner. I used to be a vegetarian till I got on the BTD, so now I'm following not only the BTD , but the arthritis BTD, taking all the supplements and cutting out all the coffee, sugar.. etc. that upsets arthritis. I'm doing ok, but it's only been a couple of weeks. I'd sure like to know about the MSN stuff though.. is it a pill? where do you get it? Anyone out there who has tips for knee arthritis.. please let me know!! I NEED it... thanks.. Sheri |
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Hello fellow BTDr's. Today I bought a bottle of Kordel's (OptiMSM) USA. GLUCOSIMINE-MSM 1000 JOINT HEALTH FORMULA. INGREDIENTS:Glucosamine Sulphate.500mg MSM (MethylSulphonylMethane) 500mg Formulated without avoids. Take 1-4 capsules daily with meals. I will start with one. Everything else had Chondroitin in it. Is this what I should take for my joints and aches and pains? (60 capsules for $21:30) Cheers John.  |
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ooo jesses why didn't you looked into Natural Factors in Canadian line or US file...... they have all the best BTD compatible products...just great and not expensive at all!!! I'll take the sweety back......  and get ya on your ears.... hi-hi-hiiiiiii  chuckle  |
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Sorry ISA, you can not have the sweety back. I printed it out it's mine now.  Are they Webb sites that I should look at for BTD products? I would be happy buying at NAP but it is the exchange and freight costs that put me off. There are lots of products available out here but they are nearly all contaminated with some other unsuitable items or are inferior. Thank you for your help. John.  |
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