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Xuxuzinha
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Hello everybody!

I thought I had already posted about this but a search came back unconclusive, so I'll have to pester you again  

How have you done your washout periods? Were you 100% compliant? If not, do you start over from the moment you cheated?

I'd like to follow Swami full on, but with Christmas coming, I know I won't be able to be compliant for 2 months.

I know I should just try to eat as compliant as possible, and if I cheat once or twice, it's still better than keeping eating avoids.
But in my head, I'm like "why bother?"...

Anyway, if as many of you as possible could just answer this question, that would be fabulous:

"How compliant were you during your washout period"?

Thank youuuuuuuuuu!
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I was 100% compliant for the first several months. I honestly can't remember if I had "pears and agave" instead of "apples and honey" (both outright avoids) my first Rosh Hashonna on SWAMI, but I might have done so. I now eat the traditional foods (in very small amounts) and don't worry about it.

Do the best you can. It's ridiculous to "not even start on SWAMI because the holidays are coming up" when you could be eating compliantly 90% of the time, minus a few planned holiday treats. Your body may heal more slowly if you include a few avoids (such as ONE cookie when your co-worker brings in a plate of home-baked goodies) but you'll be far better off than if you don't make dietary improvements.

You can also start on SWAMI, but consider the "black dots" to be neutral for now. This will greatly broaden your food options. Then you can do the official wash-out period in January and February. No, this is not the way Dr D intends the SWAMI to be used, but it is a valid way of using it. Remember that the "black dot" foods are not quite as bad for you as the outright avoids. Some of them may act as neutrals in your body, while others you may not be able to tolerate at all, and most of them are probably fine if you eat them a couple times a year but avoid the rest of the time. Still, including the black dots  for now, as a way to ease into SWAMI, just means that healing might be a bit slower than if you avoided them carefully.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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How have you done your washout periods? Were you 100% compliant? If not, do you start over from the moment you cheated?

I always attempt to eat only beneficial foods, but usually add in some neutral, but only avoids or black dots as minor additives in dishes out.  My SWAMI has enough beneficial foods that are readily available that I can do this.  DD has very limited beneficial foods, so has to eat more neutral foods, but still attempts to not eat black dot or avoids.  Part of the reason we do this is we are still healing, so want to continue to eat as "cleanly" as possible to maintain the beneficial processes.


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Xuxuzinha
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It's ridiculous to "not even start on SWAMI because the holidays are coming up" when you could be eating compliantly 90% of the time, minus a few planned holiday treats.


I know you're right, but somehow I always seem to sabotage myself....
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I know you're right, but somehow I always seem to sabotage myself....

Start fresh with the next meal/snack/bite...


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I was about 99% compliant for the first few months...and generally I don't stray too far from focusing
on my beneficials above all else.  A toxin here or there isn't a calamity...and nobody should put
extreme pressure on themselves to be perfect or feel like a failure when celebrating during the
holidays.

I think doing the best you can right now and not waiting for a future starting date makes more sense.

Beneficial foods are healing foods.  Make a list of them when you shop and try and incorporate as
many as you can.. You can always decide to ramp up your compliance when it's more convenient....

Right now, just give yourself permission to do the very best you can without any guilt tripping.

Good, better, best....Even 70% compliancy is better than 0%


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I agree with those above. Start now and just do your best!
I was 100% compliant during the first 10 weeks of a planned 3 month wash out period.
My first cheat was 2 bites of a croissant that sent my stomach aching with pain within 1/2 hour!!! I was 100% for the remainder...2 more weeks. It was sooooo worth it!
I had hoped to lose a bit of weight but really was looking to heal from sinus issues.
Not only did weight start falling off, easily, but I felt so much better in every way!
After 2 1/2 years, I am only up a few pounds, but it is because I haven't been 100% compliant! I am generally 90% on a daily basis.(No avoids)


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All good answers.

Here is my motto:  If I'm going to eat something with an avoid ingredient, it has to be very tasty.

However, I have an exception to this rule, I don't eat anything with dairy nor tomatoes in it no matter how tasty.  That is because these 2 items make me feel lousy the next day.  I'm tired, have brain fog, my muscles ache.

And if I eat anything with avoid, I eat a little bit of it, not a plateful.  Just to get a taste.  
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Quoted from Xuxuzinha
Hello everybody!

I thought I had already posted about this but a search came back unconclusive, so I'll have to pester you again  

How have you done your washout periods? Were you 100% compliant? If not, do you start over from the moment you cheated?

I'd like to follow Swami full on, but with Christmas coming, I know I won't be able to be compliant for 2 months.

I know I should just try to eat as compliant as possible, and if I cheat once or twice, it's still better than keeping eating avoids.
But in my head, I'm like "why bother?"...

Anyway, if as many of you as possible could just answer this question, that would be fabulous:

"How compliant were you during your washout period"?

Thank youuuuuuuuuu!


I'll eat off both the beneficial and the neutral lists, but I'm only not compliant by accident.  Being a raw-foodist for so many years gave me a good foundation for turning down foods and saying "no" at parties and family events.  There are so many dishes that my switch to BDT opened up that I feel like I can eat SO MUCH MORE than I could before.  I never cheat because I feel so free.


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Xuxuzinha
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I'm a all or nothing type of person. I need to commit to something 100%, so I know it'll be difficult to stick to it, I'd rather "enjoy" the time I have before I need to start what I see as "deprivation".

So I guess I'll have to be compliant-ish till after the holidays and start seriously in January (despite my hubby's bday and mine....).

I wish I'd see drastic health improvements that would really motivate me, but in the two months I once managed to be 99% compliant, I didn't feel any change....
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Quoted from Xuxuzinha
I wish I'd see drastic health improvements that would really motivate me, but in the two months I once managed to be 99% compliant, I didn't feel any change....

Are you following the book Explorer diet?

If so, you would probably benefit greatly from SWAMI.  I feel the book diet is overly restricted because all 4 blood types can be an Explorer, so the major lectin problem foods for all 4 types need to be accounted for...  

However, you personally may need a very restricted diet to function well.  

Or you are functioning well and should look for something else to worry about...


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Quoted from ABJoe

Are you following the book Explorer diet?
  

No, I'm on SWAMI.

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Or you are functioning well and should look for something else to worry about...


Ha ha, I wish... I wouldn't mind loosing my belly, tension headaches, runny nose, keep my acne from coming back and get rid of those tensions in my traps...

Anyway, the problem is not so much that I won't ever be able to do the diet, but rather that I'm struggling getting passed the washout period, as in my head it has to be 100% compliant.
I know that once I'm settled in the diet, it won't kill me to have avoids if it's difficult to, well, avoid them, but sinde Dr D. says 2 months wash out, I feel like I have to start over whenever I do have avoids.
And since I have to start over anyway, I gorge on avoids one "last" time...

You all had really good points, but in my head, a not 100% compliant wash out period is worthless...

I always feel invigorated by your posts, but as soon as I'm seeing sweets, I'll eat them....

Like now, my intention is to indulge all week end and start over on Monday...

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You really sound like you'd like to be able to give yourself permission to begin the diet after the holidays.  And that's just fine.  It's already the middle of November...and you've got about another
6 weeks to just eat any foods you like.  If you don't mind your symptoms and you're someone who
feels better giving a new start 100% of your attention, then go for it! I think most people would support your desire to make yourself happy during the holidays!    Return when Monday starts...or if you like after the holidays are over and let us help you with your diet when you feel completely ready...OK?


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Oh Chloe, you're such a star!!!! It's true that the only time I managed to go through 8 weeks compliant was when no celebrations of any sort were planned.

However I'm a bit scared that I'll always use any excuse (like my birthday in January for example...)

It's the same as when I used to try numerous diets to lose weight and always ended gorging on the "fattening" food, because I felt miserable to be deprived of any food type. I know that this diet is going to heal me, but in my head it just feels like a slimming diet...
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It's really up to you. Do you want to "start feeling better now" or do you want to wait to start and then "do it perfectly when I finally do it"? That's something only you can decide.

SWAMI is a tool, as are the books Dr D wrote and this message board itself. It's up to you to use these tools, or not, in a way that works for you.

Dr D suggests that SWAMI be used in one specific way: to completely avoid the "avoids" forever, and to completely avoid the "black dots" for 60 days, then carefully re-introduce the black dots one at a time. But that's not the only way SWAMI can be used.

You can also minimize the "avoid" foods, try to emphasize the "beneficials" and eat freely from the neutrals and black dots. Or you can try to eat beneficials and geno-harmonic combos as often as possible, and try to limit the black dots and avoids, but not actually "avoid" either of them completely. Say, a breakfast of superfoods followed by a catered lunch full of avoids, eaten without any guilt, and then a dinner party where you eat what the hostess serves and simply don't worry about it.

Or you could put it all on hold until January,  but then you have to live with the symptoms of "eating wrong for your type" in the meantime.

Remember that you're in control of your body, and nobody can decide this for you.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I wouldn't mind loosing my belly, tension headaches, runny nose, keep my acne from coming back and get rid of those tensions in my traps...

You all had really good points, but in my head, a not 100% compliant wash out period is worthless...

I always feel invigorated by your posts, but as soon as I'm seeing sweets, I'll eat them....

Like now, my intention is to indulge all week end and start over on Monday...

Only you can decide when the symptoms are enough so you make the decision that the right time to start is now.  Like Chloe and Ruth say, it'll be here when you are ready.


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Quoted from Xuxuzinha


Anyway, the problem is not so much that I won't ever be able to do the diet, but rather that I'm struggling getting passed the washout period, as in my head it has to be 100% compliant.

...I feel like I have to start over whenever I do have avoids.
And since I have to start over anyway, I gorge on avoids one "last" time...

...in my head, a not 100% compliant wash out period is worthless...

I always feel invigorated by your posts, but as soon as I'm seeing sweets, I'll eat them....

Like now, my intention is to indulge all week end and start over on Monday...



Anything moving in the right direction is better than nothing. By being more aware of how you're gaining ground and less conflicted about where you've lapsed, you'll develop a stronger sense of value towards the positive changes that your body is feeling. Really crying out for. The "sacrifice" will feel more like "winning".

Good luck, and more importantly, good intentions.


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I found that I didn't see any improvements until I added in some of Dr D's supplements. I think it is because my gut was so badly damaged that I wasn't assimilating the nutrients from the foods I was eating, even though I was eating so well. Maybe you could look into some of the supps, the ones that I found helped were the deflect, polflora (blood type specific), activator and catylyst for my blood type and genotype. The deflect could be quite helpful around the holiday period as it will help counteract some of the avoids. When our bodies are so damaged from years of avoids I think we need supps to help us get the healing process started. Good luck
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I observed that it depends of the *detoxing capacities* of the bodies of my clients...
between 6 weeks and months....to sustain I'm also recommending humic acid to accelerate the process ...(also in cases of leaky guts!!!)


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Only you can decide when the symptoms are enough so you make the decision that the right time to start is now.  Like Chloe and Ruth say, it'll be here when you are ready.


The thing is that these symptoms are not so bad that I can't bear them anymore, so that the non-compliancy is not too much of a problem...
Funnily enough, now that I'm not being compliant (for financial reasons as well), I miss following the diet!! I miss the discipline about it, the feeling of doing something good for my body... I can't wait to start again...


But the deflect is a wonderful idea for occasions where you can't much avoid the avoids... I just can't afford it right now.
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The thing is that these symptoms are not so bad that I can't bear them anymore, so that the non-compliancy is not too much of a problem...
Funnily enough, now that I'm not being compliant (for financial reasons as well), I miss following the diet!! I miss the discipline about it, the feeling of doing something good for my body... I can't wait to start again...


But the deflect is a wonderful idea for occasions where you can't much avoid the avoids... I just can't afford it right now.


Why not be as compliant as you can, just to reap the benefits of healing things that you weren't aware were out of kilter?  At the very least to prevent symptoms from reoccurring. They only get worse over time.

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