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DoS
Monday, December 2, 2013, 2:42am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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It's useful to describe the type of reactions to foods.

Not all reactions are bad or good, the way we'd like to perceive them.
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cajun
Monday, December 2, 2013, 8:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Just want to clarify that when I ran my swami, the only data that I changed was my ancestry! Everything else, all personal and health information was exactly the same!
Results; If I am a teacher( southern European) it is by 39%. If I am an explorer
( western European) it is by 38%.
I just ordered a kit from "23 & Me" today so, hopefully, I will be able to give my swami more input and possibly sway more to one side.


 Ao  ISFJ   Taster   Rh+  

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JJR
Sunday, December 29, 2013, 12:09am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

33% Nomad, calories calories!!!!!!
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I also disagree with the premise that we aren't a blend.  I think us AB's are especially susceptible to being a "blend".  Due to the fact that our possibilities have one more added to them.  And DOS, your argument sounds like it's arguing with itself.  How can you say that we have all these genetics and characteristics, yet it only falls into one category?  Those differences that we all have may fall into a different genotype.  My swami tells me I'm a Nomad.  And I have it filled out as best I can.  Yet I know I have the detox system of an Explorer.  I could prove that with my genetic testing.  And then I also LOOK like a teacher.  Well, my physical characteristics fall into teacher territory.  When I do all my measurements like the books shows, I'm a teacher.  If I never went any further, that's how I would understand myself to be.  But my swami has had me as all 3 at one point or another.  And I think they all worked to a degree.  

I've read the book several times in the past and can identify issues, traits and characteristics of more than one genotype.  If we are a unique person, we're not just going to be under one umbrella of a genotype.  At least that's how I see it.  I could be wrong.  But this is how I've come to understand it.  You are entitled to your belief though.  I just don't agree.  

As far as helping the OP's friend, I have no clue.  It's hard to argue with feeling better.  I guess you can only hope that pork isn't the main meat she eats.  But if there is one issue that I've liked to sound off about, it's this premise that gets perpetuated that A's and AB's should NEVER eat red meat.  My swami tells me different.  


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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If i run swami with a change (heritage or slight taster) i swap to all possible A genotypes.  I thought teacher suited my personality, sinewy tendons & i have never been overweight, i love moderate exercise, am strong for my size & am average height. I "need" fish in my diet weekly.
I have explorer traits too in the chemical & environmental sensitivities (half a dose of dental anaesthic lasts twice as long as most people) but am very symmetric.  
If i run as a non taster i am a warrior which I do prefer to be vegetatian most of the time, have the egg head but am average size, my biggest complaint is the visible veins in my legs which is a family curse (no heart disease thankfully, and diabetes type 2 runs in the family but only for teo who of those who overeat & don't exercise)

A question for DoS or anyone else who may have experienced the same, when I do the taster strips i can't taste either prop or ptc however half an hour later i get the worst taste in my mouth which lasts hours, i rinse, eat etc but it stays.  I have tried many times.  What do you make of this?  slight taster or non?
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JJR
Monday, December 30, 2013, 4:53pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

33% Nomad, calories calories!!!!!!
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That's weird how it is delayed.  Interesting.


The poster formerly known as "ABNOWAY"

"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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I suggest making a new thread with "help interpreting taster status" in the title. It's more likely to be found by somebody knowledgeable than when your question is hidden in a bigger thread. It will also make it easier for others with similar questions to find the information.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Thanks for all the replies folks-- not on line very much these last few weeks... hoping more folks wll weigh in but ths has been very helpful...
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I'm. Not going to argue on "mixing" because I am siding with Dr D, you are or are not. Just because some super simple software appears finicky doesn't mean your genes are. This is like Meyer-Briggs. I may be INFJ but all the input information makes me a different INFJ that all other INFJ's. I'm not the same warrior as any other, I can be sensitive to enviroment  factors like an Explorer, but while an explorer and I could benefit from foods that help with it, for one of us it could be a fix and the other just some relief. In fact my sensitivities aren't remotely fixed by explorer things. I'm not part explorer, I just share some symptoms. That's the interesting thing, people share symptoms but not that much causation, and much much less solutions.

If the software didn't have percentages I doubt we'd be having this discussion. People would just be trying to get clarification.

I spent way too long bouncing on Genotypes because of "mixing qualities" and all that does is make you sicker. You got to stick with your Genotype, and work within it's principles because that'll heal. Everything else is very band-aid like.
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Quoted from SquarePeg
I disagree entirely with the "you are or you are not."  In GTD, there only six types, but SWAMI works within a spectrum, and people most definitely are blends of genotypes.


Absolutely!!!

I just did my Swami and it shows I am 44% Explorer.  That is NOT "you are or you are not" by any stretch.  My food list specifies that it is a combination of Explorer GT plus BTD - and with few exceptions I really LIKE IT!

Yes, I have to make changes.  Yes, I have to be creative with replacing some things that I've been eating and finding new beneficials that taste/feel as good to me - but by and large I am quite happy with my COMBINATION SWAMI report.  



6 years on ER BTD, went from sick and dying to healthier And 30 pounds slimmer.  

Dec 2013: Started Swami Xpress - I'm 48% Explorer with hybridized Explorer/BTD list. A new adventure for this old lady!  -- LOST 5 more pounds on SWAMI! 
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33% Nomad, calories calories!!!!!!
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Quoted from DoS
I'm. Not going to argue on "mixing" because I am siding with Dr D, you are or are not. Just because some super simple software appears finicky doesn't mean your genes are. This is like Meyer-Briggs. I may be INFJ but all the input information makes me a different INFJ that all other INFJ's. I'm not the same warrior as any other, I can be sensitive to enviroment  factors like an Explorer, but while an explorer and I could benefit from foods that help with it, for one of us it could be a fix and the other just some relief. In fact my sensitivities aren't remotely fixed by explorer things. I'm not part explorer, I just share some symptoms. That's the interesting thing, people share symptoms but not that much causation, and much much less solutions.

If the software didn't have percentages I doubt we'd be having this discussion. People would just be trying to get clarification.

I spent way too long bouncing on Genotypes because of "mixing qualities" and all that does is make you sicker. You got to stick with your Genotype, and work within it's principles because that'll heal. Everything else is very band-aid like.


Well, you're probably right.  I will say this, when my swami went from explorer to Nomad, the changes in the list was not all that drastic.  A few foods here and there.  I bet it was less than a dozen total.  Don't completely remember.  And even at that, some might have went to superfood to neutral.  Not necessarily good to bad.

I'm not quite as sold on how "perfect" one list is over the other as you are.  It's still just a program.  It's not going to be perfect no matter how good you fill it out.  But as I said before, it's probably a whole lot better than any other diet out there.  


The poster formerly known as "ABNOWAY"

"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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Rh+ GT 4...E/..INTJ ....prop.=non-taster..
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JJR welcome back... and yep...as mentioned in lr4yt... we share some attitudes of A's and B's sides... not easy to detect when is appearing .......


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