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Enobattar
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How am I as an A non secretor / Teacher hurting myself by consuming consistently way over the 1/2 t. limit?

I'm hoping knowing what harm it is causing me will help me get serious about following my SWAMI guidelines of no more than four servings per week which also includes cheese and milk.

Thanks for any responses.  


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I'm not careful about servings of fat or ghee, but then I'm an O, not an A.

Most of the time, over-eating beneficial foods can lead to weight gain or lack of weight loss, but no damage to health or energy levels, so long as you're not "under-eating" another food group as a result.

I have definitely seen (from non-BTD sources) cases where various different kinds of health problems were healed with very high quantities of ghee- sometimes as much as a quarter cup per day! I don't know if those were short-term "adding ghee as medicine" or long-term dietary changes.

It is possible that you may have trouble digesting that quantity of fat, and it might lead to unhealthy blood lipids (cholesterol, etc.)


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I sort of agree with Lola that it's up to you how to handle this.  Sometimes I know I'm getting more evoo than SWAMI recommends but I too have a 1/2 tsp of ghee listed as a portion on my SWAMI but I rarely eat much of it because the quantity isn't really usable.

I would gladly trade you my ghee for your evoo...OK?  


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I would gladly trade you my ghee for your evoo...OK?  


Wouldn't it be fun if we lived in never-never land and really could trade things with each other?  I'd trade my beneficial black eyed peas off in a minute!!!!




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Wouldn't it be fun if we lived in never-never land and really could trade things with each other?  I'd trade my beneficial black eyed peas off in a minute!!!!




ha ha!!!     

We love ghee and hubby eats as much as he wants even though he has a restriction!  I am only supposed to eat 1/4 tsp every few days. AND BELIEVE ME.. I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT!    But I don't worry about it  when it comes to any ghee/butter I've used in recipes.  And as well... some mornings, (this is becoming rarer and rarer as I've learned that I'm not liking how ANY grain is affecting me), I have ghee on some compliant non-gluten toast.. because I LOVE a piece of toast with ghee and jam.  

So my Swami suggestion of ghee gets stretched here and there but I don't worry too much about it...    
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No food acts on its own make sure you eat enough veggies and enjoy your Ghee--

  


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Wouldn't it be fun if we lived in never-never land and really could trade things with each other?  I'd trade my beneficial black eyed peas off in a minute!!!!




In fantasyland, we can trade whatever we like....after all, are we really all sitting in the same
room right now? Or just reading words we believe a person has written?  Wouldn't it be outrageous if our entire cyber experience wasn't even real?  

OK, off to yoga....that's real to me!  

PS...I don't like black eyed peas either.

Sorry for hijacking this thread...sometimes you just gotta do things like this!  

Back to ghee....


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On with the hijack - I don't like black eyed peas either.  I primarily use ghee to make scrambled eggs in the morning.  I don't actually measure it but I'm sure it's a little more than 1/2 tsp.

The butyrate in ghee is good for you stomach and intestines.
Enjoy and don't worry about it.
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Speaking about ghee...I buy a cultured ghee which I use only for spreading on cooked foods...
Uncultured ghee I cook with.

http://www.pureindianfoods.com.....vtqLsCFUho7AodVhMASQ

Yes, it's expensive, but,yes it's a large jar and it takes me a long time to use it up. It appealed to me
because it's cultured.  And I wouldn't have a clue how to make cultured ghee at home.


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Speaking about ghee...I buy a cultured ghee which I use only for spreading on cooked foods...
Uncultured ghee I cook with.

http://www.pureindianfoods.com.....vtqLsCFUho7AodVhMASQ

Yes, it's expensive, but,yes it's a large jar and it takes me a long time to use it up. It appealed to me
because it's cultured.  And I wouldn't have a clue how to make cultured ghee at home.


What's the diff Chloe?
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What's the diff Chloe?


it's a subtle difference and I don't do well with dairy and neither does my
husband so I started spreading this cultured ghee on toast....and then veggies.  Basically lactose
is converted to lactic acid which makes it easier for people to digest it if they have difficulty
digesting lactose.  Also, the flavor of cultured ghee is awesome. BUt still, it doesn't contain any
probiotics as would be found in cultured vegetables or dairy products. Supposedly this product also
contains no casein, the protein found in dairy.  My SWAMI lists casein as a toxin.

Why Cultured Ghee?
Milk contains lactose, a natural sugar which gives it that delicate sweet taste. In order for the body to breakdown lactose into its basic components of simple sugars called glucose and galactose, an enzyme called lactase must be present. Many people lack this valuable enzyme in their digestive system causing a common digestive problem known as lactose intolerance. In order to metabolize lactose, lactase must always be present. During the culturing process of milk or cream, lactose is converted into lactic acid. This makes for a much more digestible product for many people. Remember, generally ghee does not cause a problem with lactose intolerance. This is because during the ghee making process, the lactose is removed even if the butter used to make the ghee was not made from cultured cream.




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Hi Chloe, I sometimes make my ghee from cultured butter.  I don't notice any difference either in taste or reactions.

I've always assumed that the process of making the ghee would destroy the cultures, so I buy the cultured butter only if it's cheaper than the uncultured variety (or if I can find no other organic butter.)


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Oh, and just to stay on topic, I don't pay attention to portion sizes.  I might use as much as a tablespoon of ghee just to make my open-faced omelet.  Or I might eat a whole tablespoon spread on several rice crackers.  I add it to my tea (or another hot, stimulating beverage that I won't mention) as an infusion.  I couldn't image limiting myself to the portions that folks have mentioned in this thread.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Well, thanks everyone for chiming in.  But there still must be a reason Dr. D. Gave the restriction.  I appear to be able to tolerate it and my cholesterol levels are all good.  Won't  obsess over it but still wonder.  


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Cardiovascular effects in the A diet and too much oil


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I do like ghee, but will see how I go as feel it is affecting my pancreas or liver, and I did not enjoy it much last night with my Indian style daal soup.  I did have olive oil today on my salad and a green olive into the salad with a little avocado.
I feel I get enough fat as had flax seeds, some almonds and pine nuts this morning, and some amaranth which I think has some fat in it. And I will have some nuts for a snack this afternoon.  Tonight I will make a raw blended soup garnished with fresh coriander (cilantro) and a little lemon juice which I'm looking forward to as haven't made one since the beginning of the year. I sometimes love the real flavours of raw food as I don't need spices, salt or vinegar for flavour at all.
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I also had elevated cholesterol readings a few months ago, so am concerned about animal fat levels, for me, it is also about improving liver and pancreas/gall bladder function. Ghee would be hard to let go of completely, so will still have a little depending on how I feel and how I go.
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I consume it daily, mostly at one meal with rice. I have not noticed any issues. I usually take one Tb spoon at one meal. I suspect that it burns fat quick in some people too and helps reduce weight.



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Cardiovascular effects in the A diet and too much oil


O.k.  Cardiovascular.... Meaning cholesterol levels?  Don't understand the 'too much oil' comment.  


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Meaning, for type A individuals, eating more fat/oil than is right for their bodies can result in high cholesterol and general "unhealthy heart and blood vessels."


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