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battle dwarf
Friday, January 3, 2014, 7:06pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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their are several meds that sheep feed can have in it. it is why i only buy goat feed and not 'sheep and goat' for my goats in winter. if i want to medicate my animals i want to controle iit myself not just have them feed on it all the time. asking your farmer is the only way. another place to ask is the local co-op feed store near you because they will know people who buy specialty feeds like lamb, goat, rabbit, ect and often have bullition boards of advertisments from local farmers for livestock for sale. i know there is one here that raises short hair sheep i would like to contact one of these days


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All of the above mentioned meat sources look good, but first do a search for something local. I just googled "Maryland pasture raised beef" and found a source that I can actually drive to. Saves $$$ shipping and supports a local farmer. A little sleuthing will be necessary to insure organic, etc., but it seems these kind of operations are becoming a bit more common.

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Quoted from aussielady582
I'm not sure why you feel you need red meat


aussielady,

My SWAMI Xpress specifically says:  RED meat:  4 ounces; 3 times per week.  The meats I have listed on my Swami printout for me to eat are:  Goat, lamb, mutton, rabbit.

I have eaten practically no red meat at all for almost 6 years because I was following the BTD for A nonnies.  

According to my Swami results I need some red meat in my diet.  

At NO TIME has my medical doctor TOLD ME I have to eat meat. He suggested I consume more protein. He does not give me nutrition advice because I know way more about food and nutrition than he does and we understand each other very well.  

It will be interesting to see how my body reacts to this almost "alien" food when I am finally able to find any red meat to eat.  

I just spent good money to have this Swami done.  I am going to follow it at least for a few months.  I will not play around with it because if I do I will never know if it is right for me or not!!!!!!



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Quoted from Averno

All of the above mentioned meat sources look good, but first do a search for something local. I just googled "Maryland pasture raised beef" and found a source that I can actually drive to. Saves $$$ shipping and supports a local farmer. A little sleuthing will be necessary to insure organic, etc., but it seems these kind of operations are becoming a bit more common.


Thanks, Averno.  There is one farmer in our area who I used to buy whole lambs from years ago - before I went on the ER diet.  I need to find out if he still raises them and what kind of supplemental feed they get besides pasture grass.

There is also a certified organic farm in our area that raises lamb but their prices are terribly high.  Am going to check out the older farmer - but it would still mean waiting  months until this year's babies are ready for slaughter.  But at least I would then have a good supply of one of the 4 red meats on my Swami list.

Until then I might have to pay an arm and a leg for some goat meat.  The shipping is more expensive than the meat!!!




6 years on ER BTD, went from sick and dying to healthier And 30 pounds slimmer.  

Dec 2013: Started Swami Xpress - I'm 48% Explorer with hybridized Explorer/BTD list. A new adventure for this old lady!  -- LOST 5 more pounds on SWAMI! 
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Quoted from C_Sharp

I really like Ostrich and I used to buy it in health food stores. But you can also buy it direct.

I do not know where you are in Tennessee, but in case this is close:

Tennessee Ostrich Company, 2026 Bundren Mountain Road, Tazewell, TN, 37879



thank you - I thought Tazewell was way farther away from us than it is.  It looks like we could possibly drive there in maybe a little over 2 hours.  That would be a punishing trip for us because of my back and my husband's really bad knee - but I'm going to phone them and see what the deal is.  

With all of the helpful suggestions here I feel confident that I'll find what I need "somewhere" - hopefully within the next week or two.  



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if you get a whole one butchered you can average 50lb of meat. that is what I normaly get off a yearling goat and it lasts me aprox 5 to six months if I am not living on it exclusively for my red meat. this will depend on breed and they way you have it butchered of course.
oh and "lamb" can be up to two years old so you may still be able to find one at the farmers. I like to wait a year for optimum size myself after that they are harder to skin out.


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Thank you for that information, battle dwarf!

I just realized (brain is old and slow these days) that I can phone the local slaughter house and ask them for a list of local farmers who raise lambs and/or goats for meat!  Since they are the only local slaughter house they should be able to give me some good information.  THEN it will be a matter of finding out what these critters are being fed.  

At least I feel like I'm on the right track now.  


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Quoted from Averno

A little sleuthing will be necessary to insure organic, etc., but it seems these kind of operations are becoming a bit more common.


I really think this is the case. I have been interested in organic and unusual foods for many years but it seems like only recently that they are closing in on the mainstream market. I saw an article last week where apparently Cheerio's is coming out with a non-GMO version. There has to be some consumer pressure being applied there.
Quoted from ginnyTN


With all of the helpful suggestions here I feel confident that I'll find what I need "somewhere" - hopefully within the next week or two.  


I think it is worth keeping an eye open for new food outlets or new products appearing in regular food outlets. Also if you meet anyone who is into organic or health foods don't be afraid to pick their brains a little for sources. Things are getting slowly better for good inovation.






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Quoted from ginnyTN


There is also a certified organic farm in our area that raises lamb but their prices are terribly high...

Until then I might have to pay an arm and a leg for some goat meat.  The shipping is more expensive than the meat!!!




The shipping is outrageous because of the packaging and costing out the occasional returns due to spoilage.

And yes, pasture raised organic is expensive. Factory farming has a lot of cost advantages up and down the production line. But the true and rather high costs of it are passed on to us in many indirect or hidden ways beyond the product itself.

In a good way though, it kind of forces us to view our food choices much as in the past, when budget was a big factor in what and how much we ate.


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Just plucked this website from PCUK's turkey bacon thread.

http://www.eatwild.com/products/index.html

A guide to finding good, local meat.
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Quoted from Averno

All of the above mentioned meat sources look good, but first do a search for something local. I just googled "Maryland pasture raised beef" and found a source that I can actually drive to. Saves $$$ shipping and supports a local farmer. A little sleuthing will be necessary to insure organic, etc., but it seems these kind of operations are becoming a bit more common.



I did the same earlier and found on in a town close to us. (Marshall) They have bison, venison, beef grass feed, no med. cuts. No prices listed, but their website says your welcome to come visit.


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I also followed the link to the eat wild site and found lots of farms in TN - some of which are within our limited driving distance.  Driving is limited due to my husband's bad knee and my back problems.  

What I need is one farm that has both goat and lamb in packages because I can't buy a whole animal due to limited freezer space.  And I have absolutely NO room anywhere in house or garage for another freezer!

Progress is being made.  Even without the red meat I'm feeling better already.  


6 years on ER BTD, went from sick and dying to healthier And 30 pounds slimmer.  

Dec 2013: Started Swami Xpress - I'm 48% Explorer with hybridized Explorer/BTD list. A new adventure for this old lady!  -- LOST 5 more pounds on SWAMI! 
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Good, Ginny!  Keep on persisting and you will develop the support system for the good foods you need.  

For a couple of years, I drove an hour round trip once a week to buy eggs from pasture-raised hens and fresh goat milk from also pastured animals.  The quality of products you can find at local farms is far superior to grocery store packaged foods.  It's worth the effort.  Even if I end up spending a little more for the foods I eat, I'm suffering a lot less and rarely sick - so there's no doubt which I will choose.  



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MEAT IS HERE - HAVE EATEN FIRST MEAL OF GOAT!!!!

Thanks to the recommendation from BattleDwarf - I placed an order with Blackwing.com for goat and lamb.  It took a while to be shipped because I caught them in the middle of the Christmas-New Year weeks when they couldn't ship on their normal days and they had a lot of catch-up to do.  However, the order arrived yesterday in excellent condition!

I put a package of goat shoulder steaks in the refrigerator to thaw and got up this morning to cut them into pieces and marinate them for a curried stew.

Other than the fact that it's been so long since I've cooked red meat and I didn't let the goat cook long enought to become "meltingly tender", the stew was absolutely delicious.  

It tasted very much like lamb, but that could be because I used all the same herbs and spices that I used to use in Moroccan lamb stew - except for cinnamon which is currently a black dot for me.  

SO - we now have our red meat for at least a few weeks.  I don't know if I can actually eat three meals of it every week, but will do what works out.  We can't eat "ALL" of anything else on my food list either except for vegetable proteins and I'd really like more of those (mostly because that is what I've been eating the most of for 6 years on ER nonnie standard diet)...

ALSO - I now have a list of all of the farms within reasonable driving distance of where we live in TN that have goat and lamb and will be contacting them to see if I can buy meat more locally in the future.

THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HAVE POSTED HELPFUL SUGGESTIONS FOR ME AS I EMBARKED ON MY NEW SWAMI Xpress PLAN!!!


  


6 years on ER BTD, went from sick and dying to healthier And 30 pounds slimmer.  

Dec 2013: Started Swami Xpress - I'm 48% Explorer with hybridized Explorer/BTD list. A new adventure for this old lady!  -- LOST 5 more pounds on SWAMI! 
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Great news, Ginny!

You don't 'have to' eat red meat 3 x week at this time.  Especially if you haven't eaten red meat in a while, you are free to start out a a modest pace and get your footing.  

I suspect that as your body begins to assimilate foods that it needs, you may start really relishing those goat or lamb meals!  



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