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Adam
Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 3:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I'm really on the fence these days about supplements.

This Teacher/Warrior thing that my SWAMI's been bouncing me back and forth has gotten me thinking about supplements.

Ok, so the dust has settled in my SWAMI upon 42% Warrior.  So, we'll go with that.

Yes, I could go see Dr. D personally to fine tune everything.  Well, we'll see about that one day perhaps.  But, I have no illnesses that require me to see him.  It would essentially be a wellness check and a lecture to lose weight.

But, in the meantime, if I'm a relatively healthy person, and I:

- avoid the foods that SWAMI tells me to avoid
- watch my portions
- exercise regularly
- drink plenty of water
- eat a variety of fruits and vegetables
- get plenty of sleep

What supplements would I really need?

The only thing really bothering me these days is digestion, which I thought the Teacher 3 pack would address.  But, if I'm really Warrior, then the Warrior 3 pack doesn't address that.  So, perhaps the Digestive Support Pack would be more appropriate for my needs?

I don't really want to be popping tons of supplements.  So, I want to narrow down what I really should focus on.  My gut is still bloated and gives me the most issues, which is why Teacher made the most sense.  So, what is good for a Warrior with digestive issues beyond just following the SWAMI diet?

To help with sleeping and stress, I have tried it all, and found that Ashwagandha addresses it the best.  When I take it at night, I sleep quite well and am very calm the next day.  It is way better than Tranq Base and Cortiguard, imo.  Holy Basil is even weaker.

So given all that, what supplements do I really need?
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There's also Healthy Stomach Support Protocol:

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/27.html

which includes adding probiotics to the mix.
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individuality is key adam....

Dr D formulates personalized BT/GT specific nutriceutics of the best kind

Let food be your medicine, the rest is up to you and your needs


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Supplements are good for filling in the gaps you can't get from food (since most food today is grown in depleted soils) or for addressing specific medical needs. A good diet can prevent problems, but may not be enough to heal old problems.

IMO, probiotics should be part of everybody's diet. Traditionally, people ate fermented foods. I try to remember to drink some beet kvass daily. My daughters eat a lot of yogurt (even though they're Os and probably shouldn't.) If you're not getting probiotics via diet, then taking polyflora A would probably be a good idea.

It may make sens for you personally to take the Teacher 3-pack even if the Warrior diet works better. Or you may do best selecting one or two (or 3) specific supplements to help you with digestion, just as you've found one single supplement that helps with sleep and stress. If the Warrior 3-pack doesn't address any issues you personally have, then don't waste your money on it.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Adam,
I can't answer what is best for you, but I decided to focus on fixing the gut, so took Deflect, Intrinsa, and Polyflora as well as using mostly ghee for cooking.  

Once my gut settled down and appeared to be digesting / moving mostly normally, I found I really could get the nutrients I needed from the beneficial foods I eat, so only need to supplement for specific focus on other issues.  Now I rarely take anything except B12 for nerve health and some Detoxical-D to support the ongoing cleaning...

Of course, you have to find a path right 4 you...


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Years ago before I started taking probiotics, I would eat a meal and not have the slightest change in the weakness, etc., that I felt. I may as well have not eaten anything. I can't imagine not taking probiotics. I have taken them for several decades - many years before the media "discovered" them.


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In one of the recent newsletter - cannot locate it - Dr. D wrote a note saying something like: "If people would realize the damages of lectins, they would order Deflect by the case"

Here's a link to "Ask Dr. D'Adamo" about "Lectin-Scrubbing with Deflect":

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2011/03/30/lectin-scrubbing-with-deflect?blog=27


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Looks like Deflect (lectin blocker), Intrinsa (gut healer), and Polyflora (probiotics) seem to be the best fit for my needs (digestion issues).
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Quoted from Adam
Looks like Deflect (lectin blocker), Intrinsa (gut healer), and Polyflora (probiotics) seem to be the best fit for my needs (digestion issues).


Those three are a reasonable core for anyone with the digestive system being their weak link.  I take Intrinsa and Polyflora daily, even after more than a decade.  That, along with ARA6, has been a great healing force for my gut.  I no longer take Deflect, but it has been 10 years since I've eaten any avoids.

Something I would suggest for you is to focus more on eating Superfoods and Diamonds.  You mentioned not eating Toxins, but you didn't say whether you are eating mostly Neutrals or Diamonds.  The Diamond foods are the most healing and the most powerful at protecting the good health we already have.  Neutrals provide nutrients and some variety, but in my opinion are more like coasting.  



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Quoted from Adam
Looks like Deflect (lectin blocker), Intrinsa (gut healer), and Polyflora (probiotics) seem to be the best fit for my needs (digestion issues).



Gastro D for three bottles I would wait to take the polyflora till the gut is better.
Kill the bad guys then introduce the good guys.
I had to take things a step further to get rid of the bugs in my gut but this works for most people.



MIFHI

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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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first I was sent from teacher to warrior to whatever you might immagine until Peter declared myselve into the explorer-category ....and yep *fuzzy explomade* fits me
heavily....

about supplements... I think with our crazy lifestyles we really do need muchmore antioxidants as a sort of prevention!!!


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Gut repair would be the first place to start because it affects so many processes. But I've been taking other supps for awhile now with remarkable results, and recently introduced Cortiguard, Nitricycle, Methyl B-12 and Phyto D. All I can say is WOW! Fixed some long suffered issues regarding energy and stress.
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Just ran my SWAMI again, now I'm Teacher again, and had it tell me everything about all suggested supplements.  The ones with the most stars were:

Teacher 3 Pack (6 stars)
Healthy Weight Loss Pack Type A (5 stars)

In the 3 pack, I get the following aids for digestion:
- Betaine (minimizes chances for bacterial overgrowth in the upper GI tract, principally the stomach and duodenum)
- Biotin (provides a balancing effect on the digestive microflora, discouraging excess fungal growth)
- Saccharomyces cerevisiae, Lactobacillus plantaru, Lactobacillus bulgaricus (these probiotics and healthy yeast strains enhance proper microbial balance in the digestive tract and help remove metabolic toxins and endproducts of excess bacterial overgrowth)

I would also be getting Deflect in the weight loss pack, and that seems to be the #1 D'Adamo Supplement.  I've never taken it before, and it sounds like an important one to take.
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What a whirlwind you are in. I think I will run my SWAMI again and see if nectarines have reappeared as a superfood!  

Well, they are the same but now SWAMI is picking on peanut butter and peanuts - they are now a neutral!! Too bad, they stay in my diet! It can't decide about snap beans - they are both superfood AND neutral!!


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Quoted from Spring
What a whirlwind you are in. I think I will run my SWAMI again and see if nectarines have reappeared as a superfood!  

Well, they are the same but now SWAMI is picking on peanut butter and peanuts - they are now a neutral!! Too bad, they stay in my diet! It can't decide about snap beans - they are both superfood AND neutral!!


Well, what I'm doing is unchecking/checking medical history and family medical history mostly.  I'm sticking with ISTJ and all my measurements.  I don't even think going to Bridgeport would even be profitable, because I wouldn't be able to commit to the answers on their questionnaire, I'd probably be erasing and redoing it constantly before turning it in, and probably would back out at the last minute because I'd be too overwhelmed and confused about it all.
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You wouldn't just be handing in your questionnaire. You'd be talking to them about exactly what your history is and why you're not sure how to enter it. They'd help you figure it out. When I had my SWAMI pro done, I was asking Andrea questions like "I had gestational diabetes when pregnant with Jack, but never *real* diabetes- do I check the diabetes box or not?" and "My aunt had breast cancer- does that count as family history?" and "My ancestors are from Russia, Romania, and Poland" and let her figure out which part of Europe I'm from.

I'm not saying you *have to* to to Bridgeport right now- I don't know how far a trip that would be for you, and it does seem like you're figuring things out by yourself well enough.  But I wanted to clarify that seeing a pro would probably help make things less confusing, not more so.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Yeah, I don't think I had some of the medical history/family history quite right before.  I'm going off what my mom told me a while back.  Anyway, these are the things in SWAMI pointing me toward 41% Teacher:

The Teacher Inventory

These are the findings which identified your GenoType as Teacher. To learn more about these tests and measurements, consult chapters 3 and 4 in The GenoType Diet book.

Calculator Points:

Torso to Leg Ratio /Characteristic of Teacher.
Your torso is longer than your legs.
Your ABO blood type (A) is characteristic of Teacher.
Secretor status is often observed in Teacher GenoType.

Strength Testing, First Pass:

GT3 Questionnaire points awarded /Characteristic of Teacher.
PROP slight taster /Characteristic of Teacher.
Tendon sinews /Characteristic of Teacher.

Strength Testing, Second Pass:

Ancestral DNA strength points /Characteristic of Teacher.
Lactose intolerance /Characteristic of Teacher.
MBI EI(I) Attitude suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Teacher.
MBI JP(J) Function suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Teacher.
MBI SN(S) Function suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Teacher.

And, the foods make a whole lot more sense than the Warrior diet.
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Plus the whole "I need to focus on gut healing which is the Teacher focus and not the Warrior focus" also leans towards Teacher.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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a bit of too much of .....for my gousto..... thanx for compromizes...


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I am trying to cut back on supplements and just eat what I is beneficial. It is exhausting to pop pills all day.

I still take polyflora, b-vitamin, multi, magnesium and calcium. I feel like if I stop taking these my health will deteriorate, but it could be psychological
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I am trying to cut back on supplements and just eat what I is beneficial. It is exhausting to pop pills all day.

I still take polyflora, b-vitamin, multi, magnesium and calcium. I feel like if I stop taking these my health will deteriorate, but it could be psychological


I hear ya.  I'm not too keen on taking pills.  Yes, I know I can open them and sprinkle them on food, or put them in a smoothie, but haven't done that yet.

I have about 2 weeks left on my Teacher 3 pack and will let that run out and see at that time what I'm going to do next with supplements.

And, ruthie, I think you're right.  My biggie is digestion, and that leads me to think I'm Teacher, too.
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It doesn't bother me in the least to take the supplements that I know help me. I do have more of a problem actually swallowing them than a lot of people. I found that taking them with apple sauce, banana or certain other foods helps tremendously.


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Adam, one question will change me from a Teacher to an Explorer when I do my own SWAMI.  
Yet, prior to my professional SWAMI, I tried the Explorer diet which felt totally wrong...My
professional SWAMI feels like an expanded BTD for A with 3 beneficial dairy foods, lots of fish,
turkey, eggs, no Explorer meats but it's plentiful in soy, plant proteins, fruits and veggies. I wasn't given Teacher supplements, so try focusing on the diet, keep it simple and only add supplements if and when you feel you have a real necessity.  I think it's difficult to become deficient in nutrients on such a comprehensive diet like SWAMI.... Try and rotate foods for optimum nutrition.  I always remind myself of the colors of foods, the different phytonutrients they contain. One evening at dinner, I looked at my plate of turkey, cauliflower and parsnips thinking to myself "this plate needs
some vivid color"......Next night, fish, carrots, kale.


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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I am trying to cut back on supplements and just eat what I is beneficial. It is exhausting to pop pills all day.

I still take polyflora, b-vitamin, multi, magnesium and calcium. I feel like if I stop taking these my health will deteriorate, but it could be psychological


Same protocol here I think this is a well balanced base and not psychological Also have Deflect on hand for every 'eat out' meal, just in case!
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Adam, swami changes me from warrior to teacher, I must be a close tie between the two.  I tried the warrior supps for two years, i don't think they did a lot for me personally, I am about to order the teacher pack to see how that goes.  
I don't have an issue with weight just my digestion is still not right I really can't go a whole week without fish which makes the teacher diet seem right to me.  Someone suggested explorer for me but i am very sinewy & definately an ectomorph but I have a longer head/jaw like a warrior, so I am a little confused right now, I wish we had professional swami practitioners here in Australia as I really think I am not getting my measurements right!
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