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chantal
Friday, August 8, 2014, 6:36am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi there, I havent used this forum before but I have quite a few questions for my Swami diet, 1st Question Is this where I start?
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chantal
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can explorers drink Beet Kvass?
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Hi Chantal,

did you get the software for Swami?
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Hi Chantal,

A little more information about you will help us in answering your questions.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/
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Yes this might be the place... but first: How did you come to SWAMI?  What else did you do before, and why are you looking for info on food?  At first we have many questions like what type are you- did you do BTD first? ........answers will come fast...  welcome, it's the neubies that are coming to the right place.



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Lloyd
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Quoted from chantal
Hi there, I havent used this forum before but I have quite a few questions for my Swami diet, 1st Question Is this where I start?


It is a great place to ask SWAMI questions.

Welcome.
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deblynn3
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welcome. Your at the right place.


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Spring
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Quoted from chantal
can explorers drink Beet Kvass?


Wish I knew the answer, but it does sound wonderful! Sugar beet syrup is not on my SWAMI, unless it would be considered molasses, but I enjoy it now and then. Beet juice IS on my diet, and I can certainly have salt and water, so I would think I could enjoy Beet Kvass! As you can see I am an Explorer A-Type.


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KimonoKat
Friday, August 8, 2014, 2:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Please go to your Member Center (link at the top) and add helpful information to your profile, such as your blood type and any other information about your blood type that you know/input into your SWAMI.

Welcome!


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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YogurtQueen
Tuesday, November 4, 2014, 4:30pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I'm new here.  Just inputted everything into SWAMI Express and came out as an Explorer.  I do not know my PROP taster or secretor status, and inputting each of those variables as one or the other, I still came out as an Explorer and my food list did not change based on either of those variables.  So, I'm solidly an Explorer - and predicted I would be, based on the description of the genotype.

I decided to finally invest in SWAMI after playing with this genotype diet thing a couple years ago and not sticking with it because I felt unconvinced that things like black pepper, vinegar, sweet potatoes and coconut oil could possibly be bad for me!

I've been gluten free for most of the last ten years and eat a super "clean," whole foods diet, but still struggled with adrenal insufficiency and low progesterone.  "Biohacking," "trying paleo again" and the Weston A. Price diet left me feeling so frustrated.  It made no sense that I felt awesome on a bowl of air-popped popcorn tossed with olive oil and sea salt (neolithic, evil grains! OMG what a rebel!!) but felt like cr@p after eating a steak.  I also used to wake up with a stuffy head after eating one of my favorite meals, an iceberg wedge salad with blue cheese, tomatoes and bacon.  Other than the lettuce, these are avoid foods...

So, I finally SWAMI'd and am generally pleased that rice, pecans, eggs and turkey are power foods for me, as well as yogurt, parmesan, feta.  I do think it is weird that lamb and mutton are the only red meats that are OK.  I guess ostrich is a fine substitute for beef, although it is expensive.

I'm bummed that olives are a no-no.

To replace my one morning cup of coffee (I am one of those people who can't have any caffeine after noon or it will keep me up) what about yerba mate?  

Have any of you noticed improvement in adrenal issues?

What does BONE SOUP (ALLOWABLE MEATS) in the avoid list mean?  That bone broth made from lamb or turkey is OK, or worse than bone broth made from beef or chicken?

Sorry so many wide-ranging questions.


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Lloyd
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Quoted from YogurtQueen

To replace my one morning cup of coffee (I am one of those people who can't have any caffeine after noon or it will keep me up) what about yerba mate?  

Have any of you noticed improvement in adrenal issues?

What does BONE SOUP (ALLOWABLE MEATS) in the avoid list mean?  That bone broth made from lamb or turkey is OK, or worse than bone broth made from beef or chicken?

Sorry so many wide-ranging questions.


Welcome.

Yerba might bother you as well. There is some argument that it is a different xanthine than caffeine but the point may be moot.

Yes, use bones from the meats you are allowed to make the soup.

EDIT: Yes, Ruthie is correct, being in the avoid column makes it an avoid. The listing is for bones from allowable meats.

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YogurtQueen
Tuesday, November 4, 2014, 4:43pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Thank you Lloyd - lamb bone broth and turkey bone broth will be great for making risotto now that I have complete permission to eat rice without guilt....

Forgot to ask about marrow.  Marrow soup is listed as a neutral food.  Does that mean any marrow?  Beef marrow bones are easier to find than lamb marrow bones. Obviously lamb would be better.


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ruthiegirl
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Bone soup from non-allowed meats is an avoid no matter what. Bone soup from allowed meats has a different rating than the meats themselves. For me, it's a beneficial food- meaning that soup made from neutral chicken bones is the same "beneficial rating" as soup made from beneficial turkey bones.

For you, however, there's something in the bone broth that's just not good for you- in spite of the great nutritional benefits of bone broth. You need to seek elsewhere for your minerals- such as allowable greens in large quantities (including things like green juices and super-strong herbal teas.)

I would assume that "marrow soup" would mean any kind of marrow. I'm not quite sure how you'd make that and not accidentally turn it into the avoid "bone  broth."

Beet kvass has not been rated by Dr D. Many people do just fine with eating/drinking home ferments from compliant vegetables. A few individuals find that there's something in the ferments that bothers them (and since it may be the same "natural chemical" as found in bone broths, I'm not sure what that would mean for you personally.)

How do beets rate for you? How do sauerkraut and pickles in brine rate for you?


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Jane
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I seem to remember that bone broth even from non allowed meats is OK.  Does anyone else remember that from something Dr. D said years ago?  I only remembered it because I thought it was odd.
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I presumed marrow soup was soup made from marrow bones instead of bones in general. If dealing with a butcher, you should be able to ask for beef marrow bones specifically. If dealing with a supermarket, you may only be able to get soup bones, which probably have marrow bones mixed with other bones.

It may be that to make marrow soup one is supposed to remove the marrow out of the bones and just cook it with the marrow (Have the butcher pipe cut the bones so you can pop the marrow out).

I looked in SWAMI GenoType and it appeared to me as if the data for marrow soup was based on caribou marrow, but I do not see anything in SWAMI stating marrow needs to be from caribou.


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YogurtQueen
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Thank you for all the help.  Roasted marrow is easy to make.  Just throw the marrow bones in the oven and roast them - then save the cooked marrow in a jar in the fridge and discard the bones.  It is delicious on (rice flour) gluten free toast.  

That's ok, right?  If marrow soup is marrow + water, then straight up marrow is ok for me?  

I will just start roasting only lamb marrow bones instead of beef.  Seems like beef marrow soup without bones is OK, though?

Also, my dentist told me today that I have one carabelli cusp - yes, on just one side - which he said was unusual.. to have it on only one side.  So I entered it in the Swami as "present" and I still come out as an Explorer, which didn't change my food list either.

I picked up some Milk Thistle, glutathione, L-phenylalanine and artichoke leaf supplements today.  They all muscle-tested well.

Looking forward to trying out the recipes, and glad that goat cheese is on the menu.

I'm really hoping that since I've tried everything else that this Explorer diet works for me and helps me from having those unexpected, sudden periodic dips in my adrenal function. The Explorer description makes a lot of sense so far - perhaps there is something for a metabolic oddball like me after all!


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Seraffa
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Quoted from Jane
I seem to remember that bone broth even from non allowed meats is OK.  Does anyone else remember that from something Dr. D said years ago?  I only remembered it because I thought it was odd.


MY SWAMI SAID FROM ALLOWABLE MEATS ONLY
Ahhh, but O's have such a large scope for this  
I don't think the old book would apply today; but if a person were to only follow the Genotype Diet then Explorers would have the freest rein regarding bone marrows.

There's such a toxic load that goes into grain-raised marrows that people who do NOT know the BTD or GTD are eating to their own sickness instead of health these days. I tried to tell that to a couple of guys at a meat store who ordered split bones once and they just smiled and laughed and took the bones to the cash register, because they were too fixated on making marrow soup because of what their friends had told them....very stupid.


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YogurtQueen
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MY SWAMI SAID FROM ALLOWABLE MEATS ONLY
Ahhh, but O's have such a large scope for this  
I don't think the old book would apply today; but if a person were to only follow the Genotype Diet then Explorers would have the freest rein regarding bone marrows.


I'll stick with lamb for now and see how that goes....

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There's such a toxic load that goes into grain-raised marrows that people who do NOT know the BTD or GTD are eating to their own sickness instead of health these days. I tried to tell that to a couple of guys at a meat store who ordered split bones once and they just smiled and laughed and took the bones to the cash register, because they were too fixated on making marrow soup because of what their friends had told them....very stupid.


EEEEK! That's like saying "I'll buy a non-organic fruit and eat only the peel so I can get the most potent dose of chemicals." Awesome.


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SquarePeg
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Welcome, YQ!  Your background sounds really interesting!

I struggle with adrenal insufficiency and low progesterone, too.  I've not tried to give up coffee with any seriousness -- there's just no substitute.  Besides I'm not sensitive.  I can drink a cup 1/2 before bedtime and still fall asleep.  But I suspect it alters my sleep pattern, and I'd have to interrupt my sleep to get up to pee.

For a while I would combine green tea and Yerba mate (plus mint leaves from the garden, carob powder and ghee), but it took nearly as long to make the tea as it did to make breakfast.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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YogurtQueen
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Welcome, YQ!  Your background sounds really interesting!

I struggle with adrenal insufficiency and low progesterone, too.  I've not tried to give up coffee with any seriousness -- there's just no substitute.  Besides I'm not sensitive.  I can drink a cup 1/2 before bedtime and still fall asleep.  But I suspect it alters my sleep pattern, and I'd have to interrupt my sleep to get up to pee.


I really notice caffeine makes me feel bad over time, especially if I'm getting it from mass-produced sources like hotel conference rooms or Starbuck's.

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For a while I would combine green tea and Yerba mate (plus mint leaves from the garden, carob powder and ghee), but it took nearly as long to make the tea as it did to make breakfast.


That sounds like a great recipe.  

I saw in the avatar that you have a percentage figure.  What is that about?  My SWAMI did not give me that.




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YogurtQueen
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A few more assorted questions.  If someone can just link me to a bunch of useful threads, rather than reinventing the wheel here, that would be great.

How to live without vanilla?  Harmless, plain vanilla?!?

And black pepper?  Can I buy white, green, or pink peppercorns and store them in a grinder?

How are papadams (made with garbanzo bean flour) a diamond food, but chickpeas/garbanzos are an avoid? Best hummus recipe that doesn't use garbanzos?

Geno harmonic foods: how tailored are these to you individually vs stock recommendations for your blood type or genotype? Why are some of the leading foods neutrals on my list?

Thank you very much.


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A few more assorted questions.  If someone can just link me to a bunch of useful threads, rather than reinventing the wheel here, that would be great.

Thank you very much.


May I suggest you take advantage of the search feature? Once you learn the quirks it can be quite valuable for finding the type of information you seek.
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A few more assorted questions.  If someone can just link me to a bunch of useful threads, rather than reinventing the wheel here, that would be great.

I ditto Lloyd, in getting familiar with the search feature.
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How to live without vanilla?  Harmless, plain vanilla?!?

Try replacing it with lemon extract. Not exactly the same, but a way to transition.
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And black pepper?  Can I buy white, green, or pink peppercorns and store them in a grinder?

Look to TYPEBASE, for the main reasons why a food is an avoid for your type.
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How are papadams (made with garbanzo bean flour) a diamond food, but chickpeas/garbanzos are an avoid? Best hummus recipe that doesn't use garbanzos?

I'm sorry I don't have an answer for this one.
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Geno harmonic foods: how tailored are these to you individually vs stock recommendations for your blood type or genotype? Why are some of the leading foods neutrals on my list?

Thank you very much.

One of the more senior members might be able to explain harmonic foods, but my best understanding is, eating them in combination equals a better benefit. The combination, does positive things.

Sharing with the best of intentions.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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