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san j
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Yay, I found the NEW THREAD button.
B's:  Get back to me on the subject of being a total anachronism, belatedly computer-illiterate, etc.  I'd like some company.


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i would love to answer but im afraid i dont get it lol.
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Oh honey, I can relate!!


Yes, I do have a love/hate relationship with technology, feeling like a throw back from some previous era...

But hey, you DID eventually find the new thread button! That is progress for a B!



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Well being a middle aged civil engineer, I couldn't entirely avoid the computer age. Email certainly speeds up communication in business, sometimes to much. Some people seem to shoot from the mouse so to speak. Also communication that is to easy can hinder some people from just making a feaking decision! But I use it for what I consider usefull. The same email to all participants greatly speeds up scheduling meetings and an email to some people makes it hard for them to deny they were informed about something. On a nonprofessional note forums are nice and digital music downloads for my iPod are great.
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yep-yep-yep

A2B = A2 is over under B or l'inverse.....

at the very early beginnings I was a little afraid to learn the computersystems... but I am
alltimes autodidact..... tipsl..tipsl..tipsl...

I love it to be connected to the whole world..... sitting at home and talking with everybody.... thats great... no? I f you remember- made some years.... a letter to Canada or Australia took weeks!!!! And now.... tipsl...tipsl..and whithin seconds you get your replies....
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I have this funny feeling about computers and tecnology in general:
I love being able to connect with people around me- BUT I really donīt care much for the tecnology- I just wanīt it to work!- I have somehow learned all just be trying/playing- At home I am a MAC user- It was really easy to learn- It alway tells be if I do something wrong and I can fix it without a help from some smart pc man
At work we use pc- well today they looks very much like a mac- but I still canīt fix it if it breaks down.....
All the hardcore mac users I know is B īs except for my mum who is a O- thinking like a B?????

I have just got a cel phone? (we call it a mobile phone)- I MUST be the last dane between 20-40- to get one!!- My daughter got one when she turned 10- and had to ride her bike in a rather isolated countryside- I wanted to be able to reach her- She LOVES it!- me - well sure it is nice to be able to call somebody if I break my leg in the middle of no where- but ..... I donīt really care for what it can do otherwise- I donīt bring it with me all the time- I like being in the garden/forest without being interupted by a phone- most people I know - never turns it off....


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Maria Giovanna
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This A understand perfectly you B friends;

when the PC doesn't work well I feel a stone age person with a will to setroy it, but I stop and try to fix it. Seldom I can do it and I am fond to have done it.
The cell phone is often embarassing and not in tune with  what we are doing but turning it off or using it with more polite mind could change it in the very smart intruments it is.
Have fun !
Maria Giovanna


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u2dan
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Oh speaking of Mobile/Cell phones. I am the only person i know who has NOT upgraded their phone! Everyone can make movies and take pictures and download music and I really don't care (although i will need a new one soon). It is so funny, my freiends make fun of my celly saying it is so old style! It is not as important to me anyways!  I do bring it everywhere and usually shut it off when at a restaurant or something.
Computers...i do think people should start using email more efficiently especially businesses. They aren't very good sometimes at utilizigin the quickness of email and website and it bothers me becasue sometimes i hate talking on my old style phone! I do have to say I am also the last person i know to ever own a laptop, i just got it last september an di love it.
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Yeah I haven't "upgraded" my cell phone yet either. I allready have a digital camera, all I want out of my cell phone is that it be rugged, have a lockable keyboard, and a vibratory ring since I often work next to loud machinery. It is also the only phone I use except for the old landline that I have hooked to a answering machine that plays but doesn't record for the companies that can't seem to understand the no in "no call".
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There's a new thread button?!   I don't want a laptop!  I love my desktop computer and I love ordering products from all over the nation.  My cell phone is old and is great for emergencies but I don't want people to bother me just to chat over one, just wait until I get home and can sit down with some red bush tea and chat then!    
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OK: I've got you all beat. I don't own a computer!! No cell phone either. And I don't have cable television, which is to say that I use my TV for watching videos about 20x a year (and I only have the TV because an old neighbor died and her granddaughter insisted I take it, in 1997) on the VCR (my first) I bought in about 1999 -- just in time for the DVD revolution! I do have an answering machine which is essential for business.  I use a computer regularly as of 18 months ago, but it's at the cafe a few blocks away from home.
But my home library contains thousands upon thousands of books, stacked and spilling everywhere! And I've read them in whole or in part.
I have to admit that since using the computer it does come in handy for keeping in touch with friends and family who have very little to do with anyone or anything that doesn't come through cyberspace.  I surf around and discover cool things, and one of these days I'll cave and buy a computer.  
I decided years ago that I'd buy one when they'd be light and thin and notebook size (this was then a fantasy) easily portable and less than $500 brand spanking new complete with service contract, etc.  We're almost there
As for the cell phone, I, too envisioned, when we heard there would one day be such a gizmo, a Brave New World nightmare. "Why would anyone want to be so enslaved?" I wondered.  And now, here in the city, everywhere you look, people are yakking away, obnoxious rings are going off, while I can be engrossed in LIFE, thank you very much.
As for the homefront, I have one phone.  It's the desktop plug-in kind.  Initially I rented it from New England Bell when I was at University there about 30 years ago.
It had two "extra" buttons on it, never seen before.  Today we call them "star" and "pound".  We wondered what they were for; the phone company told us that one day they would be used for "picture phones" and other sci-fi sorts of things. That's my telephone.  It's made the way things were made then.
So, other B's like to read and travel and learn new languages and live life "hands-on" and cook and do things the old fashioned way, huh?.


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exj_j,

You reminded me a story that I like a lot.

There once was a traveller who came into a town and started looking for a shelter. A man saw him and said he could spend the night at his place if he needed one..

When they entered the man's house, the traveller realized that there were nothing but the piles of books.

The traveller asked the man: "Where is your furniture?"

The man answered: "Where are yours"

Traveller: "I'm a traveller passing by"

The man: "So am I"

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Pleased to meet you

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Could someone tell this computer-inept B how to locate a thread that doesn't come up under "recent threads"? I'm wasting so much time looking for recent threads that aren't, apparently, recent enough to make it to the top 20 or how ever many have been added to in the past day or less.
Thanks!
And Thanks Yaman for the cool joke.
There's another one about Sagittarians ( or those with that sign prominent in their charts): A Sagittarian moves house when the dishes pile up too high.  I suspect we world traveling B's can relate as well.


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[color=blue][/color]I'm a new member, a B, but I don't know my secretor status. I think I fit in here. Last year when I was substitute teaching in an English class, I explained to an honors student how I couldn't download the lastest Outkast video because I have AOL 6.0 and Windows 95. His eyes got wide.  I went on to tell him that I didn't have cable TV, nor did I have call waiting, caller ID, voice mail, a VCR, a DVD player OR a microwave...or a stove (I do have an answering machine, a one-burner hotplate and a convection oven). The kid threw his head back and howled with laughter.  He said, "Miss, you're like Thoreau on Walden Pond!"  It was a great line, and I liked the comparison.  
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I love you B's, but you're not the only ones.  My AB and I only have TV because the family gave it to us after his grandmother died (we were in our late 30s).  So we got a vcr.  No cable, no cell phone, no call waiting, etc.  We only have a computer because  his father insisted we take his old one, and it's only updated because my brother is a techie who loves fiddling with my computer. But as an aquarius O, I do enjoy it. Sometimes too much.  And our cars are 15 years old with 220k+ miles on them.  As you Bs know so well, there's lots more to life than working and spending!


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Meltoast,
well you made it all the way down here!!!
welcome!!!

you will find your avatar-(top right hand corner of this page )at the 'member center'......
..it will be easier for
all of us to know your type at a glance!  ty


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oh these computers,
how I miss the times that my genes tell me of,
when we Bs hiked on the tundra with our goat,
endless hours of talking and playing musics by the evening fires,
all the time,
all the space,
and now wheres my tribe?
around the globe!
and too often to connect I have to sit in front of some strange machine,
or use a mobile phone,
oh no,

give me back my nomad days
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Oh my forget about hiking with the goat! I am EATING the darn goat (aww poor thing)

I just remembered somethign else, i hate looking like evryone else. I hate buying clothes that a large number of people could own so i usually try to stay away from trendy stores since the second i buy something i  see a hundred others wearing it and i hate it therefore if possible i avoid the trendy name brand stores.

Also are other B's not picky about food? I am the only person i know who likes pretty much everything, and there are too many around me who wont eat the cake if the frosting was put on it from a spoon instead of a knife (you know, dumb things like that!)
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my A2B 3cents- yeehhaaa meee too!!!
Best is to be as saucey as you can in restaurant....hi-hi-hiiiii so I am looking sometimes and the waiter is the poorest of the whole earth
dany try a forch...... but the stick you must put into the cake.....
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U2Dan, I constantly amaze people with the variety of things I consider edible(and of course with the avoids on the BTD). Everybody knows to ask me what something is if I give them something to eat, I think the jalapeno and thai pepper laced brownies had something to do with it. Don't knock it they are great. Being an avid organic gardener also gives me a greater range of raw ingredients. The only thing I rejected as a kid was rutabagas and I'm not to thrilled about lima beans.
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Ha ha, this is a good one.
I use word on my pc and the internet. Thats it. My cell phone was a gift from my dad; I use it to text people and to call people. I have no idea what it can do. Apparantly a lot.
Mu husband has shown me about 20 times how to use his Playstation to watch a DVD. still clueless.
When people start talking technical stuff, my eyes glaze over and my brain goes fishing.

BUT, put me in a book store, and I get supercharged and get maniacal. I love scented candles, and incense and pictures and creative things. But if it has a switch, I do not want to know.

As for clothes - ha ha, Dan, I buy and wear what I like, not whats in fashion. I will buy the same boots in three different colours (yes, Ihave done this), but wont buy something in fashion if I dont think it suits me.
I also went last week and cut off all my hair. It is now all feathered and very very short and everyone wants to know why!

Even when I got married last year - the tradition here is to invite as many people as you know and to have a huge family wedding - we are talking 2 000 people. I had 18 people at my wedding....

My life motto is "because I can".
I think that must be a B-plan. Because we can.
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Oh Dee - I love your motto!

Iīm the same with books, plants, kids, and animals- and yes I had this weird attraction of: normads even before I read about BTD - wanted so much to ride on horseback under the mongolian sky....my friends thinks Iīm nuts and my family thinks that I read to much- dream to much- except my sis who is a fellow B.

The clothes: I am the same- my kid thinks that I am a fasion disaster- not that I donīt like nice clothes- but  I want something that suits me..
I have only got wellies(rubberboots), nice winterboots, practical sandals and a nice pair of ECCO trainers- why should I need more shoes?- my girlfriends thinks that it weird....
BUT look at my shelves: I canīt give up buying books- and I have just inherited a lot of books from my dad- old friends -you donīt throw away !

Food- well both my sister and I are interested in food- loves to cook different food or unusual food or grow weird things like carrots in rainbowcolours or beets in yellow white striped....
- but WE want QUality- the supermarket thinks I am really picky- I know what I want- I donīt just buy things.

I always thought that it was my LEO part that made me crave individuality but maybe it is the B in me that makes me wanting to be "alone" in a group of friends?


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The books, the books, the books...yes seems to be a theme.

For many years now I have viewed my library card as my most prized possession. I wouldn't be able to live my life as I know it without that wonderful library and all those books...

But here's another one that I suspect is a B thing. In order for a meal to be fully appetizing it MUST contain the full color spectrum. I need all colors on my plate, and  preferably in varying hues... a visual feast for the eyes to whet the palate.

And Gulfcoastguy... LOVE jalapenos in desserts! Try some in apple pie sometime - so wonderful!!



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I can't tell you how gratified I am that I started this thread!!
Yes, the BOOKS: And since I live in a small place, I'm constantly (and I've only succumbed to it lately, by necessity) sorting and hauling bags of 'em off to the charitable orgs. and, when suitable, used book shops, to make space for things like sitting down, navigating the hallway, etc. not to mention MORE BOOKS!
I grew up in a nuclear family in which I was the only B. And books aren't the only major issue, as you can imagine.  
I have a whole data bank of subjects other than books and technology, in a manila folder, of course!
Is the group ready to talk RELIGION?
I have to run right now, but consider the gauntlet to have been thrown down, and let's touch upon: CONVERSION, if we dare.
I don't know about y'all, but this thread may just turn out to be Home Base.


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Is loving books a sign of being a B? If so, my dad would win hands down!! (don't know what he is and he won't make any changes to his diet unless told by doctor). I love reading too as does my mum (B)(when she has time) and one of my sisters (B). My youngest sister (tried to do the Blood Test on her at home but not sure whether it means she's a B or an O even though did it twice - B would be better as she's a vegetarian although recently started to eat fish - I gave her some of my Deflect once and it did help her) - anyway, she's like a totally different generation - well into mobile phones, dvds, sky tv etc and loves to shop for clothes - they're essential to her, whereas they're useful to me (and I have the feeling there's more to life). Anyway, apart from my dad, we're all into "weird" stuff - my sister is into Reiki, I do tarot, even my neice is psychic (at the age of (she loves meat - poss O?). I used to go to church every Sunday but grew out of it (too much pressure to  conform

Bs rule !!!!


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