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wchestnut
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 1:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I recently became aware that I have candida/yeast after reading the candida spit test thread a few days ago.  I printed the entire thread-57 pages and became extremely overwhelmed with all of the great information.  I did the spit test and yes it was positive.  I am new to BTD-2 weeks now and have been staying compliant and not eating any avoids.  I must say I feel wonderful.  However now that I know that I have yeast how do I get rid of it.  I've seen many different suggestions including the candida diet and various different supplements.  I found threelac online and from reading the information it says that it's all you need to get rid of candida is that true?    

If I'm eating all the right things on BTD is the candida diet still recommended? I went to the yeasetinfectionadvisor website and also received great information, however there are several different roads to take to get rid of candida.

My 18 yr old daughter also had a positive spit test.

Any and all suggestions are welcome  

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increase consumption of olive oil
A lectin found in the root of the stinging nettle plant has been shown to aglutinate Candida albicans
Poyflora B...best protection against candida
thyme.organo and rosemary, coriander...use in cooking

oil of oregano (strong taste but it works!!!!!)

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I found some caprylic acid that I had purchased a little while back that I am starting
to take to get yeast levels down.  But after taking it last night and again this morning, I woke up with a whopping headache.  Is this the nasty die-off effect, sort
of feels like I am developing a cold......thanks for input....I know that staying compliant helps.  Also, would "deflect" help to detox this out?

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I definately would give deflect a try.


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I found a wonderful product called "Heallix" that wipes out yeast safely and naturally.  It is great for other ailments
also. to check it out go to http://www.heallix.com.  Along with BDT diet and tis product you will never have a yeast
infections again.
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tillman,
welcome!

thanks for the heads up on heallix.......quite a few have had great results using it, for various other reasons , also.

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Hi Tillman, welcome. I am intrigued by your experience with Heallix and would like to learn the details. I have been fighting Candida with Caprylates, Nettles, and Deflect and have noticed a great improvement over this past month, but I am not there yet! Yes, Paulam, I too had three or four days of feeling terrible when I started taking the Caprylates.

Now I hear, thanks Lola, that Heidi recommended Heallix as well. Soooo, do you mind giving us the gory details of what your symptoms were, Tillman,  and how long it took to get the Candida in check?
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yaman might give us some insight on Heallix, when he wakes up.)

I believe he s tried it.....


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Lola I heard you calling

I've used Heallix for tow months and now gave a break. Heallix helped in my case a lot. It cleared my brain fog within a couple of days, my energy returned and my spit test outcome was reduced to a few tendrils in around half an hour from huge tornados appearing instantly. I used Heallix in addition to the Yeast/fungus protocol for O's plus Threelac.

I gave a break for I am not sure about the risk of argyria in case of prolonged intake of silver.

I now replaced Heallix with mastic powder that dear Alek gave me. As far as the spit test is concerned, there is no negative difference yet. Still one tendril or a little cloudiness. So mastic powder can be an option for O's and B's.

Hope this helps,
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thanks for the report ,Yaman'cim! )


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Hallois yaman

Thanks for sharing your experience

I'm considering to place an order for heallix - but am curious about a couple of things..

Did you try it for any of the other uses like brushing etc?
And what do they mean to douche with it? Use it as soap or something, and is that the gel or the heallix itself?


Thanks


Suspecting: Crohn's (biospy, not 100%), Candida, wheat allergy/coeliac?, chronic sinusitis, fistulation :/, juvenile arthritis(?), milk intolerance...

Currently trying to fight the albicans kritters, but seems like a never-ending battle..
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Hi Glenn,

I have used it on several occasions. You can brush your teeth with it. Helps keep gums healthy. If you pour (douche) it on wounds, they heal faster, but now there is the gel form for that purpose..

I mostly used it when I had cold and/or fever. And lately against candida. It does work, I am only a bit concerned using silver because of the argyria risk. Other than that, it is great stuff.

Hope I answered your questions

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Thank you yaman

I seriously consider buying now..

How fast do you use up the gel pack thing?

Right now I'm thinking of ordering a quarter pack of the heallix and two packs of gel (guess one pack of gel should do, but I want to get above $100 so I don't have to pay the extra shipping cost ).. I presume a quarter should do for a first order, since one oz bottle really isn't enough to get going when we're suppose to use 4tsp per day.. and 1 gallon sounds like a lot?..


Suspecting: Crohn's (biospy, not 100%), Candida, wheat allergy/coeliac?, chronic sinusitis, fistulation :/, juvenile arthritis(?), milk intolerance...

Currently trying to fight the albicans kritters, but seems like a never-ending battle..
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...It does work, I am only a bit concerned using silver because of the argyria risk. Other than that, it is great stuff.


This is a risk from prolonged use right?

So using about a quarter to kick some candida expletive deleted shouldn't be a problem?

I've already put in an order for a quart gallon and two packs of gel.. Should be seeing it in my mailbox in 4-7 days


Thanks


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I must be missing something.  Looked over the heallix website and can't find what's in this stuff.  Anyone??
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From memory Heallix is ionized silver in a fulvic acid base solution.

From: http://www.heallix.com/faq.htm
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What does HEALlix contain?
      HEALlix contains distilled water, fulvic acid and 230ppm ionized silver.


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Been dealing with this candida for last 6 months and I can't believe I haven't heard of this.  I don't think it was ever even mentioned on that very very long candida thread from a couple of months ago. - So, you take Heallix in addition to any probiotics, enzymes, antifungals you're already doing. - Right?

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have you had any results with the protocols?
and have you been carb free most of the time?


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lola,  Yes, no question that my son has improved.  His diet has been anti candida compliant (no carbs) and blood type compliant for the most part.  But as he's improving he's also getting hungrier (his candida is in stomach/ small intestine and when he was at his worst he couldn't eat much at all because he always felt nauseaus - now we know it was an abundance of gas) he's looking to eat more satisfying things.  When "going off" a diet, it's been off the BTD before anti candida diet.  It's hard - he's only 13 and been doing this for almost 6 months. - He's been taking Candex and probiotics religiously - doing this for about 2 months.  Do you think the Heallix should be added?
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I would ask his dr first.......
he needs medical supervision if planning to add more sups to his protocol......


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What is argyria?



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I found this website when I googled Argyria...http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria.html

Hope this helps.
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Wow, thanks wchestnut.

It seems that this is a substance to be used with a lot of caution and moderation.

As for me, I think there are enough alternative candida treatments available.  Why mess around with adding metals to our bodies when so many of us are struggling to eliminate heavy metals from our systems?



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That's the way I feel too (worried about metal), but grateful others have shared their experience.  I keep trying different things, hope there is nothing bad about xylitol (I try to eat as much as the equivalent of the sugar I get in the very small amount of fruit I have added back--a few blueberries, for example).  I am down to a little tendril unless I have a meal in which someone "slips me" a forbidden food--then we get the tornado effect again.  (Yesterday, working lunch at a nice restraurant, I asked about contents of the crab cake: told crab, egg, celery, parsley.  Ate it, then waitress came back and said, "Oh yes, and flour.")  Got what you'd expect, now starting again, adding oil of oregano.  But it is overall definitely better, and I know the goal is balance, not destruction of every last representative of the species.
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