Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register


Main Forum Page  ♦   Latest Posts  ♦   Member Center  ♦   Search  ♦   Archives   ♦   Help   ♦   Log In/Out   ♦   Admins
Forum Login
Login Name: Create a new account
Password:     Forgot password

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    SWAMI Xpress  ›  Goat Cheese
Users Browsing Forum
Plum and 8 Guests

Goat Cheese  This thread currently has 400 views. Print Print Thread
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
ebla
Saturday, January 18, 2014, 8:12am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Spring: Growth, Peace.
Posts: 46
Gender: Male
Location: Italy
Age: 30
Hi all,

I just completed my SWAMI and have all the results. However, I cannot find goat cheese, which is something I usually have. I see that cheese is all over the place in my SWAMI, so difficult to infer..
Here (http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?121) it says neutral for my blood type. But is it??

Thanks
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message
Munchkin76
Saturday, January 18, 2014, 8:37am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami: Hunter (66%) / RH- / ENFJ / Libra-Dragon
Ee Dan
Posts: 818
Gender: Male
Location: Colchester, UK
Age: 37
Hi Ebla,

My Swami does not mention goats cheese specifically either. However, in the dairy section I have 'Milk, Goat'. I have, therefore, assumed that goats cheese has the same rating (avoid in my case  ).

If someone else on the boards knows better or has a differing opinion I'd be grateful to hear it. Till then though, I'm treating the cheese as per the milk rating.

All the best

Andy


Listen to all, plucking a feather from every passing goose, but follow no one absolutely. CHINESE PROVERB

Andy Pandy��


Logged Offline
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 1 - 12
BluesSinger
Saturday, January 18, 2014, 5:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Following HUNTER
Ee Dan
Posts: 821
Gender: Female
Location: Grants Pass, OR
Age: 55
Quoted from Munchkin76
Hi Ebla,

My Swami does not mention goats cheese specifically either. However, in the dairy section I have 'Milk, Goat'. I have, therefore, assumed that goats cheese has the same rating (avoid in my case  ).

If someone else on the boards knows better or has a differing opinion I'd be grateful to hear it. Till then though, I'm treating the cheese as per the milk rating.

All the best

Andy



well same here but I would not assume that the cheese is an avoid since I have many cheeses made from cow's milk that are beneficial and neutral and test Milk, Cow is listed as an avoid.

so now i treat it as a neutral.  

speaking of which, i think one could add a little compliant sweetener to say the sour edge off and this could be a close call to cream cheese!


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 2 - 12
ruthiegirl
Sunday, January 19, 2014, 8:57pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI O+ Gatherer, Healing from Fibromyalgia
Kyosha Nim
Columnists and Bloggers
Posts: 12,188
Gender: Female
Location: New York
Age: 42
I don't understand why goat cheese was evaluated for BTD but then not included in GTD or SWAMI.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 3 - 12
ginnyTN
Sunday, January 19, 2014, 10:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

76 and still going
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 428
Gender: Female
Location: mid south USA
Quoted from ruthiegirl
I don't understand why goat cheese was evaluated for BTD but then not included in GTD or SWAMI.


Agree!  I used goat cheese for everything I used to make with cow cream cheese, even cheesecake!  I know a huge number of us would appreciate it greatly if the goat cheese were evaluated for the SWAMI results!  

(That would be just one more thing for which to be eternally grateful to Dr. D)



6 years on ER BTD, went from sick and dying to healthier And 30 pounds slimmer.  

Dec 2013: Started Swami Xpress - I'm 48% Explorer with hybridized Explorer/BTD list. A new adventure for this old lady!  -- LOST 5 more pounds on SWAMI! 
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 4 - 12
BluesSinger
Sunday, January 19, 2014, 10:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Following HUNTER
Ee Dan
Posts: 821
Gender: Female
Location: Grants Pass, OR
Age: 55
Quoted from ginnyTN


Agree!  I used goat cheese for everything I used to make with cow cream cheese, even cheesecake!  I know a huge number of us would appreciate it greatly if the goat cheese were evaluated for the SWAMI results!  

(That would be just one more thing for which to be eternally grateful to Dr. D)



Yay!!! It's neutral for me on the ER4YT Type Base!!!  

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?121

I hope it doesn't change!  

Now I have to think about what I would use it for... maybe  on a baked sweet potato with green onions!?  Oh the memories are coming back!  ha ha.. I just have to be careful about how much.  

Revision History (2 edits)
BluesSinger  -  Sunday, January 19, 2014, 11:16pm
BluesSinger  -  Sunday, January 19, 2014, 11:15pm
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 5 - 12
ruthiegirl
Sunday, January 19, 2014, 11:55pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI O+ Gatherer, Healing from Fibromyalgia
Kyosha Nim
Columnists and Bloggers
Posts: 12,188
Gender: Female
Location: New York
Age: 42
It's an "avoid" for O nonnies, but I'm not sure which of the cheeses on SWAMI it's closest to. If it's like quark, then it would be a diamond. If it's like farmer's cheese, then it's an avoid.

Pre-BTD, I discovered my problem with cow's milk dairy, and at that time found I did fine on goat milk products of any type- even ultra-pasteurized non-cultured whole  goat milk, but also goat cheese, yogurt, and kefir. I avoid those foods now because SWAMI says to (and overall I feel better on SWAMI than I did pre-SWAMI, even if I can't trace symptoms to every single food I avoid.) However, if I'm going to "cheat" and have some cheese once in a while, I'll make it  goat cheese.

This winter, I've been having a lot of congestion issues, so I'm sticking with ghee and butter as my only dairy.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 6 - 12
Mrs T O+
Monday, January 20, 2014, 2:40am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Concealed Carry Gatherer! SWAMI Explorer Blend
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,207
Gender: Female
Location: Chicago, Illinois
I heard that 20% of those who are allergic to milk can have goat milk.  I still think one should partake of it in moderation.


Interested in nutrition, lactation, religion, politics; love to be around people; talkative, sensitive, goofy; a "fishy Christian" ><>; left-handed; lived on a farm, small town & big city; love BTD/GTD; A staunch La Leche League veteran; b. 10/1947 Check BTD/GTD on facebook!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 7 - 12
yaeli
Monday, January 20, 2014, 5:58am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI Gatherer / Taster / ISFJ
Ee Dan
Posts: 2,547
Gender: Female
Location: Yerushalayim, Israel
Age: 66
I cannot tolerate cow's milk dairy, haven't been able for decades.  I can tolerate better goat & sheep milk dairy, although recently I've realized that in order to let my gut heal I must cut dairy altogether. Milk & yogurt - any milk and yogurt - have been avoids for me since day one of BTD, but I did fine on goat compliant cheeses. When SWAMI came along, I started to choose the goat milk version of the superfood/diamond cheeses allocated for me. For example, I kept eating goat cottage cheese, goat gouda (neutral), goat & sheep manchego (neutral), and goat & sheep pecorino. The thing is, that also in the superfood hard cheeses, the bacteria used for fermentation vary considerably from dairy to dairy, and some cultures are extremely difficult for me to digest. So, by trial and error I had learnt which brand exactly I could tolerate. But as I said above, when I realized that cheeses were actually an obstruction in healing my GI tract, I decided to give them up altogether - exactly like Dr. D wrote in Eat Right for Your Type.


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 8 - 12
BluesSinger
Monday, January 20, 2014, 3:00pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Following HUNTER
Ee Dan
Posts: 821
Gender: Female
Location: Grants Pass, OR
Age: 55
Quoted from yaeli
I cannot tolerate cow's milk dairy, haven't been able for decades.  I can tolerate better goat & sheep milk dairy, although recently I've realized that in order to let my gut heal I must cut dairy altogether. Milk & yogurt - any milk and yogurt - have been avoids for me since day one of BTD, but I did fine on goat compliant cheeses. When SWAMI came along, I started to choose the goat milk version of the superfood/diamond cheeses allocated for me. For example, I kept eating goat cottage cheese, goat gouda (neutral), goat & sheep manchego (neutral), and goat & sheep pecorino. The thing is, that also in the superfood hard cheeses, the bacteria used for fermentation vary considerably from dairy to dairy, and some cultures are extremely difficult for me to digest. So, by trial and error I had learnt which brand exactly I could tolerate. But as I said above, when I realized that cheeses were actually an obstruction in healing my GI tract, I decided to give them up altogether - exactly like Dr. D wrote in Eat Right for Your Type.


Well I might not be able to indulge in the goat cheese then since my gut is so messed up right now.  I have some in the fridge.. I'll have to try a bit each week to see.   I only get 3-4 ozs three times a week  anyway.. so that's not much.  It's certainly NOT a piece of cheesecake!  ha ha..
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 9 - 12
Munchkin76
Monday, January 20, 2014, 3:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami: Hunter (66%) / RH- / ENFJ / Libra-Dragon
Ee Dan
Posts: 818
Gender: Male
Location: Colchester, UK
Age: 37
Quoted from BluesSinger



well same here but I would not assume that the cheese is an avoid since I have many cheeses made from cow's milk that are beneficial and neutral and test Milk, Cow is listed as an avoid.

so now i treat it as a neutral.  

speaking of which, i think one could add a little compliant sweetener to say the sour edge off and this could be a close call to cream cheese!




Good point, actually mine is the same. Yay! Maybe I'll give some chèvre a try and see if there's any fallout. Still likely to be an ocassional/treat food for me in any case as I get so many other higher rated options to choose from.


Listen to all, plucking a feather from every passing goose, but follow no one absolutely. CHINESE PROVERB

Andy Pandy��


Logged Offline
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 10 - 12
Xuxuzinha
Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 10:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Explorer
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 178
Gender: Female
Location: London, UK
Isn't anything not included in Swami to be treated as neutral?
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 11 - 12
BluesSinger
Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 5:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Following HUNTER
Ee Dan
Posts: 821
Gender: Female
Location: Grants Pass, OR
Age: 55
Quoted from Xuxuzinha
Isn't anything not included in Swami to be treated as neutral?


yup
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 12 - 12
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
Print Print Thread

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    SWAMI Xpress  ›  Goat Cheese

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread