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Tahnastasia
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Hi there Swami friends!

I'm an Aussie who just bought her Swami and I am very excited to get going! I'm someone who likes to do things thoroughly, so I'm going to get all the tests available so I can fill in as many of the fields as possible... I will also try to find a Swami Pracitioner somewhere in this country to get an even more precise printout, but for now am using Swami Xpress.

I have 2 quick questions for you guys:

(1) One of my main health problems I'm wanting to fix with Swami is severe period cramps (Dysmenorrhea). I don't have heavy periods or get the emotional PMS symptoms. I just get really bad cramps that wipe me out every month.

In the Women's Health section, it asks if you "have a history of heavy menses/ menorrhagia" or "have a history of premenstrual syndrome". I'm wondering if I should tick either of these two fields, even though I don't have heavy bleeding or emotional PMS, or if there is somewhere else on the form that I will be able to let Swami know about this problem.

(2) My other major health problem is chronic pain, otherwise known as fibromyalgia, which I've been struggling with for many years. I don't have any joint pain, it has always been pain and stiffness in the fascia/muscles.

I'm not sure where to enter this information in Swami. Would it come under "arthritis/JointPain" or "chronic fatigue" or maybe "autoimmune problems?" Hmmmm...


Any thoughts? You wisdom and experience would be much appreciated here!

Thanks so much!
Tahastasia xx  
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If you put in your blood type and just the basic information into SWAMI and get the initial printout to follow to get started, you'll be helping the body start healing...  Just the basic blood type diet will help with both of those problems, while getting more individualized may speed the healing...


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Quoted from ABJoe
If you put in your blood type and just the basic information into SWAMI and get the initial printout to follow to get started, you'll be helping the body start healing...  Just the basic blood type diet will help with both of those problems, while getting more individualized may speed the healing...


Thanks Joe, I'm definitely going to print out my Swami as is and get started, as soon as I've finished doing my genotype measurements.

But I'd really like to do this process as thoroughly as possible, as that is how I have already improved my health dramatically over the years, by doing lots of research and really throwing myself 100% into things. I've been deep into nutrition and alternative health approaches for two decades, so I'm ready to fly with this straight away. I guess it's just my personality type!

So it would be wonderful if anybody has any thoughts about how to specify period pain and fibromyalgia in the Swami fields.

Cheers,
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Hello fellow A+ aussie!!!  
PMS can include physical symptoms so i would tick that box.  Mag phos tissue salts (homoeopathically prepared) may help with both issues & being compliant will reduce inflammation & pain over time (use genoharmonic blends if you can)
I see you are in byron, i will be holidaying at evans head in a few weeks time, i hope the weather is nice!  (it's probably always better than Melbourne anyway)
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Hello fellow A+ aussie!!!  
PMS can include physical symptoms so i would tick that box.  Mag phos tissue salts (homoeopathically prepared) may help with both issues & being compliant will reduce inflammation & pain over time (use genoharmonic blends if you can)
I see you are in byron, i will be holidaying at evans head in a few weeks time, i hope the weather is nice!  (it's probably always better than Melbourne anyway)


Ooh Serenity, another A+ Aussie! explains why we are both awake right now to see this post!

I spent my whole life in Melbourne - only moved up here to this area a year ago. Am loving it! Yesss the weather is divine...

Thanks for the advice - I will definitely look into those supplements. The herbal shops up here are amazing, so I'll go talk to them about the homeopathic mag phos.

Have you been suing Swami for a while? How has it helped you? I only recently found out I was A+ - for years I had thought I was AB and had been following the AB diet! Had never been able to force myself to eat the AB meats though, so this A diet feel soooooo much better to me...

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Yes, I started with swami almost three years ago I think.  I didn't have any real health issues to work on (i found about about the diet while doing nutrition course at college)but it made so much sense to me we decided to try it for a month & after a week we decided it was perfect for us!  (husband is an O+ explorer)
I typed as a teacher in the genotype book but swami typed as a warrior
I have times when i crave fish but now am going through a vegetarian phase.
What genotype are you?
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Am not sure yet coz I'm waiting for my Genotype kit to arrive. Should be here today or tomorrow. Yay!

My man is also an 0 and from reading the genotype descriptions I'm pretty sure he's an explorer. But we'll find out for sure soon!

Do you guys eat the same meals, with foods that suit both of you included? Or do you have to eat separately?

xx
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try this video to help with your measurements

http://www.youtube.com/v/x3_5ZM7F5Y4?fs=1&autoplay=1&rel=0

also take a look at the online protocols

bt/gt guidelines are anti inflammatory by excellence, so will be very helpful to manage your pain


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Everyone who uses this has a great effect I like the drops.

http://health.howstuffworks.co.....-herbal-remedies.htm


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Quoted from Tahnastasia
Do you guys eat the same meals, with foods that suit both of you included? Or do you have to eat separately?

There are some meals we eat the same foods and some we eat different foods.  It depends on who needs what from their portions for the week...

We compared our food lists and get in as many Beneficial foods as possible, then add in Neutral foods...


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"Do you guys eat the same meals, with foods that suit both of you included? Or do you have to eat separately?"

Lots of veggies are the same for all of us (sons are A+ too) but i just make things like sweet potato or chop tomatoes & keep separately for my O.  I cook fish & occasionally turkey for all of us, lamb for explorer son & hubby, chicken for teacher son & hubby & i have tofu a lot for dinners.  Eggs sit well for all of us so they are weekend lunch gourmet omlets.  Veggie soups are great but i cook a separate serve of mince or something to add to hubby's.
We have never eaten pre-made foods so we just had to change a few little things.  Enjoy!
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Wow Joe and Serena, you guys are super organised with your family mealplans! I am very inspired!!

My genotype kit arrived this arvo, amazingly, so I am measuring DH as we speak!

(Have you noticed that we ENFPs use a lot of exclamation marks?   )

xx
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I am an INFJ & sometimes over-do the exclamation marks too!  Must be the NF
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Hi here again,

Am wondering if any of you guys just waking up in the Northern Hemisphere have any thoughts on what fields I should tick in my new Swami to indicate my period pain and fibromyalgia?

Right, am off to bed now!
xx
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ticking boxes will help over the long term but somethings actually need deeper fixing.

So an infared sauna for the FM along with the membrosia cocktail for cellular health and some cramp bark for the cramps.


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I would definitely tick the "PMS" box for the period pain, and possibly also the "heavy menses" box as well. Maybe run it all 3 ways (one box ticked, then the other, then both) and see if there are any differences in the final food lists. Something is "unbalanced" about your female hormones, and those are the boxes that deal with that aspect of your health. The fact that your specific symptoms differ from the phrasing on the SWAMI intake form is irrelevant.

Andrea- which boxes did you tick on my SWAMI to account for fibromyalgia?


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magnesium


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I would definitely tick the "PMS" box for the period pain, and possibly also the "heavy menses" box as well. Maybe run it all 3 ways (one box ticked, then the other, then both) and see if there are any differences in the final food lists. Something is "unbalanced" about your female hormones, and those are the boxes that deal with that aspect of your health. The fact that your specific symptoms differ from the phrasing on the SWAMI intake form is irrelevant.

Andrea- which boxes did you tick on my SWAMI to account for fibromyalgia?


Thanks Ruthiegirl, that's a good idea re the period pain.

Wow so you've been suffering from fibromyalgia too. Have you improved since following your Swami? My chronic pain has already improved over 80% since I started doing the Feldenkrais Method - I do it every day and have for about 8 years now. It keeps my body free and my whole system very calm. But I am still hypersensitive and if I do ever overdo ANY activity, I feel ridiculously sore the next day... So I know some of the underlying FM is still going on even though I manage it so well these days with the Feldenkrais and early nights. Am hoping Swami will help me sort it out at the root cause. Fingers crossed!

I've been taking magnesium and stuff like that for years, but have never noticed much difference from it. Keeping my body free and my system calm and getting good rest have so far been the only things to ever give me relief.

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Yes, SWAMI definitely helps a lot. I'm doing better on SWAMI than I did on the BTD from the book, and MUCH better than I did on GTD (genotype diet)  by the book. But things still aren't perfect. Stress is nearly impossible to avoid as a single mom of 3. It's hard to fully respect my limits when my kids need me. Plus sometimes I'm a "bad girl" and don't follow SWAMI exactly, and then I suffer.

SWAMI has certainly found all the "food triggers" both in terms of what foods to avoid, and also which foods I need to eat plenty of. In my case, too little red meat definitely affects pain and energy levels. Since you're an A, your specific foods will be different, but the overall pattern (follow SWAMI and feel better, veer from SWAMI and feel worse) should still hold true.  There are probably more supplements I could be taking that might help, but money is tight and I can't buy absolutely everything that *might help.*

It's also very hard to find a balance with activity. Too little and I get even more sluggish. Too much and I bring on another flare. But if I don't push myself a little bit with the exercise, I won't be energized or lose any weight. It's hard to know just how much to push myself and when to take a step back.


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Wow Ruth, it sounds like you're managing it all as best an anyone possibly could! It really is a juggling act though, isn't it? Sometimes I feel like I'm walking on a tight rope. If I get everything right, then my pain levels are relaly low and life is great, but if I mess up in my sleep or stress or overdo exxercise, then it is game over for a few days...

Ahhh all I focus on is that is it MUCH better than it was 10 years ago. I was compeltely bed ridden then and in extreme pain 24/7. Now I live a very full life, and it's only when I get overconfident and forget to manage it that I have bad flare ups. So I am veyr positive about it all!

Youa re doing amazingly as a single Mum. I was always worried about having kids and dealing with this. But at 40 I am finally ready to have a child, so I guess this will be the real test of everything I've learned!
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I was definitely in worse shape 10 years ago than I am now. Part of it is the simple fact that, 10 years ago, my kids were 8, 7, and almost 2, rather than "out of the house", 17, and almost 12. I might still argue with my son about him showering, but I no longer have to bend over the bathtub and bathe him. I can go to the store and leave him home alone,  and not have to wrestle him into his carseat and shopping cart. Older kids are physically less demanding (although emotionally it's not much easier.)

I'm also in much better physical shape because I'm no longer eating all that wheat, corn, and potato, I know to supplement with magnesium, etc.


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